For 6BL7 tube users
Aug 30, 2019 at 6:45 PM Post #556 of 608
Just show him the picture and explain that you have one socket and you want to put in two tubes in that socket.
I had the Darkvoice 336se before. It was my first tube headphone amp. The one that got me into a spiralling plunge into the rabbit hole of more tube amps.

The DV336se can use just one 6BL7 in the power slot but it will sound better with 2. If you use 2, then you need a dual 6BL7 to 6SN7 / 6AS7 adapter which I've tried before. The only problem is the DV336se is prone to tube hum and noise and such adapter might make it worst but you won't know till you try. Good luck and enjoy and be prepared to go further down the rabbit hole. :)
thanks...
That's who I bought it from...they talked me out of an adapter I picked, into one made for Darkvoice and then get an adapter that not only doesn't fit ....it's the wrong tube type altogether. SMH..
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 6:49 PM Post #557 of 608
I'm not making this up...now he's saying 6BL7 will not work for my Darkvoice....L M F A O!!!
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Aug 30, 2019 at 7:00 PM Post #558 of 608
Ok I only use the dual 6BL7 to 6AS7 for a short while. I have a concern if the transformer can handle 2 x 6BL7 which is 3 amperes. A single 6AS7 is 2.5 amperes.

So I can't really advice you to use 2 x 6BL7 until you check with the Darkvoice manufacturer. If in doubt play safe and get my Glenn Super 9 OTL amp that can take 6 x 6BL7 :)
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 7:02 PM Post #559 of 608
Ok I only use the dual 6BL7 to 6AS7 for a short while. I have a concern if the transformer can handle 2 x 6BL7 which is 3 amperes. A single 6AS7 is 2.5 amperes.

So I can't really advice you to use 2 x 6BL7 until you check with the Darkvoice manufacturer. If in doubt play safe and get my Glenn Super 9 OTL amp that can take 6 x 6BL7 :)
Half amp makes that much of a difference I guess, anybody here want two RCA 6bl7 tubes, have some I'm not using.
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 7:07 PM Post #560 of 608
Well try a single 6BL7 in the power slot. It ain't too bad. It has a lean tight tone whereas the 6as7 is full in body tone and has more bloom.
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 7:11 PM Post #561 of 608
Well try a single 6BL7 in the power slot. It ain't too bad. It has a lean tight tone whereas the 6as7 is full in body tone and has more bloom.
Thanks, sounds like you described a 6080 :D those tubes don't do the Darkvoice justice, it's either a 6as7 type or a 7236. Was hoping for some 6bl7 love... Still might do it just to hear it for 5 minutes and hope nothing explodes. I have to many tubes anyway, for a Darkvoice that is, it's only 2 slots.
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Aug 30, 2019 at 7:15 PM Post #562 of 608
I have use Tung Sol 5998 and GEC 6as7g in the DV336se power slot and it takes the amp to another level but those tubes alone cost more than the amp. Once that realisation sets in, you will want the bigger brother amp - La Figaro 339. :)
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 7:18 PM Post #563 of 608
I have use Tung Sol 5998 and GEC 6as7g in the DV336se power slot and it takes the amp to another level but those tubes alone cost more than the amp. Once that realisation sets in, you will want the bigger brother amp - La Figaro 339. :)
Yes, worth the coin on those tubes, I concur.
 
Aug 30, 2019 at 7:39 PM Post #565 of 608
Just looking for a dual 6BL7 adapter. My Darkvoice has the one 6AS7 socket, so a dual setup would be the cats meow. If I read this thread right I would need the dual setup to compensate the power output of one 6AS7 tube. Anyway, I got a hold of Dejan and he doesn't want to take my money because the 6BL7 will fit in a 6AS7 socket ....feeling like I'm on a merry go round... :D but I want a dual socket adapter....is that wrong? :frowning2:
Could you please ask the manufacture if you can use the dual 6BL7 on your amp? You may need two of these adapters (one for each half of the 6080/6as7g) if the amp can handle those.

