Jan 3, 2023 at 9:51 PM Post #49,786 of 70,046
You see if you scroll down a bit more Jlab actually gonna try harder :xf_eek: with a $199 hybrid TWS. Lets see if they know what it really takes to jump up to $200 level or if they fall short.

Oh and the Nothing Ear boobs...
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Well I guess that could be embarrassing so they made up another brand so the boob thing need not actually be associated with Nothing Ear lol!
I just want to touch them.
 
Jan 3, 2023 at 10:14 PM Post #49,787 of 70,046
I have to say I might be satisfied for a while... These WF-1000XM4 are a bit big in ear but with Spinfit are comfortable. The Sony hybrids are also comfortable but we're completely Ng loose, so am testing the SP nfits instead.

Sonically these are way better than I expected, I vastly prefer their do nd to the Linkbuds S. Just a lot more of everything in comparison, better bass, mids, treble, sound stage etc. Pretty much an upgrade in every way sonically. The Linkbuds have better ambient though, by quite a big margin. If they marry the best of both into the XM5 they will be a damn compelling package.
I think you like them as a low volume listener. Alot of reports say they don't do well sonically at higher than 60% volume.
 
Jan 3, 2023 at 10:19 PM Post #49,788 of 70,046
You might be right on that! I rarely come close to 50% volume. I am probably listen at 30% when lower volume and 40% is my louder volume.
 
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Jan 3, 2023 at 10:27 PM Post #49,789 of 70,046
I've been rocking my Fiio LC-BT2 neckband with a pair of Fiio FH1s for a couple of years now, and they're been a real lifesaver for me. Yeah, they don't sound quite as good as some of the pricier offerings on the market, but they have a VERY long battery life, which is extremely helpful when you have ADHD and are constantly forgetting to charge your electronic devices.
 
Jan 3, 2023 at 10:28 PM Post #49,790 of 70,046
Jan 3, 2023 at 10:52 PM Post #49,792 of 70,046
Too bad about Huawei hope there is a work around because even just with AAC I was impressed with dynamic range deep tight bass and crisp but not sibilant highs.
If I can get LDAC working o think they are a keeper otherwise will go for the Oppo.
 
Jan 3, 2023 at 10:53 PM Post #49,793 of 70,046
Jan 3, 2023 at 11:02 PM Post #49,794 of 70,046
Apple AirPods Pro 1st gen and the Sony MDR-AS800BT, WF-1000XM4, WF-1000XM3, some AKG, Samsung, and Technics offerings show promise with IEM FR....and Apple AirPods Pro 2nd gen show some promise in terms of eventually getting to an AMBEO 11.1 standard which would be fairly dope.

But let's be real .... Bluetooth is still only offering compressed sub-1411kbps quality ....and thats's fine for someone listening to 192kbps MP3's, but not really very good yet compared to real quality digital audio.
 
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Jan 3, 2023 at 11:11 PM Post #49,795 of 70,046
Apple AirPods Pro 1st gen and some AKG, Sony, Samsung, and Technics offerings show promise with IEM FR....and Apple AirPods Pro 2nd gen show some promise in terms of eventually getting to an AMBEO 11.1 standard which would be fairly dope.

But let's be real .... Bluetooth is still only offering compressed sub-1411kbps quality ....and thats's fine for someone listening to 192kbps MP3's, but not really very good yet compared to real quality digital audio.
Agree to disagree.
Most of us can't hear difference above the higher bit rate codecs and hi res music.

To date the biggest issue was substandard drivers and tuning compared to iem counterparts.
Most of this was due to size constraints. You need to have battery and electronics and still fit in an ear.

As components are shrinking and battery tech getting better we are seeing emergency of multi driver TWS with high res Codecs and quality is getting closer.
Now would I compare them to a 200$ or more IEM no.
But the Aria level and lower I would say we have gotten there.
 
Jan 3, 2023 at 11:34 PM Post #49,796 of 70,046
Since BT without the new aptX Lossless is mathematical 80% of CD quality how can sub 192k mp3 be suffice?

CD Rips of Flac or even 320k mp3 over SBC or aptX (both 16/44.1 so a match for the ripped files) is good enough for most to be out and about with the added convenience of no wire dangling out their pocket getting caught on things.

That is why we have so called "Hi-Res" Codecs, to try and get back some of the lost quality even though it will not be the same as listening to the Hi-Res files via wired ear/headphones or a an actual CD.
 
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Jan 4, 2023 at 12:54 AM Post #49,797 of 70,046
Too bad about Huawei hope there is a work around because even just with AAC I was impressed with dynamic range deep tight bass and crisp but not sibilant highs.
If I can get LDAC working o think they are a keeper otherwise will go for the Oppo.
Sounds like you have the American Playstore app. You need to sideload the Chinese one to toggle on high res audio.
 
Jan 4, 2023 at 1:24 AM Post #49,798 of 70,046
Sounds like you have the American Playstore app. You need to sideload the Chinese one to toggle on high res audio.
No have Canadian app downloaded directly from Huawei not the play store. It is an android 13 thing not making it work. Found a work around to get LDAC using a phone on android 12 though the option is still not in the app settings but is in the blue tooth connection settings and developer settings now .

And wow these sound amazing. Wider soundstage and better imaging than the techniques with deep clean bass and great mids and highs
 
Jan 4, 2023 at 3:16 AM Post #49,799 of 70,046
I have to say I might be satisfied for a while... These WF-1000XM4 are a bit big in ear but with Spinfit are comfortable. The Sony hybrids are also comfortable but we're completely Ng loose, so am testing the SP nfits instead.

Sonically these are way better than I expected, I vastly prefer their do nd to the Linkbuds S. Just a lot more of everything in comparison, better bass, mids, treble, sound stage etc. Pretty much an upgrade in every way sonically. The Linkbuds have better ambient though, by quite a big margin. If they marry the best of both into the XM5 they will be a damn compelling package.
XM4 is the only TWS or IEM(for that matter) I use eq for. I found a perfect setting, for my tastes that make them really good
 

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