Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Nov 5, 2018 at 1:44 AM Post #1,607 of 62,440
In Android Oreo, if you go to settings/accesibility/hearing, there is a system wide pan control. This is how I compensate for the channel imbalance on my Elite Actives. Pretty bad for me, I have to go 70/30 Biased to the right for the image to be center. Gonna try to automate this by using Tasker

Legend!!!
Didn't even know that existed. Pretty much same here to balance it out 70/30 applied very arbitrarily.
Of course annoying that it has to be applied system wide and is not a setting specific to the Jabra's but I'll happily take this as a workaround for now.
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 5:51 AM Post #1,608 of 62,440
the 65T doesn't exhibit the imbalance with my Galaxy Tab S2 tablet (as well as my wife's Pixel 2). it's good because when it's balanced, the 65t is actually pretty good sounding and expansive in soundstage, but also irritating because on my daily phone (Note8) it tilted left like crazy...

i checked it with the driver matching test from https://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php

so this is definitely a software problem.

on other topic, I'm really digging the Earin M2 so much. this and the WF1000X have a great tuning and also different from each other that I'm happy with both of them. i also like how the M2 handles ambient sound compared to 65T. It uses a noise gate - like system that only opens if the sound passes certain volume threshold, while the 65T just outright opens the mic and passes everything. so no "ssssssss" static noise on the M2 with ambient mode turned on.

i do find it has some quirks like sometimes it turns to mono mode after it receives phone call, and after i pull one out of my ear (when i was tip rolling). i have to toggle the bluetooth or put it in the case so it resets.
 
Nov 5, 2018 at 7:54 AM Post #1,609 of 62,440
Nov 5, 2018 at 10:56 PM Post #1,610 of 62,440
anyone have/ordered this? tempting, but haven't found any english review on it yet

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32919...d=3587amp-iHrm1jd2wLf8ErC_wCSJcg1541488512064

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Nov 6, 2018 at 1:13 AM Post #1,611 of 62,440
Link not working? I noticed the other day that they had some Jabra Sports Elite clones for about 50€...
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 1:51 AM Post #1,612 of 62,440

they are one of the best selling TWE around the $60 price bracket in Chinese shopping site Tmall. really good reviews.

this is their similar priced competitor also fantastic reviews:
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?s...=1&abbucket=15&sku_properties=5919063:6536025
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 2:18 AM Post #1,613 of 62,440
Link not working? I noticed the other day that they had some Jabra Sports Elite clones for about 50€...

sorry, I've fixed the link. apparently the link is not working from the AE app, so i have to link from the AE website.
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 2:36 AM Post #1,614 of 62,440
Thanks working now. BA like the upcoming Sonys at a fraction of the price...no transparency mode it seems which is not a very good sign in my experience and not very convenient in any case. The reviews are good but they don't say if they've compared them to the usual suspects.
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 3:40 AM Post #1,615 of 62,440
the Sony still have the upper edge on ANC and onboard memory though.. i imagine using TWE for swimming would be patchy at best because of the water and the distance from the phone. this one's price is enticing, especially the BA version
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 10:24 AM Post #1,616 of 62,440
the Sony still have the upper edge on ANC and onboard memory though.. i imagine using TWE for swimming would be patchy at best because of the water and the distance from the phone. this one's price is enticing, especially the BA version
they are one of the best selling TWE around the $60 price bracket in Chinese shopping site Tmall. really good reviews.

this is their similar priced competitor also fantastic reviews:
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?s...=1&abbucket=15&sku_properties=5919063:6536025

my main concern with these OEM Chinese clones is their firmware updates... I assume that they would have to rely on the original manufacturer to provide firmware updates rather than fine-tuning themselves...
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 10:41 AM Post #1,617 of 62,440
Based on my experience with all these OEM models is that you have zero support, limited warranty and sound quality and connection is a hit and miss.
The wireless market is tough and many things can go wrong and my preference would be to spend the money on a tried and tested product.
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 10:43 AM Post #1,618 of 62,440
Based on my experience with all these OEM models is that you have zero support, limited warranty and sound quality and connection is a hit and miss.
The wireless market is tough and many things can go wrong and my preference would be to spend the money on a tried and tested product.
yes, I have to agree with you on this one :wink:
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 10:51 AM Post #1,619 of 62,440
Chi-Fi isn't a big deal when it's passive headphones, but no way in hell I'd get a set when things like firmware are a factor.
 
Nov 6, 2018 at 11:02 AM Post #1,620 of 62,440
Based on my experience with all these OEM models is that you have zero support, limited warranty and sound quality and connection is a hit and miss.
The wireless market is tough and many things can go wrong and my preference would be to spend the money on a tried and tested product.

My thoughts as well. For the $70-100 I'd rather spend a little more for a known entity that will offer support as well as firmware updates. I just don't see the value at that particular price point personally.
 

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