Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[erockg]

Okay, as always, I took the plunge. I loved the MW08 but sold mine because of fit, the case was a fingerprint magnet and didn't have wireless charging - something I rely on in this day and age.

Picked up the MW08 Sport. Same sound but still listening. The case is exactly what it should be. Wireless charging, matte finish, zero fingerprints. The buds have the sapphire finish and they too have zero fingerprints. What I really love is the foam tips. Similar to the black olives Shure makes. Better than Comply IMO. This is exactly what they should've always included. The fit is soooooo much better in my ears now.

It's going to be a fun afternoon...

 

[assassin10000]

What I really love is the foam tips. Similar to the black olives Shure makes. Better than Comply IMO.

Hmmm. Another set of foam tips I may need to aquire. The shure tips have long been a favorite of mine. Are these as soft as the olives?

Followed by some generic 'ball' type foams from AE.

 

[erockg]

Hmmm. Another set of foam tips I may need to aquire. The shure tips have long been a favorite of mine. Are these as soft as the olives?

Followed by some generic 'ball' type foams from AE.

Yes, they're as soft, maybe a bit softer. I'm diggin' them.

 

[tinyman392]

I might. For $99 it’s worth a gamble. Otherwise I’ll just get some b stock LCD i4 with the Bluetooth Cipher cable.

I don’t own the LCD I4, but do own the iSine and the Cipher BT cable for that and wasn’t really impressed. The Cipher BT cable kind of turned it into a dark mess which was very unfortunate. The normal Cipher cable works great with it though.

 

[CocaCola15]

I'm liking the sound of the WF-1000XM4 so far. With Spinfit 360 tips, some slight EQ, and LDAC locked at the highest quality things sound pretty impressive. I kind of expected that I'd like the sound quality of my Melomania Touch's more, but these are just as enjoyable, or maybe even better. The XM4 can sound just as clear and detailed, just as punchy, and just as dynamic. In terms of comfort I'm not 100% happy there yet, but I'm hoping I'll either get used to it and it wont bother me anymore or maybe one of the 3 different tips I ordered from Amazon will somehow help.

Also, for the people that have recommended that I try the Epro tips on my MT, those are one of the tips I ordered from Amazon. Also ordered the ridiculously expensive Spiral Dot++'s as well.

This is the EQ I'm using on the XM4. No complaints of them sounding dark or too bass heavy with this little amount of EQ (surprising to me) and the Spinfit 360 tips.

I had the Sonys, nice. I own the MTs, nice too. Sonys $279, MTs $129. I kept the MTs.

 

[jasonb]

I had the Sonys, nice. I own the MTs, nice too. Sonys $279, MTs $129. I kept the MTs.

I totally expected to not be happy with the sound of the XM4, but with just some minor EQ within the Sony app they sound just how I'd want them. I totally thought I'd be disappointed and would want to return them. The XM3 that I had prior needed more EQ than the Sony Headphones app could do, and required me to use Wavelet. Now I just need to get my ears used to them cause so far I'm not finding the comfort to be totally enjoyable for long periods of time.

 

[CJYYZ]

Studs are more secure, anyway. The Crystal should help. If not those, then the TW00. It's kind of a one-two solution for me regarding fit at this point. A few sets prefer the kind of shroud that's on the ADV M5, but I can usually get a fit with most sets using the two I mentioned.

My recommendation is really going to come down to what you think is more important. The MT will more likely have a sound signature you can immediately appreciate. The FITS and Technics both take sitting time; FITS for their neutrality, Technics for the treble emphasis. Get last that and feed them the right content, though, and both will definitely impress. Pass on the Technics if you plan to do any sort of physical activity with them. You won't want to drop one of these buds.

The shop I bought the Z7s from doesn't carry the MTs, so I exchanged them for a new set of Z7s. This new set sounds WAY better! I had to actually remove a bit of bass with the EQ, which leads me to think the left bass driver in the original pair was blown from the start. The honeymoon is back on!

I'm going to try some Azra tips to see if I can improve the fit. Can anyone explain the differences/benefits between Crystal and XELASTEC tips?

