Maybe it was for your own benefit that you did not find it before...lucky you...Well, i found the KA17 thread!
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[FiiO KA17] Mini desktop-class amp, flagship dongle is officially released!
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zilax002
100+ Head-Fier
BTW, someone said a few pages ago in this thread that the balanced port feels a little mushy, basically it doesn't make the click sound when you plug in.
For me it does make the click sound when I plug in and is very tight, no issues. Also no hissing or popping sound. This also has firmware 0.84 and only EQ is available with fiio control app.
Huh, my balanced port feels mushy too. Haven't had any issues with disconnects though, but my usage has been like 90% single ended, so I'll have to see if it becomes an issue.
zilax002
100+ Head-Fier
FWIW I've used it exclusively with the braided cable that comes with the Qudelix 5K and have had zero issues.I to wondered about the effects of the case and now run it out and about without it. I still think the culprit for my random disconnections was the low quality usb c lead as it's definitely not the same quality as the one supplied with the ka3. The one on the left is from ka17 - the one one the right is from the ka3 and seems much better made imho with regards to overall lead strength
Had tons of issues with the KA13 and stock cable, though I can't attribute all the problems to that. It had interference so bad sometimes I'd move my hand *close* to the device and it'd stutter or even pause the device.
I've exclusively used it with the case, also.
And no overheats to answer another user's question.
This is true the balanced port is marginal. I have two tripowin cables but because one has slightly more skin from the 4.4 termination does not click and some times slips out. The other click perfectly. Both click perfectly witn ka5. Must be super tight tolerance mm play a difference. So is not the device but the cable that makes a difference. I need to make a picture to illustrate that.Huh, my balanced port feels mushy too. Haven't had any issues with disconnects though, but my usage has been like 90% single ended, so I'll have to see if it becomes an issue.
This extra skin on top can make a difference believe or not.
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zilax002
100+ Head-Fier
@FiiO I have to say I don't like being able to control the volume with my laptop. This is a downgrade for me. There should be a way to turn this off. I never want two volume settings for any amp. One is enough.
I now have to adjust the volume on both devices every time I plug in the KA17. Being frank, here: this firmware update has ruined what was formerly a good device.
Added functionality is NEVER a downgrade. This is crazy talk.
KaiFi
500+ Head-Fier
Added functionality is NEVER a downgrade. This is crazy talk.
It's a downgrade if the new function is forced on you rather than made into an option. Because it inevitably won't be preferred by everyone. I don't understand why this couldn't have just been a menu item.
zilax002
100+ Head-Fier
It's really not. Put Windows volume at 100 and you're right where you started.It's a downgrade if the new function is forced on you rather than made into an option. Because it inevitably won't be preferred by everyone. I don't understand why this couldn't have just been a menu item.
991 Carrera 4S
100+ Head-Fier
[Update]
To clarify:
I'm pretty sure neither the filters itself, nor their numbering/order, did change between firmware 0.84 and firmware 0.99, only the names were completely wrong in 0.84
e.g. filter 4 always was "linear fast low-ripple", even though firmware 0.84 said "minimum slow".
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Less confusing names would be:
(1) Minimum fast v2
(2) Linear fast apodizing
(3) Linear fast
(4) Linear fast low-ripple
(5) Linear slow
(6) Minimum fast v1
(7) Minimum slow
(8) Minimum slow low-dispersion
To clarify:
I'm pretty sure neither the filters itself, nor their numbering/order, did change between firmware 0.84 and firmware 0.99, only the names were completely wrong in 0.84
e.g. filter 4 always was "linear fast low-ripple", even though firmware 0.84 said "minimum slow".
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Filter names according to official ES9069 datasheet | FiiO KA17 Firmware 0.99 (corrected filter names) | FiiO KA17 Firmware 0.84 (wrong filter names) |
(1) Minimum phase [fast roll-off] (default) | (1) Mini | (1) Fast |
(2) Linear phase apodizing fast roll-off | (2) Fast A | (2) Slow |
(3) Linear phase fast roll-off | (3) Fast | (3) Mini |
(4) Linear phase fast roll-off low-ripple | (4) Fast R | (4) Mini S |
(5) Linear phase slow roll-off | (5) Slow | (5) Apod 1 |
(6) Minimum phase fast roll-off | (6) Mini F | (6) Apod 2 |
(7) Minimum phase slow roll-off | (7) Mini S | (7) Hybrid F |
(8) Minimum phase slow roll-off low dispersion | (8) Mini SD | (8) Brick |
Less confusing names would be:
(1) Minimum fast v2
(2) Linear fast apodizing
(3) Linear fast
(4) Linear fast low-ripple
(5) Linear slow
(6) Minimum fast v1
(7) Minimum slow
(8) Minimum slow low-dispersion
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zilax002
100+ Head-Fier
@991 Carrera 4S Very helpful, but curse Fiio for using "old" filter names for different filters on the new firmware. Geeze!
991 Carrera 4S
100+ Head-Fier
I'm pretty sure neither the filters itself, nor their numbering/order, did change between firmware 0.84 and firmware 0.99, only the names were completely wrong in 0.84@991 Carrera 4S Very helpful, but curse Fiio for using "old" filter names for different filters on the new firmware. Geeze!
e.g. filter 4 always was "linear fast low-ripple", even though firmware 0.84 said "minimum slow".
Dear friend,does anyone know why the German distributor still doesnt have the k17 on offer? It seems that Germany often is the last country where new Fiio products arrive. which wouldnt be too concerning, but its even months after anyone else got them.
We are sorry that since the quantity of KA17 was limited, so we failed to arrange KA17 for the distributor in Germany. But we will send KA17 to them this week and they will have the KA17 soon.
Best regards
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Dear friends,
Since the names of the filters do not match correctly in 0.84, so we update the names in 0.99:
MINI: Minimum phase (default)
FAST A: Linear phase fast roll-off apodizing
FAST: Linear phase fast roll-off
FAST R: Linear phase fast roll-off low ripple
SLOW: Linear phase slow roll-off
MINI F: Minimum phase fast roll-off
MINI S: Minimum phase slow roll-off
MINI S D: Minimum phase slow roll-off low dispersion
Best regards
Since the names of the filters do not match correctly in 0.84, so we update the names in 0.99:
MINI: Minimum phase (default)
FAST A: Linear phase fast roll-off apodizing
FAST: Linear phase fast roll-off
FAST R: Linear phase fast roll-off low ripple
SLOW: Linear phase slow roll-off
MINI F: Minimum phase fast roll-off
MINI S: Minimum phase slow roll-off
MINI S D: Minimum phase slow roll-off low dispersion
Best regards
Stay updated on FiiO at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
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Has anyone paired the ka17 with Arya Organic? I am curious if they complement each other.
sofastreamer
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thank you for clarification! Thats good news! Now i am excited again..Dear friend,
We are sorry that since the quantity of KA17 was limited, so we failed to arrange KA17 for the distributor in Germany. But we will send KA17 to them this week and they will have the KA17 soon.
Best regards
Ten Protons
New Head-Fier
I want to ask one small thing - if I adjust the equalizer on the FiiO KA17 via my phone, will these settings work when I connect it to my computer?