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FiiO BTR3-The World' First Bluetooth Headphone Amplifier, SBC/AAC/aptX/aptX LL/aptX HD/LDAC/HWA (LHDC)

Discussion in 'Portable Headphone Amps' started by FiiO, Aug 8, 2018.
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  1. forsakencowboy
    I usually stream music from Spotify or Tidal, is there an EQ app for android that works with BTR3? Neutralizer which I normally use doesn't work, and all of the other apps I've tried does not work either.

    I hope @FiiO manges to push out an update with 10 band EQ sooner than march.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2019
  2. McLambo
    Decided to return the BTR3 to Amazon, and go for the M6 instead. Seems that this meets my wishes more than the BTR3.
    The experiences so far have increased my appetite for more FIIO :wink:
     
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  3. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    If everything goes well, the EQ function for BTR3 will be added in February.

    Best regards
     
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  4. BenKatz
    Has anyone compared it to the Dragonfly RED? I know the RED is an expensive product, but I'm curious how it compares.
     
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  5. archy121
    You do realise they are two different non competing products ?

    One offers top quality lossless sound over BT (LDAC) and the other offers great sound through a wired solution.

    BTR3 is not particularly good as a USB DAC and the Dragonfly can’t do any Wireless audio at all.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
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  6. BenKatz
    I did mention in know the price difference is almost double. In that regard they dont compete. I know the dragonfly has 1.5x more output power (more powerful amp) but is only wired, while the BTR3 has lower power but also works on BT (ldac especially). I know the BTR3 has a AK dac while the Dragonfly i believe is Sabre.

    So back to my question (and i'd appreciate an answer from someone that tried them), considering these are both portable, flash drive sized dac/amps, how does the sound quality compare (dragonfly wired vs btr wired/ldac) besides the fact that the dragonfly can make the headphones sound louder?

    I'm asking about resolution/sound stage/separation.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
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  7. Alberto01
    There is some insight for your inquiry in this post:

    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/fii...hd-ldac-hwa-lhdc.886101/page-26#post-14480567

    I have used my BTR3 in wired mode with a micro B port cell phone through IEMs. The sound was excellent with 16 bit/44.1 kHz tracks and on par with the sound when using the best Bluetooth codecs. That speaks very well about using the BTR3 in either wireless or wired mode for CD quality tracks. For the wired connection, I used a plug adapter in order to turn the BTR3 USB male A to USB Type-C (male, of course) stock cable into a USB micro B to USB Type-C cable. Soundwise that was a perfect connection. However, I noticed that the BTR3 got warm, which is an indication that the connection was passing current from the cell phone battery to the BTR3. I switched then to an OTG cable (micro B to female A) connected to the BTR3 stock cable and the sound was the same and the BTR3 didn't get warm anymore.

    Beware that in wired mode, the BTR3 is limited to a 16 bit/44.1 (or 48) kHz resolution.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2019
  8. shockdude
    Some more thoughts on the BTR3.
    • It sounds great, whether as a USB DAC or wirelessly with LDAC. Looking forward to the equalizer so that I can increase the subbass a little.
    • Going wireless is much more convenient than I ever imagined, and works well with my regular usage (only a couple hours wirelessly a day, plugged in as a USB DAC the rest of the time).
    • I wish that the Charge & LED indicator functions could be changed using button combinations, instead of having to use the Fiio app.
    • When used as a USB DAC for my Android phone, there's less latency than the phone's headphone out (if the Cytus II ingame calibration isn't lying to me). This is pretty funky compared to the latency when connected to a Windows laptop as a USB DAC.
    • The microphone isn't great, but it works well enough.
    Also, does the microphone work on Windows PCs? I couldn't get the "Headset" speaker & mic to do anything.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2019
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  9. subtec
    @FiiO I don't suppose we'll see a slightly larger device with longer battery life at some point? All of these BT receivers settle around 8-12 hours runtime, which I find isn't always enough. I'd gladly trade a little size increase if I could reliably get 20 hours out of it.
     
  10. borrego
    I personally do not want to see any BT receiver/headamp device larger than the BTR3. I bought the BTR3 for its small size and be able to clip to the headbands of my GMP 8.35d Mobile and Beyer Custom Street, converting them to BT headphones with a short 3.5-3.5 plug cable.
     
  11. subtec
    Well, you're in luck, because there aren't any (or they're a lot larger). Most of the available models are about the size of the BTR3.
     
  12. SeeD
    Excellent!

    How many bands will be apart of your EQ software?
     
  13. forsakencowboy
    @FiiO I am using the btr3 at 30% volume and only get around six hours of battery. And the battery indicator on my android phone shows battery as half full when it's empty. What can cause this?
     
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2019
  14. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    The microphone in BTR3 is disabled when using as USB DAC. The computer will set the original microphone in itself for default input still.

    Best regards
     
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  15. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    We don't have the Bluetooth AMP with 20 hours battery life currently. :triportsad: But we will still report your suggestion to the product manager. Thank you for the kind interest on our products.

    Best regards
     
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