Sep 23, 2024 at 1:34 PM Post #65,341 of 70,670
Have you used the Air Pods Pro 2? Looking for something with comparable ANC/ transparency mode.
Technicz AZ80, although it's not as good as Airpods they are the closest I've tried.

Side note: If you remove the foam from AZ80 tips you get significantly more resolution, it removes the 'blur' from the sound almost completely and resembles a nozzle driver more. As long as you don't EQ up the treble it doesn't sound grainy or sharp at all. It also makes the fit better due to increased flex and reduces irritation from the foam
 
Sep 23, 2024 at 1:39 PM Post #65,342 of 70,670
The Creatives used the XMems Cowell module. The Soundpeats use a separate dynamic driver, which is the same approach that Triumph took, though I'm guessing a lesser quality implementation than that.

These also have wind noise reduction and ldac, two big misses for the Creative.
That's correct, I don't want to speak for Noble so maybe Fullcircle can confirm this if he wants, but I believe they used a proprietary power supply for their xmems instead of the one usually provided with it.

They don't get loud enough for you?? I am surprised to hear that haha. Do you have significant hearing loss?
Probably prior to the firmware update, they increased the overall volume level on the Triumphs
 
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Sep 23, 2024 at 1:39 PM Post #65,343 of 70,670
Exciting news from Bose with the QCII !
- Wireless charging
- "decent" price
- multipoint
- Single/Double/Triple/Long taps on both sides
- and last but not least : ANC OFF ! At long last, up to now it was only ANC/Ambient so really bad for anything windy, let alone riding your bike with them.
Mine are on the way :wink:
The QCII are not these as they came before the Ultra's, these are called the Quiet Comfort Gen2.
They also have Power On/Off and Pairing Mode via the earbuds, it is something like double tap then hold to power them off so . . -
 
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Sep 23, 2024 at 3:09 PM Post #65,345 of 70,670
This is not right. The prestige is an upgrade to the fokus pro not the mystique. The fokus pro and prestige are close with a bit more treble clarity on prestige. The mystique on the other hand is a muddy mess. Bass bloat all day. The triumph is very resolving but doesn't get the volume of all the other noble TWS. I can't use them at the gym as they don't get loud enough. Same with zx1. My advice for this whole forum is find the fokus pro used or spend the money on the prestige for outside listening and I do quite enjoy the triumph for inside listening. Pro or prestige for electronic music and triumph for rock. If I was spending my money now I would just get the fokus pro used as it's the best of all worlds. Triumph is a bit more resolving but at the expense of volume
I think an issue here is the branding. It is very hard to know what the design goals or comparison between these products is, except for random comments on a forum. When there’s nothing official making these details obvious, it is hard to figure out what to do as a shopper.
 
Sep 23, 2024 at 4:10 PM Post #65,347 of 70,670
This is not right. The prestige is an upgrade to the fokus pro not the mystique. The fokus pro and prestige are close with a bit more treble clarity on prestige. The mystique on the other hand is a muddy mess. Bass bloat all day. The triumph is very resolving but doesn't get the volume of all the other noble TWS. I can't use them at the gym as they don't get loud enough. Same with zx1. My advice for this whole forum is find the fokus pro used or spend the money on the prestige for outside listening and I do quite enjoy the triumph for inside listening. Pro or prestige for electronic music and triumph for rock. If I was spending my money now I would just get the fokus pro used as it's the best of all worlds. Triumph is a bit more resolving but at the expense of volume
I'm not familiar with the fokus pro. Was that just the OG fokus before it became mystique? They have a lot of iterations. Apparently, I missed one.

Does the pro have anc?
 
Sep 23, 2024 at 4:42 PM Post #65,348 of 70,670
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Sep 23, 2024 at 6:20 PM Post #65,349 of 70,670
I've been trying the Jbl tour pro 3 for a few hours, and I'm not impressed. Hit and miss on both sound and functionalities. Just hang up on a call and the other end told me the sound was muffled (on the gb3pro nobody was complaining). After eq the bass is above average, but they keep being shouty and dry, the BA driver is cheap in my opinion. If you want to make a "made in China" maybe it's better going for a single driver. Chinese products are better. I would say "all smoke and no roast" ("All talk and no walk"). Maybe more on later or maybe another subdued return (amazon will hate me).
 
Sep 23, 2024 at 6:42 PM Post #65,350 of 70,670
Same. Amazon has them for a great price with a gift card. Ugh. $229 and includes a $30 gc.
That's where mine are coming from
 
Sep 23, 2024 at 8:09 PM Post #65,352 of 70,670
I find it a little amusing when people say the mystique are just boomy and not quality sounds. No they are not boomy in the sense that people use that term negatively. They are a fun, slightly bass heavy presentation. But the base quality is solid, it's not boomy, which implies it's sloppy and messy. If you like a fun sound signature that's quality with good bass, then don't listen to these people. Then don't listen to these people. Especially when they're trying to suggest to you of $500 plus TWS which is a complete rip-off. You're mostly paying for a fancy wood finish for every dollar you're spending over the mystique.
 
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Sep 23, 2024 at 8:37 PM Post #65,353 of 70,670
I find it a little amusing when people say the mystique are just boomy and not quality sounds. No they are not boomy in the sense that people use that term negatively. They are a fun, slightly bass heavy presentation. But the base quality is solid, it's not boomy, which implies it's sloppy and messy. If you like a fun sound signature that's quality with good bass, then don't listen to these people. Then don't listen to these people. Especially when they're trying to suggest to you of $500 plus TWS which is a complete rip-off. You're mostly paying for a fancy wood finish for every dollar you're spending over the mystique.

"Rip-off" it may not be your cup of tea, but it is others.
 
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Sep 23, 2024 at 9:38 PM Post #65,354 of 70,670
"Rip-off" it may not be your cup of tea, but it is others.
That's true. If you like paying a couple hundred bucks extra for a fancy wood finish. That is a real possibility. So I stand corrected.

But a couple of those folks critique of the mystique are just amusing to read. They don't really understand what good bass is but yet talk like they do.
 
Sep 24, 2024 at 2:00 AM Post #65,355 of 70,670
That is the first time I have used the new Bose QC Gen 2 till one side ran out of battery and it was the L and the R still has 24%, that is a joke but I would not be surprised if Bose like Sony still use the old Master & Slave tech instead of TWS Wireless Mirroring.

My Free Byrd and MTW4 are within a few % when one each other at all times but will see if they settle with a few change cycles.
 

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