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Headphoneus Supremus
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I do have a good feeling the Utopia will sound great based on toxicity level of the tweeter. All best things in life are usually hazardous to your body. .
Are you suggesting health effects when using the Focal headphones?
I think this fear is legitimate if the enclosure does not protect the Beryllium from contact with corrosive material. Say, some's perspiration. In such cases, just how much acidic sweat can alter the stability of the processed Beryllium is the unknown,
Do you (or anyone here) have the user manual for the Focal Utopia headphone?
Like to see the health warning there, if any.
paul
The User Manual for the Focal Diablo Speaker is can be downloaded at http://www.focal.com/en/index.php?controller=attachment&id_attachment=4170
It uses Beryllium tweeters and there is a warning on Page 14 of the manual about Beryllium. The warning says:
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tl;dr This continued beryllium debate is ridiculous. Let's focus on the sound of these modern design headphones and stop propagating an unfounded fear.
Self responsibility is the last resort of the scoundrel. In that case let's not have barriers on balconies. It's obvious to a person that they will fall to their deaths if they step over the edge so there's no need to have a barrier *sarcasm* It doesn't remove the duty of care that rests with the manufacturer to make their products safe. There is no accounting for human idiocy but a manufacturer has a duty at law to ensure that their products are safe. I don't doubt that Focal as a reputable manufacturer has met those standards. However, just look at all the product recalls that consumers are hit with regularly. Also look at the recent death airbag recalls and Toyota recalls. What concerns me is that beryllium is deadly and I am worried about that. If you are trusting (institutional trust) then by all means just take their word for it. However, when it's such a toxic material I would like to hear more than "it's safe" and instead hear, "it's safe because we've extensively tested it for those conditions". A manufacturer doesn't have to explain, at least to a consumer, but it would go a long way if it did.
Self responsibility is the last resort of the scoundrel. In that case let's not have barriers on balconies. It's obvious to a person that they will fall to their deaths if they step over the edge so there's no need to have a barrier *sarcasm* It doesn't remove the duty of care that rests with the manufacturer to make their products safe. There is no accounting for human idiocy but a manufacturer has a duty at law to ensure that their products are safe. I don't doubt that Focal as a reputable manufacturer has met those standards. However, just look at all the product recalls that consumers are hit with regularly. Also look at the recent death airbag recalls and Toyota recalls. What concerns me is that beryllium is deadly and I am worried about that. If you are trusting (institutional trust) then by all means just take their word for it. However, when it's such a toxic material I would like to hear more than "it's safe" and instead hear, "it's safe because we've extensively tested it for those conditions". A manufacturer doesn't have to explain, at least to a consumer, but it would go a long way if it did.
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Well that reminds me of messages like this nuclear reactor is safe so shut up about being worried that we're installing it in your back yard, or that fracking doesn't cause ground water contamination. Point being is that this isn't going to be effective at dispelling these kinds of concerns, research, experimentation, data, official legal statements from the vendor, etc would do this. I don't see any reason not to ask these questions. Someone is spending a lot of money on a toy. I find the points MooMooMoooo raises very interesting. They could be the greatest sounding headphones ever but your health is always worth more than the latest fad or gadget.
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Here's another contrived scenario. You're driving in a car with your new fancy headphones and get in a wreck. What if you're headphones are destroyed and you're trapped in your vehicle waiting on rescue... Or the kid or the dog gets a hold of them and tries to tear them up. I'm not saying it will happen but consider the possibility. I know nobody wants to find fault in the headphones but trying to shush people up on it is the wrong approach IMO. If you're not at all concerned about any potential risk you've either put in an order or you're saving to place your order soon.