[omegaorgun]

Does anyone know if there is a way to remove the T50RP logos without damaging the plastic?

 

[omegaorgun]

Yeah, I put the mad dog pads on them. Comfort greatly improved, but the sound was about the same. To be fair, I find the MDP's to have somewhat harsh treble as well, but if I had to pick one, the MDP's were better for the same price. The wood cups were gorgeous though.

The creaking was so bad, I would have needed to return them anyway, so I decided to just return and not exchange. They actually sound very similar to my MDR-V6's with DT250 pads but at more than 3X the price, it wasn't worth it for me. I also like my PM3's better than the MDP's. I'm looking for an PM3/MDP upgrade, hence my interest in the T60RP's. But now, I'm looking at the MH Argons which seem to have more bass and tamer highs.

I might send mine to modhouse. ZMF pads are nice on them.

 

[JohnnyAppleseed]

I might send mine to modhouse. ZMF pads are nice on them.

Yes do it!! Do we know the extent of mods available for the T60RP at modhouse? Have you inquired about it yet? A fully "Argonized" T60RP would be so killer.

 

[ostewart]

Finally got my review up: http://www.soundperfectionreviews.com/2018/08/review-fostex-t60rp-marvellous-mahogany.html

 

[Artyouth]

Finally got my review up: http://www.soundperfectionreviews.com/2018/08/review-fostex-t60rp-marvellous-mahogany.html

Good review.
What you say about the T60 is very similar as what I hear. Except the comments about it's high.
I'm still think T60 have a hot, metalic high. If taped 2 baffle vents to tame it's high, I'm fully agree everythings on your review.

I think what's people don't like it and return them so soon is just becasue the sound signature matter. T60 actually have excellent sound quality on it's price range.

 

[omegaorgun]

Yeah, I put the mad dog pads on them. Comfort greatly improved, but the sound was about the same. To be fair, I find the MDP's to have somewhat harsh treble as well, but if I had to pick one, the MDP's were better for the same price. The wood cups were gorgeous though.

The creaking was so bad, I would have needed to return them anyway, so I decided to just return and not exchange. They actually sound very similar to my MDR-V6's with DT250 pads but at more than 3X the price, it wasn't worth it for me. I also like my PM3's better than the MDP's. I'm looking for an PM3/MDP upgrade, hence my interest in the T60RP's. But now, I'm looking at the MH Argons which seem to have more bass and tamer highs.

I think the Argon is superior but an Argonized T60RP intrigues me.

 

[kintsaki]

The T60-RP and the naked parade of granularity:

After lurking here for quiet some time, recent incidents have compelled me to register and write this up.

So I was out searching a pair of planars to complement my Hd650s. I'm trying to make a choice between Audeze or Focal models.. until I read this thread and sensed overall mixed reviews. After kintsaki's insightful comments and Zeos's intreguing video, I thought it would be a good idea to try the T60RP out for myself - I could always return them you know. So when Amazon got their new stock I pulled the trigger. These wooden beauties arrived last week.

Scenario 1: I have a Audioengine D1 DAC feeding into an Asgard2. I plug in the T60RP and my heart sank.. incredible imaging but piercing spikes and no bass. Classic Rock sounds super intimate and vocals are soul moving. I mostly listen to Metal and these cans sounded unfulfilling to my ears.. and EDM was no joy either. Perhaps it was my ears being used too much to the Hd650 sound. I was at that time contemplating if this investment was worth making just to listen to a few limited types of genres. The imaging was no doubt jaw-dropping but still fatiguing to my ears. I have inserted a thin sheet of paper napkins to control the spikes in upper frequencies. Mostly these cans are at the verge of going back.

Scenario 2: Shiit audio decided to finally send in my back-ordered Bifrost Multibit, yep that controversial Bimby. I figured I already had a great sounding sigma-delta and a galvanic isolating R2R wouldn't be a bad addition.. besides it would fit in nicely with my Asgard2- an amp I wouldn’t exchange for anything else.
Plug in the T60RP (Bimby->Asgard2) and What is going on!! Has to be the goddamn whisky! I unexpectedly witnessed a dramatic opening up of the soundstage - like an open back can, the ear piercing spikes are mellowed down - still there but not piercing anymore, every strum of the guitars, the vocal irregularities, every single hit on the snare and clink on the high hat and cymbals- are all being paraded Live and naked before me- with brutal granularity and mind-boggling imaging! I have not heard Metal sound so good and lively before. Also there is significant increase in Bass quality and quantity- it’s pulsating, tight and clean - this should only become better with modding. EDM too sounds good now- needs more subs though. I also hear better instrument separation now. By god it sounds so intimate. Chris Cornell made me weep the other day and Carcass and Maiden and Amon Amarth all have decided to play live in my room- on my command.

I’m totally mind blown at this point. And yeah it’s still on stock pads and unbalanced stock cables. I'll soon go for the recommended mods and get that bass slam.

I have been ABing different combination, with my limited knowledge and experience, for the past few days- and have concluded that the T60RP is indeed revealing and super sensitive to your setup.. no wonder everyone is having different experiences. IMHO the D1 (sigma-delta) perhaps makes them sound bright but the Bifrost (R2R) is clearly doing something different and the result is starkly evident... but then again Dacs are not supposed to matter? All I know it’s for real.