Can advise if these are the correct Crystal tips for the Z7s? The inner shaft seems really short compared to the Final tips I'm using now.
https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEarfit-Crystal-Replacement-Eartips/dp/B08TWG48DT/ref=sr_1_17_sspa?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgISIBhBfEiwALE19SUqo7BLS5ybQ1y_jhEStZ8OKmUuR-H98T1fpapvxFtzdJmnLIQRc0xoCa3cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=506489259828&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000998&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18376846901589911855&hvtargid=kwd-1282522795101&hydadcr=14278_10127098&keywords=azla%2Bcrystal&qid=1627505276&sr=8-17-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFRMkdZVzZLRUVQRjAmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4OTUxOTMxTTNJOTJTN1dHTTFZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMTg2MjUxQUtFWUJYRUZOUUYwJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

I found two sets of XELASTECs on amazon, one with a shorter inner shaft and one with a longer one. Can anyone tell me which would be best for the Z7s?

Shorter: https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEar...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Longer: https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEarfit-XELASTEC-Pairs-Size/dp/B08BRGHYVN/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgISIBhBfEiwALE19SUqo7BLS5ybQ1y_jhEStZ8OKmUuR-H98T1fpapvxFtzdJmnLIQRc0xoCa3cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=506489259828&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000998&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18376846901589911855&hvtargid=kwd-1282522795101&hydadcr=14278_10127098&keywords=azla%2Bcrystal&qid=1627505935&sr=8-4-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFUUFJUNkZCWEVETEUmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2ODM3ODUzTVI3N1YyMjRRNVFCJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMTkxNDkxRkhXOU5EVE1OOTlKJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

Thanks!

 

[CocaCola15]

I totally expected to not be happy with the sound of the XM4, but with just some minor EQ within the Sony app they sound just how I'd want them. I totally thought I'd be disappointed and would want to return them. The XM3 that I had prior needed more EQ than the Sony Headphones app could do, and required me to use Wavelet. Now I just need to get my ears used to them cause so far I'm not finding the comfort to be totally enjoyable for long periods of time.

I hear you. I had the X3s too, didn't care for the form factor or the seeming volume limitation. Figured nothing to lose trying the X4. I didn't dislike them but didn't find them compelling at $150 more than the MTs. I know they have a FW update, so I didn't get to hear that. But the MTs just sound so fine to me, after the initial hiccups with the case fitment and other hassles. I returned my first pair. No secret, I also am a major fan of the Melomania 1+. Different cat from the Touch, but I listen to them a lot, built like a tank, click not tap, and 8 hours on a charge.

Anyway, didn't mean to denigrate the Sonys. Many here seem to love them. But I didn't feel the price to performance equation was there.

 

[Tommy C]

I hear you. I had the X3s too, didn't care for the form factor or the seeming volume limitation. Figured nothing to lose trying the X4. I didn't dislike them but didn't find them compelling at $150 more than the MTs. I know they have a FW update, so I didn't get to hear that. But the MTs just sound so fine to me, after the initial hiccups with the case fitment and other hassles. I returned my first pair. No secret, I also am a major fan of the Melomania 1+. Different cat from the Touch, but I listen to them a lot, built like a tank, click not tap, and 8 hours on a charge.

Anyway, didn't mean to denigrate the Sonys. Many here seem to love them. But I didn't feel the price to performance equation was there.

I’m trying to understand if there is a different in sq between the CA Melomania 1+ and the Touch or is it simply a different form factor?
I guess I could always email CA but would much rather have an opinion from someone who has both.

 

[miserybeforethemusic]

The shop I bought the Z7s from doesn't carry the MTs, so I exchanged them for a new set of Z7s. This new set sounds WAY better! I had to actually remove a bit of bass with the EQ, which leads me to think the left bass driver in the original pair was blown from the start. The honeymoon is back on!

I'm going to try some Azra tips to see if I can improve the fit. Can anyone explain the differences/benefits between Crystal and XELASTEC tips?

Can advise if these are the correct Crystal tips for the Z7s? The inner shaft seems really short compared to the Final tips I'm using now.
https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEarfit-Crystal-Replacement-Eartips/dp/B08TWG48DT/ref=sr_1_17_sspa?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgISIBhBfEiwALE19SUqo7BLS5ybQ1y_jhEStZ8OKmUuR-H98T1fpapvxFtzdJmnLIQRc0xoCa3cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=506489259828&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000998&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18376846901589911855&hvtargid=kwd-1282522795101&hydadcr=14278_10127098&keywords=azla%2Bcrystal&qid=1627505276&sr=8-17-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFRMkdZVzZLRUVQRjAmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4OTUxOTMxTTNJOTJTN1dHTTFZJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMTg2MjUxQUtFWUJYRUZOUUYwJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfbXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

I found two sets of XELASTECs on amazon, one with a shorter inner shaft and one with a longer one. Can anyone tell me which would be best for the Z7s?

