FiiO E07K ANDES Review and Help Thread
Dec 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM Post #31 of 1,676
Discovered the E07K is available on Amazon UK today (it wasn't yesterday) and have ordered one. I have an E7 atm, so will be interested to see how it compares.
Some of the biggest changes are a better software and UI with eq controls. It also uses Fiios new headphone jacks (longer lasting and durable). For me they were very tight when i first got them. I literally had to use strength to put my jack in and out of andes. It became normal after about 5 times. It also uses new op amps and also a new usb decoder.

Check it out.
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 3:45 PM Post #32 of 1,676
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confirmed that e07k works with note 2 and s3
 
link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.betanews.net%2Farticle%2F571610&hl=ko&ie=EUK-KR&sl=ko&tl=en
 
its written in korean " i think"  so i translate it with google web translator
 
he said " Smartphone that supports digital input (I confirmed that Galaxy Note Galaxy S3 with Android OS"
 
@_@

This guy http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E07K-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/product-reviews/B00A9LHLQ6/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
 
is saying it doesn't work with S3 so it's a mistery for now. 
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM Post #33 of 1,676
This guy http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E07K-Portable-Headphone-Amplifier/product-reviews/B00A9LHLQ6/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
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is saying it doesn't work with S3 so it's a mistery for now. 


Well, I speak Korean and the review(one in Korean) states that it works with S3 with Jellybean.
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 6:15 PM Post #35 of 1,676
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Interesting. That would suggest it is kernel dependant then.

Generally it is kernel dependent already as you need USB OTG support. The phone hardware wise needs it and its kernal software needs to support digital audio output through its USB port.
 
Update:
Only some IEM's exhibit noise while others don't. 32 Ohm portable headphones don't have any and some 16 ohm IEM's do while others do not.
 
Your mileage may vary.
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM Post #36 of 1,676
another review from the korean guy, he mentioned that it works with galaxy s3 ,note 2 and ipad with CCK
 
Quote:
FiiO USB DAC headphone amplifier E07K ANDES PC-Fi & Smart-Fi
DAC as the supplied USB cable to the USB port on your desktop or laptop sound card is recognized automatically when you connect it gives behalf. Some smart phones (currently the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2) Direct to iPad (2 versions) using the camera kit digital output port are able to enjoy the original sound connected digita.l In addition, to the iPhone or any other Android smartphone and MP3P fit the device you are using analog cable.

 
Source: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ko&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popco.net%2Fzboard%2Fview.php%3Fid%3Dur_dica%26no%3D7104
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 8:48 PM Post #37 of 1,676
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Generally it is kernel dependent already as you need USB OTG support. The phone hardware wise needs it and its kernal software needs to support digital audio output through its USB port.
 
Update:
Only some IEM's exhibit noise while others don't. 32 Ohm portable headphones don't have any and some 16 ohm IEM's do while others do not.
 
Your mileage may vary.

 
Please set the gain to 0dB when you used some very high sensitivity IEM. the MAX gain of ANDES is about 12dB it is quite big. 
 
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Dec 7, 2012 at 8:51 PM Post #38 of 1,676
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Please set the gain to 0dB when you used some very high sensitivity IEM. the MAX gain of ANDES is about 12dB it is quite big. 

I was just putting that out there. The noise is still prevelant ON SOME.. But of course you have more IEM's than I so your vote on this part would be interesting to note.
 
I don't get noise on all my IEM's(they are not sensitive). 
 
I don't see this to be a problem unless you use low impedence IEM's for it which some will do. I think it should still be noted none the less.
 
I have used all gains with the IEM's.
 

@Everyone
I am just noting that the Andes may have some noise for IEM's that are near 16 ohms and or are very sensitive. For all other types of headphones, there is no noise with it.
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 8:55 PM Post #39 of 1,676
is this compatible with sony PMP players?
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 8:56 PM Post #40 of 1,676
for Android phone, we have a new Model called E18, I think ANDES is not a good option to people who want to use it as DAC/AMP for Android phone. we try to put some features which will help improve the experience.
 
1, You can use E18 to charge your Android phone, the E18 will carry a 3500mAH or 4000mAh li-ion battery and support USB 5V output so it can work as a backup battery.
 
2, When the E18 bundled with phone, you can charging the phone at the same time but don't need to unplug the micro usb cable.
 
