Jun 8, 2020 at 10:52 AM Post #22,501 of 70,118
It took me a while to figure out the model is JVC "HA-AE5T" Wireless sport headphones, and they look pretty good but they are $149...
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https://www.us.jvc.com/headphones/
https://www.us.jvc.com/headphones/wireless_for_sports/ha_ae5t/

"Ambient tips' let ambient sound through, while "isolating tips" block outside sound.

JVC does have at times a better street price right off or it certainly will drop pretty soon. I'd like $125 myself but don't blame them. They are competing with Jabra which is $180 and AT had their Sport model at $199 for the sport model. The Sony XB700 is $139 with no ambient, not the fit kit with fins and both types of tips, no aptX, 27 vs. 18 hour total battery life, no bass settings and doesn't even work with the Sony app to do stuff. At what I would expect them to list price it.

I'm sure that it what the ambient tips are for. These are for "serious" runners so I'm sure they decided to have ambient to talk through and ambient tips to help with footfall noise/bone conduction. They look good for other tips as well...
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Looks like the new tips are based on the normal and previous ones so long core but the outside is shorter so less tips fitting into case shenanigans. You can most likely even step up the isolation further from the stock tips.
 
Jun 8, 2020 at 4:11 PM Post #22,503 of 70,118
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Jun 8, 2020 at 4:34 PM Post #22,504 of 70,118
Been a while since we've heard anything about the new Klipsch TWS announced at CES but FWIW, the T5 II Sport are now listed on Amazon (release date: Aug 10):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088XXY7ZS

EDIT: the T5 II listing is also posted (same release date):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088ZPSLCV

I'm excited about the T10 (not so much the price though... :disappointed_relieved:)

It takes a lot for me to hesitate when it comes from headphones. I would trust someone like Audeze or HiFiman more for high end TWS than Klipsch. However, that's what returns are for I guess.
 
Jun 8, 2020 at 8:24 PM Post #22,505 of 70,118
Sony Sp-800n are on sale at Best Buy for $160 - just in time for father's day. I've been pretty happy with the MTW2 but we will see how they compare come Sunday.

Good luck with the fit - I could not get a seal without removing the ear hooks. But I think the sound after a day of burn-in was pretty good.
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 1:13 AM Post #22,507 of 70,118
ri
Really looking forward about your KZ Z1 impressions, especially vs GT1 plus and T1x mate

I finally got a pair of KZ Z1 last week. I found the KZ Z1 to just be ok and borderline disappointing. It doesn't sound bad, just nothing close to the Fiil T1x or Haylou GT1 Plus. My Tranya B530 sound better also. I don't find the soundstaging to be all that great and the bass vibrates a lot. I wouldn't say the bass is muddy or sloppy, but it does feel like there is a lot of movement of the driver in the earbud and I find it annoying. Some may like it. Imaging and separation are just ok and are simply not in the same class as my other 3 earbuds mentioned earlier. I do like the shape of the earbud as it fits great in my ear. It is very comfortable and the BT connection with both my laptop and Ipad were quick and rock solid. The touch controls also work great. I just wish they sounded better. One more thing, these are LOUD. You will need to turn down the volume or you'll blow your ears out. (Note: I originally ordered a pair from Linsoul and they arrived in the USA a week later. However, they never got delivered to me and I contacted Linsoul several times. When it became apparent that they were never going to arrive, Linsoul refunded me. While disappointed that I didn't receive them, Linsoul's customer service was great. They replied to each of my emails and refunded me. I ended up buying a pair on Amazon (previously unavailable) and received them a day later. If you are in the USA and buy from Linsoul, I recommend you pay the extra $12 for the express shipping, because I think the free shipping option is garbage.

A few notes on my other earbuds, Fiil T1x, Haylou GT1 Plus, and Tranya B530.

Fiil T1x - Of the 4 pairs I have, these are the best I have. They sound great in all aspects and make my feet tap and head move when I listen to music - high "Groove" factor. The KZ Z1 doesn't do that for me. The T1x are very "musical" and fun to listen to. The only negative I found with the T1x is that they weren't super comfortable and became fatiguing after wearing for awhile. I believe I may have solved this issue with getting some Auvio eartips, which seem to make them much more comfortable. The BT connection withe the T1x is quick and rock solid.

Haylou GT1 Plus. - These are so sweet and natural sounding. To me, these sound much like the Fiil T1x, but with a lot less power. The sound is kind of like a T1x, but with a much less powerful amplifier. Unlike the T1x, KZ Z1, and B530, the GT1 Plus feel super light and cheap out of the box. When I first got them, I was very unimpressed with the physical feel of the storage box and earbuds and they felt like toys. Additionally, I had to reset mine out of the box to get both the channels to work. But, once I got them to work, I was blown away from the sound. I literally could listen to these all day and these have the "groove" factor I mentioned above - they will make your feet tap and body move uncontrollably to the music. The downsides are that the BT connection is weak and I can't walk to the other side of the house like I can with the T1x. Also, I've had to reset the GT1 Plus at least 3 times and they don't always want to connect. Also, as reported by others, the volume is very low, so you will be close to max on the volume when you use these. I'm also annoyed by the sensitivity of the touch control as I find it impossible to adjust the earbud without pausing the music from the touch control. But, for $25, these are a steal.

