Full-size woodies w/ biocellulose drivers from Fostex?!

[SonicDawg]

Ah.. too bad that they don't do retail sale... Maybe we can get a group buy going...

 

[markl]

These aren't the same as the Denons which use a Mahogany not Zelkova wood (the R10 used Zelkova, too).

Also, the Denons are not Biocellulose, it's Microfiber: "Microfiber diaphragm--Microfiber diaphragms have 100x the density of cellulose diaphragms, delivering increased transmission rates and more faithful sonic reproduction"

Still, I would love to get my hands on a pair of these to compare and contrast...

 

[Death_Metalhead]

Is there a way to get a pair of these ?

 

[Philimon]

Nice find. Let us know if you get a reply. If you think it would help we could all send a message to the same contact email?

 

[ezzo]

Oh man, I am NOT buying Foster/Fostex made the Denons.

 

[BushGuy]

if you go back to the early thread(s) here re Denon 'phones - there was a pic. or two of them within the Fostex booth at a trade show. This is not a new discovery.

 

[IPodPJ]

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Originally Posted by IPodPJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yes, of course they are just like the Denons. The Denon drivers are Fostex biocellulose drivers. So why not expect the rest of the headphone to look the same too? The only difference I see are different cup materials, perhaps a different kind of wood.

I'm correcting myself. I just remembered that the Denons are not using biocellulose drivers. They use microfiber drivers made by Fostex.

 

[IPodPJ]

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Originally Posted by markl /img/forum/go_quote.gif These aren't the same as the Denons which use a Mahogany not Zelkova wood (the R10 used Zelkova, too). Also, the Denons are not Biocellulose, it's Microfiber: "Microfiber diaphragm--Microfiber diaphragms have 100x the density of cellulose diaphragms, delivering increased transmission rates and more faithful sonic reproduction" Still, I would love to get my hands on a pair of these to compare and contrast...

LOL. Yup. I just posted this above before I read yours.
I'd like to get a pair too. If we can find out how much they cost, maybe we can do a group buy.

 

[Chu]

Slightly related. I ran into these searching for something else : Creative Aurvana Live!

Picture:

Specs:

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* 40mm Neodymium magnet driver with composite bio-cellulose diaphragm for a faithful and natural playback. * Optimally contoured earcups to minimise internal sound distortion and offer accurate playback. * High-grade soft, supple leatherette earpads provide an excellent seal against external noise while offering unmatched comfort for an extended duration. * Aesthetic and lightweight design caters to music enthusiasts for use at home or when on the move. * High-purity Oxygen-Free Copper (OFC) cable with gold-plated plug deliver pristine performance. * 1.5m (5 ft) extension cable and 6.3mm (¼ inch) adapter for connection to home stereo equipment. * Convenient microfiber travel pouch for easy storage and use as an earcup polisher.

The specs don't match anything on Fostex's site so Bio-celluouse drivers might not exactly be an uncommon thing anymore. I am a bit curious how they sound though, considering creative's (awful) reputation.

 

[AnGeLiCbOrIs]

Hre's what Cnet.uk had to say about the Aurvana Live.

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We commented last week that Creative is having a particularly spectacular time of late, and today we've added another thing to the growing list of things the company is doing right. The new Aurvana Live headphones cost a very reasonable £89 and offer exceptionally good performance for the price. We've been pumping a vast array of musical favourites through these glossy cans for the last 24 hours and we're very impressed. The snugtastic earcups are comfortable to wear for hours on end and compliment the headphones' lightweight build. Sound quality is equally impressive: there's oodles of detail across the audible spectrum, along with pounding bass response and punchy mids. On a live recording of Dream Theater's Endless Sacrifice, the hands of hundreds of fans can be heard clapping subtly beneath the layers of guitars, skull-crushing drum tracks and thick keyboard and bass lines -- no easy task.

So who's gonna be the first to try 'em?

 

[ezzo]

Knowing that Fostex made the (my) Denons sure sucks. Its like buying some clone product. LOL.

 

[ericj]

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Originally Posted by AnGeLiCbOrIs /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hre's what Cnet.uk had to say about the Aurvana Live. So who's gonna be the first to try 'em?

What's ironic here is that Dream Theater conspicuously uses Fostex T20 headphones for all their recording & mixing. (which are orthos rather than fancy dynamics)

 

[ph0rk]

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Originally Posted by ezzo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Knowing that Fostex made the (my) Denons sure sucks. Its like buying some clone product. LOL.

I think you would be even more disappointed if you knew the full story for everything else in your home. Rebranded electronics is very old news.

 

[ericj]

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Originally Posted by ph0rk /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think you would be even more disappointed if you knew the full story for everything else in your home. Rebranded electronics is very old news.

Yes. Foster Japan has been building a substantial fraction of the consumer electronics sold world wide for longer than many head-fiers have been alive.

And so has Pioneer, and Matsu****a Heavy Industries aka Panasonic. And Hitachi.

The only difference between them is that Foster never really sought their own brand recognition with consumers.

And it's not really rebranding, either. Foster develops manufacturing technologies, mostly, and then other companies leverage them. Denon didn't just take a Foster product off the shelf and put their name on it - they worked closely with Foster to develop a distinct product. They just didn't have to invent the whole production line at the same time.

 

[rlanger]

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Originally Posted by ezzo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Knowing that Fostex made the (my) Denons sure sucks. Its like buying some clone product. LOL.

I could care less personally. There's no reason that Foster's quality control and R&D are any less sophisticated than Denons. Probably more so because they have more at stake, given the large number of clients they have who rebrand their products.

Just because Foster made them hasn't changed the way they sound, has it?