Though I concede that my impression is relative and limited to my setup, I think I have just tripped on an incredible pairing. I am looking out for any counter opinion from any of fellow head-fiers out there who have tried a similar pairing. Till then I will continue to rock with these wooden ninjas and hell yes they are staying with me for a very long time to come. They are such a good compliment to the HD650s- like night & day.

DAC does matter and it matters a lot, and so does the amp. When you upgrade sometime in the future you are going to be even more surprised by what the T60 can do. My recommendation of the best way to start upgrading is a USB purification system such as the ifi USB 3.0 Nano that will do a lot to the spikes and bass. It will also greatly enhance the Senn 650's (you will be surprised again).

After that you may consider ZMF pads and after that the Mayflower V3 mod for heavy bass for 60$. This mode comes with a choice of baffle foams for tuning it to your taste as many times as you like.
The increase in bass is quite significant. If you don't like any of the variations you can reverse it and write it off.

Eventually you will upgrade to a professional Speaker amp with a high damping factor capable of driving loads as low or lower than 2 ohms as required by planar magnetic and especially Fostex. Don't waste any money in the "balanced" band wagon. The increase in power is so little and so "weak" that it is insignificant for the T60 (a drop in the ocean).

Fostex says max power is 3 Watt RMS (25 Watt into 8 ohms) if you figure in a 6db headroom to avoid clipping you are up to 12 Watts peak. So now you need a 100 Watt RMS speaker amp.
We have been going up there routine. Both Zeos and DMS say you will need that kind of power.

Fostex also says in the fine print

" a constant zero output impedance amp across the entire audible frequency spectrum".

Well that is a pro audio amp like Crown, Cerwin Vega etc.

 

[omegaorgun]

I have pads like ZMF/Alpha/Impact. 4 sets if anyone is looking pm me. Unique design probably a once off.

 

[tolis626]

Just a quick stupid question. Anyone using these with a normal TRS 3.5mm cable? I mean, TRS on both ends, not just on one end. I suppose it'd be ok, but just asking out of curiosity for balanced cans in general.

Also, I'm really trying to not want to buy these. It's not like I can right now, but I may be able to in the near future. But I don't know if I can run them well off the Fiio Q1, and I sure can't get an amp too...

 

[omegaorgun]

Just a quick stupid question. Anyone using these with a normal TRS 3.5mm cable? I mean, TRS on both ends, not just on one end. I suppose it'd be ok, but just asking out of curiosity for balanced cans in general.

Also, I'm really trying to not want to buy these. It's not like I can right now, but I may be able to in the near future. But I don't know if I can run them well off the Fiio Q1, and I sure can't get an amp too...

Yes a normal trs will work fine.

 

[esauseesaw]

Just a quick stupid question. Anyone using these with a normal TRS 3.5mm cable? I mean, TRS on both ends, not just on one end. I suppose it'd be ok, but just asking out of curiosity for balanced cans in general.

Also, I'm really trying to not want to buy these. It's not like I can right now, but I may be able to in the near future. But I don't know if I can run them well off the Fiio Q1, and I sure can't get an amp too...

Take a look at the supplied cable. The socket in the headphone is designed to accept balanced so even the standard TRS 3.5mm cable has a balanced connector headphone end. If you plug this in the wrong way round it messes up the signal, I've tired. I don't have a non-Fostex one to try but it would be good it some can confirm it works ok TRS - TRS, it might not.

I haven't tried a Fiio Q1 but these do benefit from a bit of juice.

 

[omegaorgun]

Take a look at the supplied cable. The socket in the headphone is designed to accept balanced so even the standard TRS 3.5mm cable has a balanced connector headphone end. If you plug this in the wrong way round it messes up the signal, I've tired. I don't have a non-Fostex one to try but it would be good it some can confirm it works ok TRS - TRS, it might not.

I haven't tried a Fiio Q1 but these do benefit from a bit of juice.

I used the v-mods and I am pretty sure the the two negative poles just end up sharing the one line.

 

[jd666]

Mmmm shouldn't this fit the T60RP? https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Dyson-...990162?hash=item1a2fac98d2:g:PD4AAOSwcLxYHavm

Does anyone know if this is the correct pin layout? I assume there is a standard 3.5mm TRRS layout. The cable below is from a Chinese shop on ebay who make top stuff. He is wanting to clarify the pins.

Did you find out the correct TRRS pin layout? The pin layout in the japanese user manual (page 7) is different from the standard TRRS pin layout as mentioned by others.
https://www.fostex.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/T60RP_Users_Manual.pdf

P.S. I don't own a T60RP yet and promised myself that I would buy it only if I can make my own balanced cable.

 

[elira]

Does anyone has a frequency response graph for these headphones?

 

[arielext]

Take a look at the supplied cable. The socket in the headphone is designed to accept balanced so even the standard TRS 3.5mm cable has a balanced connector headphone end. If you plug this in the wrong way round it messes up the signal, I've tired. I don't have a non-Fostex one to try but it would be good it some can confirm it works ok TRS - TRS, it might not.

I haven't tried a Fiio Q1 but these do benefit from a bit of juice.

OT: made by a phone or camera?