Tranya B530 - These are overall good sound buds but they have connectivity issues with external BT transmitters and my Dell Laptop that has built in BT. When used with an external BT transmitter, it will power off after about 4.5 minutes. On my Dell Laptop, it will randomly disconnect for no reason. The B530's work fine with my Ipad and phone. I contacted Tranya about the connectivity issues I was having and I was told they do all their testing on phones, not PC's and Transmitters. So, if you are planning to use the B530's on something other than a cell phone, don't bother. I don't have the connectivity issues with my other 3 eabuds when using a transmitter or PC. Only the B530 have this issue.
 
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Jun 9, 2020 at 3:34 AM Post #22,508 of 70,118
not sure if anyone has posted impression of the QCY T4 yet, but my originally missing (tracking went cold april 3rd) QCY T4 from AE showed up in my mailbox.

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quick initial impressions is that it's not bad sounding. relatively balanced presentation. bass impact is a tad lacking for my taste. Mids are forward in the mix which i definitely like, though it has that upper mids boost like the T5 which can make higher vocals a tad shouty. detail retrieval is very meh, soundstage and separation is meh too. Think I remember T5 being a bit better in those regard. But for its price, it's still not too bad i suppose.

Volume is loud too like the T5, louder in fact. i'm using 50% on these at home only and that feels a bit loud already. But the weird thing is that when i'm below 50%, right side becomes softer than the left. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ At first i still thought channel imbalance.

App is not good at all since it requires location permission to even connect the earbuds to the app, and need to create account using phone number. Like why??

10 band EQ are user customisable and same for controls, and they stick to the earbuds. So after tweaking the settings you want, if you pair to another phone, even without app the same tweaks will be there. the EQ options are trash as far as i can tell. Manual EQ will drastically lower the overall volume for some reason and push the mids back. like just boosting the bass by a few dB the volume drops, but even if i increase the volume to a same output level the mids still sounds pushed back.

My guess is that even though default EQ shows a flat line, it's not. but when you manually tweak the EQ, like maybe boosting the bass a tad, it legit goes back to a flat EQ and lets you tune from there. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, still playing around with it.

So my hot take is that it's fine for its price tag, but the only nice thing about the app is that you can change how the controls work (like single tap to increase volume). Other than that it's not that useful, also you can't change the triple tap command. Sound quality wise I think the Haylou GT1 Plus which is similarly priced is still more capable overall, and since the rest of the features the T4 provides doesn't really work that great anyway, that would probably still be my top choice in that price bracket.
 
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Jun 9, 2020 at 5:41 AM Post #22,509 of 70,118
ri


I finally got a pair of KZ Z1 last week. I found the KZ Z1 to just be ok and borderline disappointing. It doesn't sound bad, just nothing close to the Fiil T1x or Haylou GT1 Plus. My Tranya B530 sound better also. I don't find the soundstaging to be all that great and the bass vibrates a lot. I wouldn't say the bass is muddy or sloppy, but it does feel like there is a lot of movement of the driver in the earbud and I find it annoying. Some may like it. Imaging and separation are just ok and are simply not in the same class as my other 3 earbuds mentioned earlier. I do like the shape of the earbud as it fits great in my ear. It is very comfortable and the BT connection with both my laptop and Ipad were quick and rock solid. The touch controls also work great. I just wish they sounded better. One more thing, these are LOUD. You will need to turn down the volume or you'll blow your ears out. (Note: I originally ordered a pair from Linsoul and they arrived in the USA a week later. However, they never got delivered to me and I contacted Linsoul several times. When it became apparent that they were never going to arrive, Linsoul refunded me. While disappointed that I didn't receive them, Linsoul's customer service was great. They replied to each of my emails and refunded me. I ended up buying a pair on Amazon (previously unavailable) and received them a day later. If you are in the USA and buy from Linsoul, I recommend you pay the extra $12 for the express shipping, because I think the free shipping option is garbage.

A few notes on my other earbuds, Fiil T1x, Haylou GT1 Plus, and Tranya B530.

Fiil T1x - Of the 4 pairs I have, these are the best I have. They sound great in all aspects and make my feet tap and head move when I listen to music - high "Groove" factor. The KZ Z1 doesn't do that for me. The T1x are very "musical" and fun to listen to. The only negative I found with the T1x is that they weren't super comfortable and became fatiguing after wearing for awhile. I believe I may have solved this issue with getting some Auvio eartips, which seem to make them much more comfortable. The BT connection withe the T1x is quick and rock solid.

