[maxedfx]

EGD is now available.

http://www.stoneracoustics.com/EGD

USD$450. LH Labs already has all of my money, so someone else will have to do it.

Not quite yet! Clicking the buy now link goes to another coming soon page!

 

[rigo]

But its USB powered, isn't it?

Will this limit the quality of it? Considering this to pair with the LC, but not knowledgeable enough about the limitations of a USB powered DAC.

 

[Stillhart]

Looks like Emotiva is having a big sale right now.  The DC-1 is $100 off (20%) right now for a total of $399.
 
http://emotiva.com/products/dacs/electronics/dacs/stealth-dc-1

 

[drgajet]

Great deal but I'm still going to try the mojo first.

 

[jarnopp]

Great deal but I'm still going to try the mojo first.

This thread needs its mojo back! Full time job keeping up with the Mojo thread, but do we know what input voltage the LC will accept? Mojo has a 3v "fixed line out" mode but Chord also said you can set the volume buttons to both cyan.and get about 2v. Which would be better/safer?

 

[cloudkicker]

The Yellowtec PUC2 looks like a good option. It's highly rated as a USB converter. I haven't seen much on the DAC.

 

[rigo]

Not quite yet! Clicking the buy now link goes to another coming soon page!

Now it's available.

 

[Deftone]

This thread needs its mojo back! Full time job keeping up with the Mojo thread, but do we know what input voltage the LC will accept? Mojo has a 3v "fixed line out" mode but Chord also said you can set the volume buttons to both cyan.and get about 2v. Which would be better/safer?

yeah but you arent getting a true dac output it will be double amped
 
3 flavours instead of 2
 
im sure the mojo uses an amp/dac in a single chip similar to sonys smaster hx where the amp is the dac the dac is the amp.
 
hey i could be wrong feel free to beat me with a stick

 
personaly i wouldnt like to double amp on a liquid carbon!

 

[zachawry]

I'll be "double-amping" the output of my Hugo, which I think is the same architecture as the Mojo. 
 
The amp on these units is so transparent that it really doesn't matter. 
 
If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Cavalli used a Hugo to feed his Liquid Carbons at audio shows. 

 

[mscott58]

I'll be "double-amping" the output of my Hugo, which I think is the same architecture as the Mojo. 

The amp on these units is so transparent that it really doesn't matter. 

If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Cavalli used a Hugo to feed his Liquid Carbons at audio shows. 

He has at times. Good stuff.

 

[x RELIC x]

Mojo has lower THD than Hugo (Hugo 0.0004% vs Mojo 0.00017%). There is no amp in the Mojo or Hugo, it's just the analogue section from the DAC and it's very clean.

 

[zachawry]

Mojo has lower THD than Hugo (Hugo 0.0004% vs Mojo 0.00017%). There is no amp in the Mojo or Hugo, it's just the analogue section from the DAC and it's very clean.

Yeah, I wish I understood that. 

 

[sahmen]

Mojo has lower THD than Hugo (Hugo 0.0004% vs Mojo 0.00017%). There is no amp in the Mojo or Hugo, it's just the analogue section from the DAC and it's very clean.

No amp in the Hugo or Mojo?  Then why do they call both DAC and Headphone amps...?  Also the Chord electronics site actually touts the power of the amp in the Mojo:
 
"Inside Mojo is a massively powerful headphone amplifier that will deliver crystal clear audio whether you use in-ear buds or large studio cans, it will even play almost any audio file that you can find, up to 768kHz 32bit, and quad DSD 256."
 
That is from here:
 
http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/mojo/#nav-features
 
I am not trying to be rude.  I am just trying to understand your claim, because my knowledge of such technicalities are limited, especially, where you say "it's just the analogue section from the DAC."   Thanks.

 

[x RELIC x]

I understand the confusion, but it's not a claim, it's just how the devices are designed. The interesting thing about the Hugo and Mojo is the DAC drives headphones directly from the DACs analogue output (Digital to Analogue Converter) and there is no output via a separate headphone amp. This provides the unlimited in signal accuracy. This is very welcomed as the DAC in both units is very accurate and very capable.

Rob Watts, the designer of the units has posted many times regarding the headphone output design and capability from the DAC. You can read Rob's take on the tech behind the Hugo in this post:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/702787/chord-hugo/1830#post_10459450

Of note is his comments in item # 3 that he lists. In it he says:

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3. The lack of DAC RF OP noise means that the analogue section can be made radically simpler as the analogue filter requirements are smaller. Now in analogue terms, making it simpler, with everything else being constant, gives more transparency. You really can hear every solder joint, every passive component, and every active stage. Now Hugo has a single active stage - a very high performance op-amp with a discrete op-stage as a hybrid with a single global feedback path. This arrangement means that you have a single active stage, two resistors and two capacitors in the direct signal path - and that is it. Note: there is no headphone drive. Normal high performance DAC's have 3 op-amp stages, followed by a separate headphone amp. So to conclude - Hugo's analogue path is not a simple couple of op-amps chucked together, it is fundamentally simpler than all other headphone amp solutions.


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All that said I am interested in how the Mojo pairs with the Liquid Carbon.

 

[defbear]

Looks like Emotiva is having a big sale right now.  The DC-1 is $100 off (20%) right now for a total of $399.

http://emotiva.com/products/dacs/electronics/dacs/stealth-dc-1

I paid $450 during their summer sale. I really enjoy mine. It sounds better than my Bifrost uber for sure. It also sounds better than the dac in my hdvd800 amp. It's "final pairing" will be with the LC.