Shorter: https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEar...9Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Longer: https://www.amazon.ca/AZLA-SednaEarfit-XELASTEC-Pairs-Size/dp/B08BRGHYVN/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?dchild=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwgISIBhBfEiwALE19SUqo7BLS5ybQ1y_jhEStZ8OKmUuR-H98T1fpapvxFtzdJmnLIQRc0xoCa3cQAvD_BwE&hvadid=506489259828&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000998&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=18376846901589911855&hvtargid=kwd-1282522795101&hydadcr=14278_10127098&keywords=azla%2Bcrystal&qid=1627505935&sr=8-4-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFUUFJUNkZCWEVETEUmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2ODM3ODUzTVI3N1YyMjRRNVFCJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMTkxNDkxRkhXOU5EVE1OOTlKJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

Thanks!

That's a lot of links, bud. You want the Azla Crystal TWS tips. These guys:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TWFTHRL/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_VBG7T9R38TQMP1N4C0MF

 

[Caipirina]

I'm liking the sound of the WF-1000XM4 so far. With Spinfit 360 tips, some slight EQ, and LDAC locked at the highest quality things sound pretty impressive. I kind of expected that I'd like the sound quality of my Melomania Touch's more, but these are just as enjoyable, or maybe even better. The XM4 can sound just as clear and detailed, just as punchy, and just as dynamic. In terms of comfort I'm not 100% happy there yet, but I'm hoping I'll either get used to it and it wont bother me anymore or maybe one of the 3 different tips I ordered from Amazon will somehow help.

Also, for the people that have recommended that I try the Epro tips on my MT, those are one of the tips I ordered from Amazon. Also ordered the ridiculously expensive Spiral Dot++'s as well.

This is the EQ I'm using on the XM4. No complaints of them sounding dark or too bass heavy with this little amount of EQ (surprising to me) and the Spinfit 360 tips.

Nice to hear! My XM4 are supposed to arrive here next Wednesday, but still unclear if they have to stay for 2 weeks in quarantine with my 'courier' or if I can go pick them up ... will be interesting. Possibly the first on the island to have them. Though I have seen the new Beats TWS for sale for a mere 230USD

 

[dweaver]

Finally got the Status Between Pro yesterday and so far I pretty busy mpressed with their sound quality. They are lacking in the feature department (no app, no auto stop with sensors, no ANC.

But sonically I am really enjoying them. They have big sub-bass when called for, good natural sounding mid-bass,a slightly V shaped signature that is slightly warm,and decent highs. I also enjoy their imaging and sound stage. It's not as good as a great wired headphone but they better than some of my other TWS.

My son gave them a try with all electronic music and he really liked the bass in particular.. for me I found them good with Jazz, classical music, older rock music music, pretty much anything with natural instruments seems to sound good with them.

 

[xuan87]

Anyone here interested in purchasing the Nothing Ear 1? So far they are promising alot for $99:

Great design
11.6mm dynamic driver (I'm a sucker for huge single DD, Power of One!)
Made an effort to get an external company to tune it
Bluetooth 5.2
App for EQ tuning
ANC
Decent battery life

I'm not sure if it'll be coming to my country so I might not be able to listen to it before purchasing one.

 

[mtl171]

Anyone here interested in purchasing the Nothing Ear 1? So far they are promising alot for $99:

Great design
11.6mm dynamic driver (I'm a sucker for huge single DD, Power of One!)
Made an effort to get an external company to tune it
Bluetooth 5.2
App for EQ tuning
ANC
Decent battery life

I'm not sure if it'll be coming to my country so I might not be able to listen to it before purchasing one.

I'm intrigued to say the least. The decent battery life, EQ support, and ANC at the price is quite interesting. Though all the marketing push has me a bit skeptical, so definitely going to wait for some user reviews.

 

[senorbroom]

I'm intrigued to say the least. The decent battery life, EQ support, and ANC at the price is quite interesting. Though all the marketing push has me a bit skeptical, so definitely going to wait for some user reviews.

I'm quite interested as well. I'm enjoying the new Sennhesier CX but the fit isn't amazing for me (I have small ears). I've got some Spinfit CP360 arriving tomorrow and if they don't help with the fit I might try and get in and take a gamble on the Nothing Ear (1). My main concern is that the sound will just be completely average.