Haylou GT1 Plus. - These are so sweet and natural sounding. To me, these sound much like the Fiil T1x, but with a lot less power. The sound is kind of like a T1x, but with a much less powerful amplifier. Unlike the T1x, KZ Z1, and B530, the GT1 Plus feel super light and cheap out of the box. When I first got them, I was very unimpressed with the physical feel of the storage box and earbuds and they felt like toys. Additionally, I had to reset mine out of the box to get both the channels to work. But, once I got them to work, I was blown away from the sound. I literally could listen to these all day and these have the "groove" factor I mentioned above - they will make your feet tap and body move uncontrollably to the music. The downsides are that the BT connection is weak and I can't walk to the other side of the house like I can with the T1x. Also, I've had to reset the GT1 Plus at least 3 times and they don't always want to connect. Also, as reported by others, the volume is very low, so you will be close to max on the volume when you use these. I'm also annoyed by the sensitivity of the touch control as I find it impossible to adjust the earbud without pausing the music from the touch control. But, for $25, these are a steal.

Tranya B530 - These are overall good sound buds but they they have connectivity issues with external BT transmitters and my Dell Laptop that has built in BT. When used with an external BT transmitter, it will power off after about 4.5 minutes. On my Dell Laptop, it will randomly disconnect for no reason. The B530's work fine with my Ipad and phone. I contacted Tranya about the connectivity issues I was having and I was told they do all their testing on phones, not PC's and Transmitters. So, if you are planning to use the B530's on something other than a cell phone, don't bother. I don't have the connectivity issues with my other 3 eabuds when using a transmitter or PC. Only the B530 have this issue.

So in the end I got the Z1 before you lol. I concur that they are tuned badly, too v shaped and yes bass is overwhelming. But after play around, i used the wavelet (thanks to our friend @chinmie for sharing this great app) with KZ ZS10 Pro setting autoEQ, and then compensate with manual EQ to reduce more mid bass and reduce high mids because harman target 3khz pinna gain isnt for me. My preference tuning is have boosted bass, thick and weighty mids, with a little forward mids, than from 1.5khz gradually up, pinna gain on 2khz and have dip on 3khz is a must, then go up again on 4khz and slightly go down then a little boost on 8khz before going down. (look at TOTL tuning Sony IER Z1R, QDC Anole VX, etc they have slight dip on 3khz.
and after using wavelet with autoEQ KZ ZS10 Pro + manual EQ they are sounded very great. The moving inside actually is air pressure that come out from the 10mm DD with that turbo charger XUN technology, im not sure if that just a BS marketing terms but that what you feel, the moving air that rarely come, its something that DD lover after actually. The feeling of the moving air is great!. and the tuning after using wavelet autoEQ and manual EQ is great too, they are much different from original v shape tuning,
and combined with azla sedna short eartips, and i put a little piece cut of micropore tape, result is great. Im gonna write this on KZ thread later. but after this simple mods, I like them better than my GT1 plus, but still the GT1 plus have something, details but with that smoothness.
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 5:55 AM Post #22,510 of 70,118
I watched youtube recordings of the mic tests, and initially wasn't impressed by the quality of most of the buds reviewed (from the video), but then found recordings on soundguys.com, and could hear the actual quality - huge difference. A few days later and a pair of Buds+ bought - cracking! Using with double flange tips from my Rai Pentas and there's bass a plenty.

I have them paired to my Mac (High Sierra 10.13.6) and while fine with the O/S, as soon as I try to use via any conferencing like Zoom/Ring, the phones output (sound not mic) switches from 32bit to 16 bit 8KHZ, and sounds terrible...

Anyone else facing this?
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 5:57 AM Post #22,511 of 70,118
For calls only, the Plantronics Backbeat pro 5100 is a great option. If your carrier uses HD voice then that's also compatible on the Backbeat pro. and they're small, the case charges via micro usb but they last 6.5 hours, and can be used individually.
Thanks for the heads up. I checked the pro 5100 and he Buds+ seemed to get higher scores on clarity, so went with the Buds+.

Thanks again.
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 6:37 AM Post #22,512 of 70,118
Thanks for the heads up. I checked the pro 5100 and he Buds+ seemed to get higher scores on clarity, so went with the Buds+.

Thanks again.
no problem. Never used the galaxy buds personally, but over all for what you get with them, looks like a solid purchase.
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 9:47 AM Post #22,514 of 70,118
i just got the Pamu Unique from the mail. my impression on this after short listening time:
the overall presentation of the case and earpiece is good, nice quality plastic, nice swappable case covers. the cons are the case is pretty big in size, and also i do not like the oval shaped nozzle... it's small also, so can't use regular tips on it. the stock oval tips can't fit in my ears at all, so i use some aftermarket TWS tips for it.

on paper, this thing has great specs: solid built, aptx, 10 hours single charge battery life, volume controls (although the skip backward track selection is awkwardly absent), but the sound signature is underwhelming.. it's just not my liking...
it's similar to the pamu scroll's sound (by memory, because it's been a while since i had it). the midbass is too wolly and the treble, although extended, has a weird dip somewhere in the midhigh, resulting the treble to be metallic and tinny. I'm afraid using this for a period of time will make my ears ringing.

i put it on loop play for now to see if the sound would change at all (which i doubt it will). but if the sound stays the same, i think I'll let this go too just like the pamu scroll
 
Jun 9, 2020 at 12:26 PM Post #22,515 of 70,118
Shure 215? how is the static noise/hissing?
I actually returned the SE215 and picked up the SE535. They sound amazing. I can't stop listening to them.
 

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