[boodi]

First or second week Jan.

Do you have both rn6 and xe6? Which one you favoring with r8II?

 

[gLer]

Do you have both rn6 and xe6? Which one you favoring with r8II?

Yes I have both and will include both in the review. I haven't started testing either of them with R8 II yet. Too much gear to get through this holiday season...while everyone else is on the beach

 

[boodi]

I wait then ok..very curious..

 

[boodi]

One thing that bugs me and I' d need still to understand (xe6 owners) is if the kinetic bass effect changes dramatically ( like on/off) when you get the proper position or seal for it..

or if is it there a way to know if it is working as intended or not

For anyone i stressed here and trying to help in pm tooafter genres and songs and wanderings, I found some ways to test kinetic bass , >it is working as supposed.

I feel lucky xe6 user : experiencing the whole experience of them


I may know where some people that were feeling them muddy/mushy/ congested or not consistent for details were " stuck "
My ciem xe6 nozzles can seal a little in , in earcanal, or ~1cm deep in earcanal.
The difference for mids separation and stageing is there , 'night and day' wouldn't be exaggerating

 

[boodi]

ps they are *great* allrounder (and rock rocks with them of course and rocks deeply in - from classics to modern nothing is excluded!.. but an orchestra piece coming on shuffle just after rises some brain alerts)

 

[boodi]

Not only I am kinetic bass aware( and happy ) i clearly see ( hear) the difference with my bcd experience too.

 

[boodi]

Ps separation on xe6 is *outstanding* .. no parts melting on heavy passages , and on those passages ( tech or prog metal? Just i.e. ) drums parts are clear and superbly intelligible and separated

in 'Pimpf' from Depeche Mode which is a stunning and quality recording from '80 , apart from that piano notes and barrel drum at intro are both breathtaking, there are chorus voices overlapping symphonic parts and synths , and it becomes quite crowdy at ends , a passage that some chain or headphones fail to render in its magnificence , on xe6 everything keeps being rendered clearly until the very end : well separated and respectfully to their timber and volume

I am telling this as someone said me xe6 were congested on his listenings ..

 

[emdeevee]

Ps separation on xe6 is *outstanding* .. no parts melting on heavy passages , and on those passages ( tech or prog metal? Just i.e. ) drums parts are clear and superbly intelligible and separated

in 'Pimpf' from Depeche Mode which is a stunning and quality recording from '80 , apart from that piano notes and barrel drum at intro are both breathtaking, there are chorus voices overlapping symphonic parts and synths , and it becomes quite crowdy at ends , a passage that some chain or headphones fail to render in its magnificence , on xe6 everything keeps being rendered clearly until the very end : well separated and respectfully to their timber and volume

I am telling this as someone said me xe6 were congested on his listenings ..

I agree with you but these are matters of subjective taste. Some people don't like that wall of sound, while clearly many do. Extra points for Pimpf, I thought I was the only one who remembered that song!

 

[el-jorge]

You guys really make me want to buy the XE6. I already have the RN6, and absolutely love it for its transparency stage combined with great bass. Would the XE6 be too much of the same?

 

[boodi]

You guys really make me want to buy the XE6. I already have the RN6, and absolutely love it for its transparency stage combined with great bass. Would the XE6 be too much of the same?

I don't have rn6
I wouldn't call xe6 extremely transparent
I would call them extremely analogue and physical , this invests a wide range of instruments ( guitars drums bass strings winds..voices are real-tone and more then other iems , and I like them - they may lack the lips hidden reverbs that Jewel offer but the tone is more lifelike..) .
You won't feel them 'transparent'..but in my humble music /listener career i never felt a concert and live exhibition 'transparent'..sure some speakers or headphones may sound like that , among other characters. Something i often or always ear in real life if I stop and analyze a sound , is the analogue sensation of it ( all sounds or so, not music in particular ) , and xe6 nails it, or carry it with them if you prefer , quite a thing and different then other iems.
Holography in xe6 is definitely a thing too . The kinetic bass ( physical bass sense ) is definitely a thing - and not overdone.

I have no need for more bass. Or for changing to another signature ( RN6 i.e. ).
I have CIEM though and this may play a role in sound signature connection and satisfatcion.

