[Levanter]

Kind of heavy on your neck though, carrying those suckers around.  Gonna use gaffer's tape to hold them on?

I already have a few ciems and iems. I don't need 5 or 10 of them just for a "different sound signature".

 

[Dezeinstein]

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Aren't we done with this yet?  It's Xmas, can't we give it a day off?  :bigsmile_face:

Here, try this:  

Is that a balanced cable?

 

[Mython]

Is that a balanced cable?

 
Depends how you hold it

 

 

[headwhacker]

On my wish list:
Sound quality better then X5 +E12DIY with the configuration of E12a and Silmic capacitors
Low impedance to drive my AKG K3003 with 8 Ohms
Enough power to drive my Audeze LCD-2
Battery live time ~10h
USB 3.0
Tiny thumbnails with cover.jpg when open a folder
Physical volume knop like the first preview image

not on wishlist:
Ability to handle 30.000 mp3 files
Shuffle play
Wifi or bluetooth
I mean, keep it simple and do it well. I wouldn't spend my money for gimmicks, i prefer a high-end sound mashine for HiRes files, no less, no more!

 
X5 can already do the ones highlighted in bold. USB 3.0 not much use in audio and only good for faster data transfer from PC to DAP. Sound quality is very subjective especially about being "better". Tiny thumbnails is just software fix.
 
Except for the volume knob I guess you already found what you want with X5.

 

 

[olddude]

Is that a balanced cable?

Why yes, yes it is.

 

[Ripvanlink]

X5 can already do the ones highlighted in bold. USB 3.0 not much use in audio and only good for faster data transfer from PC to DAP. Sound quality is very subjective especially about being "better". Tiny thumbnails is just software fix.

Except for the volume knob I guess you already found what you want with X5. :tongue_smile:  

 

[Ripvanlink]

USB speed would somewhat mAke balance for lack of extra storage space, no? And perhaps take up less space than extra mSat port?

 

[Ripvanlink]

That's only a guess mind , Comments?

 

[kenz]

The more components introduced in a system, the more complex it gets.
 
adding external storage means more battery to power an additional external component?
data cable connector speed (reading the external storage) if slow, affects sound quality? (not all USB cables are made equal)
 
all sorts of stuff starts coming in, and harder to troubleshoot, if any issues arise from such a "stack".

 

[x RELIC x]

On my wish list:
Sound quality better then X5 +E12DIY with the configuration of E12a and Silmic capacitors
Low impedance to drive my AKG K3003 with 8 Ohms
Enough power to drive my Audeze LCD-2
Battery live time ~10h
USB 3.0
Tiny thumbnails with cover.jpg when open a folder
Physical volume knop like the first preview image

not on wishlist:
Ability to handle 30.000 mp3 files
Shuffle play
Wifi or bluetooth

I mean, keep it simple and do it well. I wouldn't spend my money for gimmicks, i prefer a high-end sound mashine for HiRes files, no less, no more!

X5 can already do the ones highlighted in bold............. [snip]

Off topic but I can say the X5 has a hard time driving the LCD-2. Not subjective at all. They simply need more power to sound the way they are designed. If someone thinks they sound good straight from the X5 they are missing out.

 

[headwhacker]

Off topic but I can say the X5 has a hard time driving the LCD-2. Not subjective at all. They simply need more power to sound the way they are designed. If someone thinks they sound good straight from the X5 they are missing out.

You are right it's off topic. But I'm interested at the exact conditions you did the comparison. e.g blind, level-matched etc.

 

[x RELIC x]

You are right it's off topic. But I'm interested at the exact conditions you did the comparison. e.g blind, level-matched etc.

PM sent.

 

[alnilam]

Apparently, with the introduction of Android+apps in X7 audio player FiiO decided to venture deeper into the 'convergence territory', or to go iPod Touch way, so to speak.
 
But, in that smartphone/tablet/media player convergence territory there are already quite a few serious players, like for example Sony (sort of Apple-of-Android-world).
 
When X7 starts selling, I would be very curious to compare it to Sony Xperia Z3 - sound quality first, and then 'convergence quality' too, why not.
 
Also, under the 'competition in convergence territory' angle, something tells me that perhaps either mSATA, or more likely m.2 SATA (NGFF) storage option/slot may not necessarily be completely out of the question (yeah right FiiO says it is, but who can blame them, if they suddenly change their mind, stranger things have happened).
 


left - mSATA, right - m.2 SATA (NGFF)

 

[headwhacker]

Fiio already confirmed that X7 will not run the same app-base as full android. Only enough apps that is audio/music related. So I don't think convergeance will happen as you are saying. I think it will be a mistake. Fiio has done good with the software side but it's a different league when you talk about full-blown Android.

If msata has a future in portables it must come out from the bigger android/ios market.

Niche market like DAPs run by small company like Fiio is a huge gamble. Especially it's the component with the least impact on sound.

 

[Ripvanlink]

Fiio already confirmed that X7 will not run the same app-base as full android. Only enough apps that is audio/music related. So I don't think convergeance will happen as you are saying. I think it will be a mistake. Fiio has done good with the software side but it's a different league when you talk about full-blown Android.

If msata has a future in portables it must come out from the bigger android/ios market.

Niche market like DAPs run by small company like Fiio is a huge gamble. Especially it's the component with the least impact on sound.

I'm thinking that if you had a chance to listen to the K10 with the X5, such an idea, though possible, would not come quite as easily to You.I'd venture to say you'd gain more respect for the dap side of the equation as I Have.