OK, I didn't see your latest post.......

You gave her a neg. feedback anyway..................
 
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Aug 31, 2019 at 1:04 AM Post #567 of 608
Could you please ask the manufacture if you can use the dual 6BL7 on your amp? You may need two of these adapters (one for each half of the 6080/6as7g) if the amp can handle those.

OK, I didn't see your latest post.......

You gave her a neg. feedback anyway..................
I tried working it out, don't know who she is or who I was responding too, but when you buy a dual adapter 6BL7 to 6AS7, that's what you should get. Not a Dual 2293 to 6AS7 adapter, and then when you question them about it they say well the 6BL7 won't work on the Darkvoice. O.o It's labeled on their eBay page 6BL7 to 6AS7 Darkvoice!! Anyway, Not As Described and scammed. Oh well, done with it. IMG_20190830_215844.jpg
 
Aug 31, 2019 at 7:37 AM Post #568 of 608
I tried working it out, don't know who she is or who I was responding too, but when you buy a dual adapter 6BL7 to 6AS7, that's what you should get. Not a Dual 2293 to 6AS7 adapter, and then when you question them about it they say well the 6BL7 won't work on the Darkvoice. O.o It's labeled on their eBay page 6BL7 to 6AS7 Darkvoice!! Anyway, Not As Described and scammed. Oh well, done with it.
She tried to explain that your amp use half of the 6080/6as7gt per channel. One dual 6bl7 to 6as7 adapter works only as half of the 6as7 on your amp. Someone had used a dual 2293 to 6as7 on your amp before and reported successful story. She could be wrong. But I see some miscommunication here.

Good luck with your music advanture.
 
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Aug 31, 2019 at 10:15 AM Post #569 of 608
She tried to explain that your amp use half of the 6080/6as7gt per channel. One dual 6bl7 to 6as7 adapter works only as half of the 6as7 on your amp. Someone had used a dual 2293 to 6as7 on your amp before and reported successful story. She could be wrong. But I see some miscommunication here.

Good luck with your music advanture.
So this is getting weird, are you the vendor? And second there's no way a 6as7 can fit in those little 2293 sockets, which is what the 6Bl7 pins configuration are...6as7....not those tiny 2293 9pin holes. And this half story, two 6bl7 would still sound/act as one 6bl7? That's not what this thread has been saying. Why bother with the whole adapter thing if just one tube will output the same as a 6as7? And no my amp doesn't draw half of the 6as7 tube, it divides it, half to left the other half to right, add both and it's a whole. The 6bl7 is half of the 6as7, add two of those on an adapter you now have the same output as one 6as7.
 
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Aug 31, 2019 at 10:34 PM Post #570 of 608
Hi JKDJedi,
I am not familiar with the requirements for your amp and how it is wired. The 6AS7 draws 2.5A and the 6BL7 draws 1.5A so it is a little more for two tubes. In many amps the current draw is the total of all tubes. If the amp is rated for 4A as an example, you could use one 6SN7 (0.6A) and two 6BL7 (3A) for a total of 3.6A.
It should not be hard to find out from the manufacturer or fellow owners if you could use 2x6BL7 (3A) in the power socket, and what kind of adapter is needed.
If you were sent the wrong item, eBay will back you up and you should get a refund.
However, maybe this is an opportunity for you:
The A2293 is a GEC single triode drawing 0.95A, and people report good results with it. Having two of these is similar to one GEC 6AS7. The main reason for getting it is that the GEC 6AS7 is very expensive, and you can get similar performance with a pair of GEC A2293 which are considerable cheaper. A pair of A2293 could cost you around $30-40 shipped whereas a single GEC 6AS7/A1834 could run you well over $400.
Maybe something to think about?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-GEC-C...562461?hash=item1cd79e561d:g:VC0AAOSw11BdVqgf
There was a discussion on the Glenn OTL thread about using this tube, but for our purposes we would need multiples of 4, 8 or 12 and it looks like too complicated and expensive to implement; however, in your case you only need one pair.
 

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