[Phantaminum]

It's actually quite discouraging to read how many mixed reviews there are on pads for these ... the only consistency I am finding is with the ZMF Eikons

I have the Lawton Pads that V-Racer reviewed. For your TH-X00’s sake stay away from them as they’re really meant for the TH900.

You have a great first world problem in that there are plenty of pads that you can purchase that are more comfortable and still sound great. Personally I love the sheepskin Dekoni pads and I’m hoping to try out the ZMF Oris. If you’re looking at the ZMF Eikons PM me.

 

[cskippy]

I have the Lawton Pads that V-Racer reviewed. For your TH-X00’s sake stay away from them as they’re really meant for the TH900.

You have a great first world problem in that there are plenty of pads that you can purchase that are more comfortable and still sound great. Personally I love the sheepskin Dekoni pads and I’m hoping to try out the ZMF Oris. If you’re looking at the ZMF Eikons PM me.

+1

I'll also recommend the TH-X00 series Dekoni Sheepskin pads from Massdrop. ZMF Ori is also pretty good.

 

[escknx]

Okay, after reading ~30 last pages I'm ordering Lawton TuneUp Kit and crossed off Vesper, Alphas and Dekonis.

Leaving me w options of ZMF Ori or Eikon

today I'll have it installed on my E-Mu Teaks with a pair of ZMF Eikon pads

What is your impression on Eikon over Ori? Comfort wise

 

[jmills8]

Why do you have so many TH900s lol .. are all of these mods between them making them that much different ?

Yep, one has pure silver cable, the other bigger copper cable, one lawton 1 upgrade, the other full lawton up grade and one stock.

 

[crazy88888888]

Yep, one has pure silver cable, the other bigger copper cable, one lawton 1 upgrade, the other full lawton up grade and one stock.

Can you tell a more than subtle difference between copper and silver ?

 

[jmills8]

Can you tell a more than subtle difference between copper and silver ?

Lawton copper cable gived a fuller mids. Silver fromm Moon audio actually tapers the top end of the treble while giving more details and seperation.

 

[gLer]

Okay, after reading ~30 last pages I'm ordering Lawton TuneUp Kit and crossed off Vesper, Alphas and Dekonis.

I’m honestly surprised no-one rates the alphas. For me they’re the best sounding pads on the X00 bar none. Of course they charge the stock sound, but to my taste for the better. And I don’t think anyone can argue about their comfort. I wish every headphone had alpha pads! To each his own I guess.

 

[escknx]

I’m honestly surprised no-one rates the alphas. For me they’re the best sounding pads on the X00 bar none. Of course they charge the stock sound, but to my taste for the better. And I don’t think anyone can argue about their comfort. I wish every headphone had alpha pads! To each his own I guess.

Yea the thing I don't want to change stock sound. I don't mind slight changes but I don't need elevated highs over stock. My ears are extremely treble sensitive.

 

[gLer]

Yea the thing I don't want to change stock sound. I don't mind slight changes but I don't need elevated highs over stock. My ears are extremely treble sensitive.

Mine too! The alphas tame the highs beautifully! That’s their best feature. The also extend the sub bass, but are never boomy.and the sound stage too.

 

[Pahani]

I’m honestly surprised no-one rates the alphas. For me they’re the best sounding pads on the X00 bar none. Of course they charge the stock sound, but to my taste for the better. And I don’t think anyone can argue about their comfort. I wish every headphone had alpha pads! To each his own I guess.

I actually do have a spare pair of Alpha pads kicking around, I may try them vs my Oris. I'm not a good one to do this test though, I'm not a critical listener in any sense of the word.

FYI both are made of roughly identical sheepskin by feel. Alpha pads have a slightly steeper angle, with the thin section appearing slightly thinner, and the tall section being slightly taller. The Alpha foam feels ever so slightly stiffer using my uber-scientific finger pinch method

And of course, the Alphas are more rectangular (made to fit on Mr. Speaker's modded T-50s), while the Oris are full round.

I might try a test tomorrow.

 

[gLer]

I actually do have a spare pair of Alpha pads kicking around, I may try them vs my Oris. I'm not a good one to do this test though, I'm not a critical listener in any sense of the word.

FYI both are made of roughly identical sheepskin by feel. Alpha pads have a slightly steeper angle, with the thin section appearing slightly thinner, and the tall section being slightly taller. The Alpha foam feels ever so slightly stiffer using my uber-scientific finger pinch method

And of course, the Alphas are more rectangular (made to fit on Mr. Speaker's modded T-50s), while the Oris are full round.

I might try a test tomorrow.

Great, look forward to your impressions! Just love the look of the Fostex with the alphas (see my avatar)

 

[Mark Up]

EQ

A valid solution. Having used it infinitely in my studio, I always prefer improving the source. EQ introduces phase shift in normal mode, even higher quality Linear Phase EQ, which does not do that, introduces pre-ringing that rounds off transients. I play from many sources (iTunes, Windows Media Player, various on-line apps and radio, Cakewalk Sonar, Pro Tools, Sound Forge, and out of a Focusrite all-in-one interface (recording, MIDI, dual headphone outs, etc.) in a minimal setup. Beyond that, reflections within a cup can be an issue or have a purpose EQ may not help.

 

[jmills8]

A valid solution. Having used it infinitely in my studio, I always prefer improving the source. EQ introduces phase shift in normal mode, even higher quality Linear Phase EQ, which does not do that, introduces pre-ringing that rounds off transients. I play from many sources (iTunes, Windows Media Player, various on-line apps and radio, Cakewalk Sonar, Pro Tools, Sound Forge, and out of a Focusrite all-in-one interface (recording, MIDI, dual headphone outs, etc.) in a minimal setup. Beyond that, reflections within a cup can be an issue or have a purpose EQ may not help.

Too bad you choose that way but if you enjoy doing it that way enjoy the journey.

 

[Mark Up]

Too bad you choose that way but if you enjoy doing it that way enjoy the journey.

It's different since I use them for both listening pleasure and referencing mixes and during mastering as an alternative to my Dynaudio BM-6A Mk1 and a custom sub in a treated room. My ear is beyond the point of return when it comes to hearing subtle changes things like EQ introduce. Some newer engineers like to fix stuff later but I'm more old school, trying to fix things at the earliest part of the chain, the source. It also has to be quick jumping between applications vs. having to insert an EQ in the chain in Pro Tools, Sonar, etc. but yes, it's made it quite a journey trying cans.

 

[escknx]

Mine too! The alphas tame the highs beautifully! That’s their best feature. The also extend the sub bass, but are never boomy.and the sound stage too.

I already have plenty of pad that I don't like and their sales are final.
But I'll definitively try em when I have a chance to see the difference w Oris.