[huimun]

whatever it is,i hope it reaches its final sound signature asap

 

[jinx20001]

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Originally Posted by toughnut /img/forum/go_quote.gif I think crossover or cable burn in might explain the changes i experience. But it might be just my brain after all.

yeh its your brain, crossover burn in is un-noticeable, same for cable burn in, i believe this is a myth myself as any burn in on the cable would take years, in which time it should get worse due to oxidisation, and crossover burn in is jive really.

and we all know balanced armatures dont change. how many professional manufacturers have to tell us this to believe it??

 

[xz123]

I don't want to sound "smarty-pantsy", but, though lacking the words, I felt the urge to post something similar.
Especially as people experience the same acclimatisation effects on used cables, used balanced driver earphones (and often dynamic driver earphones or speakers, too), etc. So I guess it's just the need to get used to a new and different sound signature.

I personally loved my tf10 from the beginning and can't recall having experienced a huge amount of change in sound.

 

[MetroBBOY]

Im in the same boat as xz123. They sounded fantastic out of the box. I use and unamped iPod Touch 2G, with EQ off.

I would certainly be happier if the sound signature did develop over time, nevertheless im content.

 

[MetroBBOY]

Can anyone confirm if the Flip Flop mod works well with the Black Shure Olives? I just tried with the Comply tips and they sound horrible with them!

The angle of the tip is obviously being affected as the basses are fine but the mids & highs are drastically appalling...

 

[toughnut]

I'm using both olive and comply, no major differences or degradation in SQ, either normal or flip method. I stick it straight, sitting on my ear canal.

 

[toughnut]

Btw, once i decore the olive, i put it straight to the bore without any tubing. I pulled it till the rear of the tip reach as far as possible, nearly touching the main body of triples. The olive tip only 1-2mm from the nozzle.

 

[MetroBBOY]

Sounds great. I just acquired some Olives to test. Your method sounds simple enough. How secure are they on the nozzle toughnut? *without the core*

 

[toughnut]

A bit tight since the olive a bit elastic. Carefully pull it back till the end of the nozzle using fingernail. It hardly move or rotate once fitted

 

[MetroBBOY]

I have a super sharp scalpel so that may be the more precise option...

 

[toughnut]

I only use fingernail and 5 sec to decore each olive

 

[hockeyb213]

I used a sharp flat head screw driver and it took 10 seconds but I prefer just the comply's for now. Next test will be custom tips.

 

[MagicX]

Just another flip flop pic in case anyone wants or needs one to see what it looks like. Using the double flange tips and have a perfect seal that stays sealed and is quite comfortable, moreso than the comfort I had using my SF5 Pros. Also, I'm not noticing the highs being rolled off.

 

[toughnut]

Actually i managed to push it in even deeper

Regarding the rolled off high, i think u misread. tf10 among the few iems with most extended high, to some extend some people called it artificial lol.

 

[mogata]

Trying the flip flop myself for the first time. I ,too, find that I can insert the tips in a little deeper.

On another note, I ordered a Null Audio Studio Enyo silver cable, anyone have one of these? Any idea how long they take to deliver?