Jul 27, 2023 at 5:04 PM Post #1,141 of 2,231
may be they are launching the new closed back and creating a demand for it, who knows
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:08 PM Post #1,143 of 2,231
I sent Mitch of AccurateSound.ca my 2022 Utopia to measure and develop some filters for. He also happens to have the 2000 Utopia and a DCA Expanse on hand.

He had this to say about them -

Attached is a preliminary before and after DSP for your Focal Utopia 2022 headphone, I also have a 2020 version here as well. Fantastic headphones. The 2022 sound clearer to me for some reason, both have vanishingly low amounts of distortion. They really have a quality of sound to them that the planars can’t seem to do. I wonder how much is the Beryllium material?

2022 really sounds fantastic. A bit on the bright side with some midrange issues, but the filter smooths them right out. I can’t get over how these sound!

I have a pair of DAC Expanse here as well. While they measure reasonably flat, a filter really linearizes the frequency response. But even though the 2022 Utopia and Expanse have a similar tonal response, the Utopia’s really have something special about them.

Focal Utopia 2022 frequency response Red measured Green corrected.jpg
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:42 PM Post #1,144 of 2,231
I received my Utopia 2022 on July 25th from Adorama and noticed that the package was unsealed. Moreover, I found some flaws, scratches, and signs of usage (possibly) on the headphones. I didn't pay attention to the clamp force because I don't own other headphones. If anyone else has encountered the same issue, please post here for further notice or action.

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Jul 28, 2023 at 11:50 PM Post #1,145 of 2,231
I received my Utopia 2022 on July 25th and noticed that the package was unsealed. Moreover, I found some flaws, scratches, and signs of usage (possibly) on the headphones. I didn't pay attention to the clamp force because I don't own other headphones. If anyone else has encountered the same issue, please post here for further notice or action.

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Is this also from the Adorama batch?
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:55 PM Post #1,146 of 2,231
I received my Utopia 2022 on July 25th from Adorama and noticed that the package was unsealed. Moreover, I found some flaws, scratches, and signs of usage (possibly) on the headphones. I didn't pay attention to the clamp force because I don't own other headphones. If anyone else has encountered the same issue, please post here for further notice or action.

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Where did you get this from?
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:55 PM Post #1,147 of 2,231
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:56 PM Post #1,148 of 2,231
I sent Mitch of AccurateSound.ca my 2022 Utopia to measure and develop some filters for. He also happens to have the 2000 Utopia and a DCA Expanse on hand.

He had this to say about them -

Attached is a preliminary before and after DSP for your Focal Utopia 2022 headphone, I also have a 2020 version here as well. Fantastic headphones. The 2022 sound clearer to me for some reason, both have vanishingly low amounts of distortion. They really have a quality of sound to them that the planars can’t seem to do. I wonder how much is the Beryllium material?

2022 really sounds fantastic. A bit on the bright side with some midrange issues, but the filter smooths them right out. I can’t get over how these sound!


I have a pair of DAC Expanse here as well. While they measure reasonably flat, a filter really linearizes the frequency response. But even though the 2022 Utopia and Expanse have a similar tonal response, the Utopia’s really have something special about them.

Focal Utopia 2022 frequency response Red measured Green corrected.jpg
Do you know if this person has the raw measurement? The measured graph is based on some base compensation curve and it‘s not clear which standard curve this person used.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:57 PM Post #1,149 of 2,231
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:57 PM Post #1,150 of 2,231
Yes, you got it. This is an unpleasant unboxing experience.
I guess this explains the price. I figured they were B-stock or something. They should be up-front about stuff like this.
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:58 PM Post #1,151 of 2,231
I received my Utopia 2022 on July 25th and noticed that the package was unsealed. Moreover, I found some flaws, scratches, and signs of usage (possibly) on the headphones. I didn't pay attention to the clamp force because I don't own other headphones. If anyone else has encountered the same issue, please post here for further notice or action.

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da6ec4898647b97d098dd3226d545aff.jpg
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Either B stock or Open Box hp.
That's why they tricked you with cheap price.
Final Sale?
 
Jul 28, 2023 at 11:58 PM Post #1,152 of 2,231
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:01 AM Post #1,153 of 2,231
Do you know if this person has the raw measurement? The measured graph is based on some base compensation curve and it‘s not clear which standard curve this person used.
I'm not sure about the compensation curve he used on the graph, but he did take the measurements himself so I assume he has the raw measurements. You can read about this filters at https://accuratesound.ca/headphone-calibration. He will create a page for the Utopia and write more about his measurements when they're published here https://accuratesound.ca/store/#_filter
 
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:01 AM Post #1,154 of 2,231
I received my Utopia 2022 on July 25th from Adorama and noticed that the package was unsealed. Moreover, I found some flaws, scratches, and signs of usage (possibly) on the headphones. I didn't pay attention to the clamp force because I don't own other headphones. If anyone else has encountered the same issue, please post here for further notice or action.

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These definitely look like a used pair. Though the marks on the carbon fiber headband are normal, it’s a composite of recycled carbon fiber. Also the clamp force on the 2022 seem looser than original Utopia.

On the leather areas you have circled, would you mind explaining what you are seeing?
 
Jul 29, 2023 at 12:02 AM Post #1,155 of 2,231
This is why you need to buy Focal from a dealer you know and trust will back you up and work with Focal when things go wrong - Amazon and Adorama are not that kind of dealer.
 
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