[seeteeyou]

And yet manufacturers build boards with the 660 that offer m.2 (using pci-e).
https://www.winmate.com/Product/IQ30

LOL, the keywords turned out to be SATA and USB

https://www.winmate.com/product/export/IQ30

SATA 1 x M.2 (PCIe Signal With USB)

IMHO that's merely a single claim from a random manufacturer while nobody else could tap PCIe outta Snapdragon 660

http://linuxgizmos.com/snapdragon-660-module-has-tiny-lga-form-factor/
http://linuxgizmos.com/android-dev-kit-taps-new-octa-core-snapdragon-660/
http://linuxgizmos.com/pico-itx-sbc-has-octa-core-snapdragon-660-and-optional-poe-and-cam-modules/

See the differences between the two here?

https://www.electronics-lab.com/tiny-compute-modules-features-snapdragon-845-snapdragon-660/

Spoiler

Could PCIe be found here?

https://www.thundercomm.com/app_en/product/1545390300740634

Spoiler

How about here?

https://www.thundercomm.com/app_en/product/1552390171781758

Spoiler

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Basically anyone could add M.2 via USB 2 or 3 just like this

https://www.argon40.com/argon-one-m-2-case-for-raspberry-pi-4.html

Though it's gonna limit the speed to either 480 Mbps or 5 Gbps since that's somewhat similar to another example below

https://www.electronics-lab.com/nan...net-router-comes-32-bit-64-bit-arm-processor/

The company has now added a USB to Gigabit Ethernet bridge to their latest NanoPi R1S board meaning it’s now a dual Gigabit Ethernet SBC, but with the caveat that the port behind the USB bridge is limited to USB 2.0 speed (480 Mbps), and with overhead the USB Ethernet bandwidth is around 330 Mbps.

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Now let's just assume that whatever unicorn magic dust-covered PCIe could actually be tapped from an "extra-special edition" of Snapdragon 660 SoC, how far could Android mobile devices get with NVMe storage options via USB?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarde...ion_acces_m2_nvme_drive_on_android_with_usbc/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/support-for-external-nvme-to-usb-c-gen2-enclosures.3951862/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/how-to-get-a-m-2-nvme-to-usb-3-1-gen-2-enclosure-to-work-with-android.2579635/

Does it look like fun or what? Maybe it would be even more fun if we weren't really having (the luxury of) yet another external power source?

 

[Whitigir]

Yeah, so 3 batteries :
1/ for ssd and nvme
2/ Amp
3/ DAC

 

[DarginMahkum]

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[Battlefier]

That is what I really like about FiiO. @JamesFiiO just sent this on facebook, asking users their opinion about the optical output port. Here is the link:

https://www.facebook.com/chung.james.92/posts/3742616695846372

Not sure how take it as they seem to already have taken the answer..

"As for using a 3.5 optical output port, we finally gave it up considering cable compatibility and users' demand for the optical output function is not so strong. Therefore, the bottom ports of the M17 finally took Solution A."

 

[DarginMahkum]

Not sure how take it as they seem to already have taken the answer..

"As for using a 3.5 optical output port, we finally gave it up considering cable compatibility and users' demand for the optical output function is not so strong. Therefore, the bottom ports of the M17 finally took Solution A."

Right. I was too late.

 

[Nixdmon]

Will this support MQA X16 unfold? Please say yes and we have a deal.

