Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Aug 6, 2021 at 8:49 AM Post #35,896 of 62,823
Alright, just ordered a set in gun metal color. I’m clearly obsessing over trying them since I can’t stop look at them online. Looking forward to comparing to PI7.
I think they compare favorably. Perhaps not on resolution but I prefer the tonality. Very musical and the soundstage is killer. In the past I wasn’t sold on the fit which is why I avoided them but they are light and comfy. Used them exercising last night and they stayed put fairly well. The ANC isn’t great - basically like all other ANC not named Bose or Sony.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 9:01 AM Post #35,897 of 62,823
I think they compare favorably. Perhaps not on resolution but I prefer the tonality. Very musical and the soundstage is killer. In the past I wasn’t sold on the fit which is why I avoided them but they are light and comfy. Used them exercising last night and they stayed put fairly well. The ANC isn’t great - basically like all other ANC not named Bose or Sony.
The perceived small size (let alone the Klipsch name) was a selling point.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 11:42 AM Post #35,898 of 62,823
Interesting that these pictures have shown up on a Russian forum --- we've only released the DTW1000H to customers in China who pre-ordered the LUNA way back in December 2019. The DTW1000H was one of the perks of the pre-order. Right now, we're still undergoing the international wireless certification process, so it is a China-only model for now. It may be some time before we release it globally, and perhaps only in select markets at first.

But some quick specs: 1 DD (7.5 mm beryllium-plated) + 2 BA (dual Knowles driver), with a high-end Qualcomm chipset, supporting BT 5.2, AptX Adaptive, and low-latency gaming mode. Battery life is estimated to be around 8 hours of playback, and 40 hours with the charging case.

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I would definitely trade up from my Tridents for these.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 12:07 PM Post #35,899 of 62,823
Have been doing some quick testing. ANC is not as powerful as Sony or Sennheiser. I am thinking it could be the tips. What is your experience with the warriors????
Definitely not as powerful as the Sony XM4s but the passive isolation makes up for it for me. I don't have my Sennies anymore to compare.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 1:35 PM Post #35,901 of 62,823
Anyone here heard of rtings.com? Wish head-fi had something similar to what they're doing..but they test only popular options since that's what people vote on to be tested. The sony wf 1000 xm4 suprisingly scored lower than the galaxy buds + because it had low treble accuracy (?). They currently think Samsung Galaxy Buds+ are the best wireless earbuds.


Found that someone already suggested Noble Falcon: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/suggestions but it's not popular enough to be voted/tested on.


Rtings doesn't seem to like Cambridge Audio very much:
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-plus-true-wireless
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-truly-wireless
 
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Aug 6, 2021 at 2:06 PM Post #35,902 of 62,823
Anyone here heard of rtings.com? Wish head-fi had something similar to what they're doing..but they test only popular options since that's what people vote on to be tested. The sony wf 1000 xm4 suprisingly scored lower than the galaxy buds + because it had low treble accuracy (?). They currently think Samsung Galaxy Buds+ are the best wireless earbuds.


Found that someone already suggested Noble Falcon: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/suggestions but it's not popular enough to be voted/tested on.


Rtings doesn't seem to like Cambridge Audio very much:
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-plus-true-wireless
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-truly-wireless
I’ve never been a fan of RTings. Their subjective impressions never seem to align, even with the general majority of those in Head-Fi. It’s like they try to read the graph but mess up somewhere. Their graphs themselves are fine though. I just don’t trust their subjective impressions. Part of me feels like they don’t actually listen to the headphones and just try to read graphs.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 2:14 PM Post #35,903 of 62,823
I’ve never been a fan of RTings. Their subjective impressions never seem to align, even with the general majority of those in Head-Fi. It’s like they try to read the graph but mess up somewhere. Their graphs themselves are fine though. I just don’t trust their subjective impressions. Part of me feels like they don’t actually listen to the headphones and just try to read graphs.
From the outside in, they look like a review mill. Take that for what you will, but I probably wouldn't take too much credence to the opinion portions of their reviews. They're a decent resource for specifications, though, and I do tend to find their picture adjustment settings in the TV sections to be pretty good.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 2:15 PM Post #35,904 of 62,823
I’ve never been a fan of RTings. Their subjective impressions never seem to align, even with the general majority of those in Head-Fi. It’s like they try to read the graph but mess up somewhere. Their graphs themselves are fine though. I just don’t trust their subjective impressions. Part of me feels like they don’t actually listen to the headphones and just try to read graphs.
RTings also doesn't take into consideration EQ and stuff like that. For example, they don't rate Nura that high, but after you run their Personalized EQ process, the headphones shine. I only go to RTings when I want to compare and contrast what others have to say. Then I make my own judgements.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 2:47 PM Post #35,906 of 62,823
Speaking of the Sonys, secondpity via eBay has the WF-1000XM3 (Refurbished, Black or Silver) for $67.99 after coupon code B2SCRSAVING. Not bad for one of the truly great ANC TWS sets out there.
Nice deal! I've been waiting for them to go sub-$100, but it's not the right time for me and I think I have my stable figured out for now. Hope someone manages to jump in on that, though.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 3:20 PM Post #35,907 of 62,823
Anyone here heard of rtings.com? Wish head-fi had something similar to what they're doing..but they test only popular options since that's what people vote on to be tested. The sony wf 1000 xm4 suprisingly scored lower than the galaxy buds + because it had low treble accuracy (?). They currently think Samsung Galaxy Buds+ are the best wireless earbuds.


Found that someone already suggested Noble Falcon: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/suggestions but it's not popular enough to be voted/tested on.


Rtings doesn't seem to like Cambridge Audio very much:
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-plus-true-wireless
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/cambridge-audio/melomania-1-truly-wireless
Rtings is pretty much a joke for audio. I can't recall the specifics but their rating system works something like this:

Iem a:treble not great 7.6
Iem b: treble. is awesome 7.4
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 7:30 PM Post #35,908 of 62,823
Not sure what’s up with these oval tips from Klipsch but they are really small. Had to go to xl for a seal. Usually medium suffices for me. Having trouble finding a good fit with these and tips seem proprietary. Fine sitting still but once you start moving forget about it. Not talking about running. Just lifting weights.
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 8:13 PM Post #35,909 of 62,823
Not sure what’s up with these oval tips from Klipsch but they are really small. Had to go to xl for a seal. Usually medium suffices for me. Having trouble finding a good fit with these and tips seem proprietary. Fine sitting still but once you start moving forget about it. Not talking about running. Just lifting weights.
I use the XL tips too. You should call Klipsch and tell them you're having fit issues when working out. They can send you the wingtips from the sport version. I have a pair of unused Large if you want them. Just message me your address and I'll pop them in a USPS First Class envelope :)
 
Aug 6, 2021 at 8:17 PM Post #35,910 of 62,823
I use the XL tips too. You should call Klipsch and tell them you're having fit issues when working out. They can send you the wingtips from the sport version. I have a pair of unused Large if you want them. Just message me your address and I'll pop them in a USPS First Class envelope :)
Thanks man. Very nice of you. I may take you up on that. I’ll try Klipsch on Monday and see if they can hook me up. If not, I’ll hit you up. The XL definitely help. Not sure what they were thinking. I don’t really have large ears. On a positive note, really enjoy them. How do you like em v the mw08. I think I know the answer but want to hear it from you …
 
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