Someone other with RN6 and XE6 will serve you better then me eventually.

 

[twister6]

Ps separation on xe6 is *outstanding* .. no parts melting on heavy passages , and on those passages ( tech or prog metal? Just i.e. ) drums parts are clear and superbly intelligible and separated

in 'Pimpf' from Depeche Mode which is a stunning and quality recording from '80 , apart from that piano notes and barrel drum at intro are both breathtaking, there are chorus voices overlapping symphonic parts and synths , and it becomes quite crowdy at ends , a passage that some chain or headphones fail to render in its magnificence , on xe6 everything keeps being rendered clearly until the very end : well separated and respectfully to their timber and volume

I am telling this as someone said me xe6 were congested on his listenings ..

That someone *cough* me *cough* was referring to a specific pair up synergy with R8ii which is a warmer source To my ears, the L-shaped tuned uni XE6 has a denser sound and while going to its custom version improves the mids with more clarity due to a deeper insertion which brings high BA in the nozzle closer to my eardrums, and then going to RN6 improves the lower mids even more. People will hear things differently due to their sound preference, variation of hearing ability, earcanal anatomy, other IEMs they heard, type of music they are listening to, etc. So, take it as a single data point. Per our PM discussion, if you enjoyed XE6 with your other warm M8 source, you should be fine with R8ii which is a bit less warmer in tonality.

 

[OhmsClaw]

You guys really make me want to buy the XE6. I already have the RN6, and absolutely love it for its transparency stage combined with great bass. Would the XE6 be too much of the same?

I'm a sneak EE fan boy but you can't go wrong. They genuinely have their place, I just prefer some weapon IX/X action .

I listen to all sorts of classic rock, Kpop, hip-hop, acoustic... anddddddd been listening to Trance and House music for 20 years. That's what the Nemesis/Legend X/EVO was/is for. That's what the XE6 excels at. Both bass monsters are also very sophisticated and can do anything you throw at them, but they are a special treat. Best part is, you can listen to the same stuff over and over again with different presentations.

Only tip, don't use the gold on the Rn6 to make it something it's not (an Xe6) really trades far too much imo vs red/black/silver atoms.

 

[boodi]

That someone *cough* me *cough* was referring to a specific pair up synergy with R8ii which is a warmer source To my ears, the L-shaped tuned uni XE6 has a denser sound and while going to its custom version improves the mids with more clarity due to a deeper insertion which brings high BA in the nozzle closer to my eardrums, and then going to RN6 improves the lower mids even more. People will hear things differently due to their sound preference, variation of hearing ability, earcanal anatomy, other IEMs they heard, type of music they are listening to, etc. So, take it as a single data point. Per our PM discussion, if you enjoyed XE6 with your other warm M8 source, you should be fine with R8ii which is a bit less warmer in tonality.

That someone *caugh* is not only you*caugh*

 

[Auricon]

You guys really make me want to buy the XE6. I already have the RN6, and absolutely love it for its transparency stage combined with great bass. Would the XE6 be too much of the same?

Nah, XE6 isn't much of the same and I consider RN6, a reference wam retuned XE6.

XE6's signature is complimentary to RN6 with a warmer, "fuller" mid bass to lower midrange. Upper mids and treble tuning surprisingly rises through its fullness. With stock cable, it's a specialist and relaxing listening IEM. You'll want to spend sometime auditioning it – you'll either click right away or find it's not for you. If you're into cable rolling, you can shift its signature – such as thinning its mid bass to improve instrument separation, clarity and details while maintain XE6's special sauce.

I enjoy both – some days I'm in the mood for critical listening, I'll grab RN6 – other days, late night unwinding with XE6, favorite beverage and downtempo tunes.

 

[boodi]

. Per our PM discussion, if you enjoyed XE6 with your other warm M8 source, you should be fine with R8ii which is a bit less warmer in tonality

I am trying something that synergies better with xe6 then m8 ( warm and a bit slow ), valuing your advice against sp3k and r8II /and someone other for m9+ and lpgt -which I was asking you about , too,
i am more inclined towards these last two daps