 

[lostinthesauce]

LOL, the keywords turned out to be SATA and USB

https://www.winmate.com/product/export/IQ30


IMHO that's merely a single claim from a random manufacturer while nobody else could tap PCIe outta Snapdragon 660

http://linuxgizmos.com/snapdragon-660-module-has-tiny-lga-form-factor/
http://linuxgizmos.com/android-dev-kit-taps-new-octa-core-snapdragon-660/
http://linuxgizmos.com/pico-itx-sbc-has-octa-core-snapdragon-660-and-optional-poe-and-cam-modules/

See the differences between the two here?

https://www.electronics-lab.com/tiny-compute-modules-features-snapdragon-845-snapdragon-660/

Spoiler

Could PCIe be found here?

https://www.thundercomm.com/app_en/product/1545390300740634

Spoiler

How about here?

https://www.thundercomm.com/app_en/product/1552390171781758

Spoiler

---

Basically anyone could add M.2 via USB 2 or 3 just like this

https://www.argon40.com/argon-one-m-2-case-for-raspberry-pi-4.html

Though it's gonna limit the speed to either 480 Mbps or 5 Gbps since that's somewhat similar to another example below

https://www.electronics-lab.com/nan...net-router-comes-32-bit-64-bit-arm-processor/

---

Now let's just assume that whatever unicorn magic dust-covered PCIe could actually be tapped from an "extra-special edition" of Snapdragon 660 SoC, how far could Android mobile devices get with NVMe storage options via USB?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarde...ion_acces_m2_nvme_drive_on_android_with_usbc/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/support-for-external-nvme-to-usb-c-gen2-enclosures.3951862/
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/how-to-get-a-m-2-nvme-to-usb-3-1-gen-2-enclosure-to-work-with-android.2579635/

Does it look like fun or what? Maybe it would be even more fun if we weren't really having (the luxury of) yet another external power source?

Alright; we agree that manufacturer implemented it. It's not native but it's implemented.

I've also conceded that the speed increase from using nvme isn't important in a previous post. My wish for it is rather capacity.

As your posts indicate an individual who is combative and and interested in scoring internet gotcha posts I'll humbly submit to your obvious intellectual superiority that Fiio could in no way, shape, or form, graft nvme or other higher capacity storage onto the Snapdragon 660 and will disbelieve my lying eyes that any manufacturer can do it.

I sincerely wish that my feigned cowering under the blustering non-refutation of facts satiated your need for validation of the inflated self worth that clearly exposes a Dunning-Krueger effect.

 

[Whitigir]

Will this support MQA X16 unfold? Please say yes and we have a deal.

Es9038Pro isn’t native MQA, it would fall back on either the SOC or FPGA chips under this scenario.
If the player uses any powerful SOC like 660 or newer then it is no problem

 

[DarginMahkum]

I cannot wait to see the day the MQA dies the most horrible death ever. It annoys me that much. Anyway.... Back to M17.

For the disk disk question: Here is my (past) R8 running a 4TB USB-SATA SSD.

 

[lostinthesauce]

Yeah, so 3 batteries :
1/ for ssd and nvme
2/ Amp
3/ DAC

It's not so bad if a buffer is used.

Suppose one listens to wav. A full album would be 700mb. Even using an USB 2.0 to nvme bridge the whole album would be buffered in less than 28 seconds; meaning that the next hour and a 19.5 minutes the drive would be in its deepest sleep mode.

 

[horatiu]

I sincerely wish that my feigned cowering under the blustering non-refutation of facts satiated your need for validation of the inflated self worth that clearly exposes a Dunning-Krueger effect.

If you want to sound smart and knowledgeable you might want to check your spelling.

 

[tripanazomi]

Wondering the dead weight of the standalone unit and if it works with large Coax RCA jacks.


Car audio lovers transport users will ask for ;

1) best wish :
a) A Fiio Link app that will work from Android auto connected phone screen for offline files of M17.
b) To be able to use Android auto for control of the unit ( DAP connects via USB to head unit) whilst outputting from SDPIF RCA Coax.
2) End User Changeable battery type ( a Samsung phone battery , easy to find)
3) Last but not least wish : 2nd micro SD card slot same as M11.

 

[vanhalen26]

I’d like to see an optical input for my DVD player or tv. When I use headphones through my old school amp for either the sound out is brutal.

 

[Cecala]

The Dap is turning into a desktop unit.

 

[dsrk]

No, more like DAP is turning into desktop class.