3, There are some hardware bottoms on the E18, which used to control the phone, like play/pause, previous / next to select the songs.
 
Also we will try to improve the EMI design so we can control the noise caused by the GSM signal, 
 
So, E18 will not the best DAC/AMP among our line up, but it will be the best for the android phone, in features, sound quality, size . 
 
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Dec 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM Post #41 of 1,676
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is this compatible with sony PMP players?

As long as the PMP has a headphone out jack. The E07K can be used with it. However you will thus be using the amps of the first PMP along with the two op amps in the E07K. The DAC will not be used.
 
If the PMP has a line out like SOME(not all) Sony's have or like an iPod, then you can bypass that devices headphone amp(s) and just use E07K's. DAC will not be used.
 
If a device supports USB OTG and has software kernel support for digital audio output or if it just has digital audio output then it SHOULD (not always) be able to use both DAC and amp of E07K. But WARNING, be careful. If the powerdraw of E07K is higher than device supports then it will not work. The above posts on the Samsung being able to do it or not is on this problem as well as which kernels currently work. 
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 8:59 PM Post #42 of 1,676
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for Android phone, we have a new Model called E18, I think ANDES is not a good option to people who want to use it as DAC/AMP for Android phone. we try to put some features which will help improve the experience.
 
1, You can use E18 to charge your Android phone, the E18 will carry a 3500mAH or 4000mAh li-ion battery and support USB 5V output so it can work as a backup battery.
 
2, When the E18 bundled with phone, you can charging the phone at the same time but don't need to unplug the micro usb cable.
 
3, There are some hardware bottoms on the E18, which used to control the phone, like play/pause, previous / next to select the songs.
 
Also we will try to improve the EMI design so we can control the noise caused by the GSM signal, 
 
So, E18 will not the best DAC/AMP among our line up, but it will be the best for the android phone, in features, sound quality, size . 

Android devices are far and wide, are you going to release a list of devices that are compatibile with specific kernels or OS? Or will E18 be compatible with all Android devices that have USB OTG support without care for kernel or ROM?
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 9:11 PM Post #43 of 1,676
Too early to answer the question, but we will try to focus on some popular models , like the Galaxy series. in fact, none of current Android Phone support all the features includes in the standard. 
 
for example, the Android phone should support MIC input and Analog output through the micro USB port, but we had tested Android Phone 4.2. in Galaxy S3, Note 2, and Nexus3 . the only newest
 
phone we have not test is Nexus4 .
 
About the Kernel or ROM, it can't be solved by E18 so I am not sure about that, but so far we have succeed in work with S3, Nexus3, Note2, HTC 1X, Nexus7.
 
 
anyway, it will be better to back to Andes, lol.
 
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Dec 7, 2012 at 9:20 PM Post #44 of 1,676
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Too early to answer the question, but we will try to focus on some popular models , like the Galaxy series. in fact, none of current Android Phone support all the features includes in the standard. 
 
for example, the Android phone should support MIC input and Analog output through the micro USB port, but we had tested Android Phone 4.2. in Galaxy S3, Note 2, and Nexus3 . the only newest
 
phone we have not test is Nexus4 .
 
About the Kernel or ROM, it can't be solved by E18 so I am not sure about that, but so far we have succeed in work with S3, Nexus3, Note2, HTC 1X, Nexus7.
 
 
anyway, it will be better to back to Andes, lol.

The standard was Nexus I believe 
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 which was Google's own house phone. At first they had a lot of help from Samsung in designing it. In the second version they more or less made it themselves. And then Motorolla Mobility was formally bought and aquirred by Google. So let's hope we see a very interesting new Nexus.
 
Yeah I was going to guess that the E18 would need to work with phones that support standards and also with software that allows it to output that signal. The people that buy an E17 or E07K asking if it can be used with their Android phones all have phones with those abilities anyway (unless they didn't know) so that is fine I guess.
 
Your new E12 bundled band looks great. I am guessing you need 10mm bigger due to the E12's "larger" size.
 
These units are heavily used with iOS devices and iPods. Would it ever be possible to design a band that not only straps well but is about half as thick? I will post an orientation part in my review and what I think are best strap positions but I still get some blockage. Just wondering if it would be possible. 
 
Dec 7, 2012 at 11:06 PM Post #45 of 1,676
Looks interesting, debating whether or not to go with this or the iBasso D-Zero which is more expensive
 

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