[katzolik]

I just saw the new Steve Gutenberg FH5 review.. and in fact the black ones come with bi-flange tips.
But there is no reason new titanium batches wouldn't have these...
I still want to know if there are additional physical changes to the black version.


https://www.cnet.com/news/fiios-new-earbud-looks-and-sounds-more-expensive-than-it-is/

 

[PopZeus]

The black ones apparently have a longer nozzle so they're not as snug a fit, but the sound is apparently the same as the blue-gray ones.

 

[katzolik]

The black ones apparently have a longer nozzle so they're not as snug a fit, but the sound is apparently the same as the blue-gray ones.

You might not have that info:

I asked them on Facebook, and they replied “we have included bi-flange ear tips.Its a new colour to the fh5, not a new model”.

I would doubt that they alter tooling and manufacturing process for a color change.. Would be expensive.
But would be nice if there was an official statement that the versions are identical.

Maybe someone has both and can compare? Or knows someone who has the other version?

Does anyone on the thread have the new ones?

 

[397324]

They did change the shape of the F9 about two months after release.

 

[PopZeus]

You might not have that info:

Wuuut?

Dear friend,

This new black one has been optimized in order to be deeper into the ear canal.

Best regards

Dear friend,

The sound quality doesn't have difference in this black one.

Best regards.

Helps to search the thread

 

[gLer]

In all this time we haven’t had FiiO or a user provide a side by photo of the silver and black FH5 to settle such a simple matter. We go to the ends of the earth in pursuit of this hobby and sometimes trip up on the simplest of stuff.

 

[katzolik]

Wuuut?





Helps to search the thread

Yeah. Right.
I did Obviously. Otherwise, I wouldn't have made these assumptions.
But if you search the thread even harder you will find the statement I quoted being made after these fiio statements. (that are poor English and maybe not that well thought through.)
The statements from fiio do not specifically say "we did change the shape of the iem".

Could also be:

"Dear friend,

This new black one has been optimized in order to be deeper into the ear canal (Because we include longer bi-flange tips now).

Best regards"

Because if you talk about FH5 as a product (which a marketing person answering forum post most certainly will do) not as the physical metal IEM piece they are correct with this statement even if they just include longer tips..

In all this time we haven’t had FiiO or a user provide a side by photo of the silver and black FH5 to settle such a simple matter. We go to the ends of the earth in pursuit of this hobby and sometimes trip up on the simplest of stuff.

Life could be so simple =D

 

[PopZeus]

Yeah. Right.
I did Obviously. Otherwise, I wouldn't have made these assumptions.
But if you search the thread even harder you will find the statement I quoted being made after these fiio statements. (that are poor English and maybe not that well thought through.)
The statements from fiio do not specifically say "we did change the shape of the iem".

Could also be:

"Dear friend,

This new black one has been optimized in order to be deeper into the ear canal (Because we include longer bi-flange tips now).

Best regards"

Because if you talk about FH5 as a product (which a marketing person answering forum post most certainly will do) not as the physical metal IEM piece they are correct with this statement even if they just include longer tips..

Good point! I was just going off these statements from FiiO, and someone else in the thread alluding to a 1mm longer nozzle, but didn't go any further than that with my understanding. But you're absolutely right about bi-flange tips being the extent of their solution. In my defense, I did say "apparently".

 

[DavidS11]

At the shop, I have tried and tested the FH5, FH7 and FA7. I bought the newer black FH5 version and I don’t think it has a longer nozzle. It’s the same as the titanium one! I also have the same fit issue as most people with the black FH5, as none of the included tip helps (including the added new bi-flange tip). IMO the fit iand seal ssue of the FH5 is not so much of the shorter nozzle but the large size of their shell that prevent an ideal insertion into the ears. People with bigger ears will fit better but majority including me will have same issue getting a good fit and seal. I find IEMs with slightly smaller housing like FA7, Sony M7/M9 fit better for me. I have tried many tips both short and longer tips with no solution to fit the FH5 properly. I like the FH5, just the fit and seal issue on my ears.

Ps: I find rotating the angle of the MMCX connnector helps in getting a slight better seal by making the shell fit a little better into the ears cavity.

 

[Marco Angel]

At the shop, I have tried and tested the FH5, FH7 and FA7. I bought the newer black FH5 version and I don’t think it has a longer nozzle. It’s the same as the titanium one! I also have the same fit issue as most people with the black FH5, as none of the included tip helps (including the added new bi-flange tip). IMO the fit iand seal ssue of the FH5 is not so much of the shorter nozzle but the large size of their shell that prevent an ideal insertion into the ears. People with bigger ears will fit better but majority including me will have same issue getting a good fit and seal. I find IEMs with slightly smaller housing like FA7, Sony M7/M9 fit better for me. I have tried many tips both short and longer tips with no solution to fit the FH5 properly. I like the FH5, just the fit and seal issue on my ears.

Ps: I find rotating the angle of the MMCX connnector helps in getting a slight better seal by making the shell fit a little better into the ears cavity.

Why do you buy the FH5 instead of theyr brothers? (Soundwise) price also si a very tempting situation

 

[expatriot]

My fit problem with the FH5 is the combination of the short nozzle and the thickness of the shell.

 

[Marco Angel]

Have the SpinFit C100 and the little extra long tip helps a lot, also the bi-flange tips that fiio provides also provides a good seal (but not so confy to my ears)

 

[katzolik]

At the shop, I have tried and tested the FH5, FH7 and FA7. I bought the newer black FH5 version and I don’t think it has a longer nozzle. It’s the same as the titanium one! I also have the same fit issue as most people with the black FH5, as none of the included tip helps (including the added new bi-flange tip). IMO the fit iand seal ssue of the FH5 is not so much of the shorter nozzle but the large size of their shell that prevent an ideal insertion into the ears. People with bigger ears will fit better but majority including me will have same issue getting a good fit and seal. I find IEMs with slightly smaller housing like FA7, Sony M7/M9 fit better for me. I have tried many tips both short and longer tips with no solution to fit the FH5 properly. I like the FH5, just the fit and seal issue on my ears.

Ps: I find rotating the angle of the MMCX connnector helps in getting a slight better seal by making the shell fit a little better into the ears cavity.

Did you notice a difference in sound signature between the older FH5 demo units in the shop and the black ones you bought?

 

[DavidS11]

Have the SpinFit C100 and the little extra long tip helps a lot, also the bi-flange tips that fiio provides also provides a good seal (but not so confy to my ears)

Never like bi-flange as they’re not comfortable compared to silicone or foam.

CP100 sound too much bass for me due to the smaller bore. Did u give CP145 a try?

 

[DavidS11]

Why do you buy the FH5 instead of theyr brothers? (Soundwise) price also si a very tempting situation

I like the forward sound signature of the FH5. Also, best value amongst them.