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FiiO BTR3-The World' First Bluetooth Headphone Amplifier, SBC/AAC/aptX/aptX LL/aptX HD/LDAC/HWA (LHDC)

Discussion in 'Portable Headphone Amps' started by FiiO, Aug 8, 2018.
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  1. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    You are using the USB DAC or Bluetooth connection? The volume control would not change the volume of the player but the BTR3 itself.

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  2. FiiO
    Dear friend,

    Which Bluetooth code you are using?

    Some explanations about Bluetooth Connection — From James

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  3. xoa.nine
    Hi,

    Thanks for the quick reply, I've tested using the BTR3 with Bluetooth and USB DAC.

    Yes i understand the volume control is separate, but play/pause, next track/prev track, does not do anything on iTunes on macOS Mojave
     
  4. Douglas McGee
    Just received my BTR3 today and absolutely love it. Using it with an iphone X and my Shure se856 iems. This pair sound really good. Much better than the stock lightning adaptor out. Sound is closer to my Q1 mkII, but without the bulk. Unlike some reviews I've read, I get really good bluetooth range here. I can walk all around my large rooms without any interruption. AAC bluetooth also works well here with the iphone.

    One request. I would love it if there were an ASIO driver for windows. I'm a professional musician, and I'd like to be able to travel with just the BTR3 and my laptop, and to be able to edit with this pair on the go. Would save me from having to take my Q1 mkII in my travel case. I find the BTR3 sound to be more than adequate for mobile use as a headphone DAC. Really wish it had an ASIO driver.
     
  5. alexkonkov
    Dear Fiio, could you please make possible changing the volume right form Bluetooth host (e.g. phone)? I need to make sure my phone sends the best audio quality to BTR3 (best at 100% volume). Needing to change a separate volume on BTR3 is a critical usability flaw I believe everyone would like you to address.
     
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2019
  6. monocats
    Hi. Thanks for the response!
    Based on the info I did some further testing.

    LDAC, Aptx, AAC, SBC - with my Galaxy S9 plus Exynos - no difference, stuttering when in my back pocket. So the issue seems not to be tied to the bandwidth the codec uses.

    I did not experience this kind of issue with my other (AptX) Bluetooth adapter - Samsung Level Link..

    Not sure what can be done about this. Is the lower sensitivity of the antenna a part of the design of the device?

    If so, I would gladly sacrifice some battery for more power to the antenna.
     
  7. Brooko Contributor
    Um - the whole idea of the better volume configuration is that you can adjust both from BTR3 and your source - but they are independent of each other. So you have much better control. On my iPhone - if I want it at 100% I can choose to do this - and then control listening volume with the BTR3. But if I have more sensitive IEMs, likewise I can come to a compromise between the two devices. Everyone I've talked to so far prefers this method.

    Assuming this is a "flaw" and that everyone wants to "address it" - is the mistake in your argument I think.

    I for one want to see it left as it is now. And what makes you think this would give better "quality"?
     
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  8. alexkonkov
    After (more) quiet audio is sent over Bluetooth (in 44/16 format) it needs to be amplified in order to reach expected output volume level. Aren't dynamic range, resolution and other quality aspects suffering in this case?
     
  9. Brooko Contributor
    Why would they be? If your perception of them is - turn the volume up slightly.
     
  10. rkw
    Yes. For best sound quality, the source device should be set to maximum volume, then set listening volume on the BTR3.
     
  11. archy121
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    Just like to provide some feedback and say this is an excellent device and works better than I expected. Also very flexible.

    I mainly use it with super comfortable Fidelio X2’s. I can connect to my tv without any lip sync issues and connect to LG V30 mobile using LDAC for all my music needs.

    I find the sound quality using LDAC is so good that there is hardly any point in using a wired headphone anymore for audio up to 24/96. Battery being the only thing holding it back from being a full time solution. @FiiO take note for future model.
    The quality of audio from the BT3 compared to the LG V30’s Quad DAC - not much in it when you add in the convenience or wireless.

    Before buying I had been concerned by the BT range of this unit and now I can confirm it is not an issue for me. I have been able to leave the phone on charge in the living room and walk next door to my kitchen without any audio issues using LDAC. That’s the kind of wireless distance I had hoped for.

    Today as an experiment I connected the BT3 using interconnects to my HiFi amp rather than the headphones and again i was surprised by how good the sound was. Very full and rich.
    The LG V30 with LDAC enabled maintained a firm connection as I sat with it in my hand and played through my FLAC files and Tidal without any trouble. GENIUS !

    This is no doubt the best value and quality wireless audio solution not just for headphone listening but also to turn a wired HiFi rig into a wireless one. I might have to buy another one !
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2019
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  12. Alberto01
    Some people have a very good reception with their BTR3s while others a have very poor reception. That brings the thought that the transmitter device can make a big difference in the signal reception. My BTR3 is bad using AptX with my LG G4 cell phone. It hardly takes much to make it stutter or completely stop. I haven't tried it with other transmitters, yet.
     
  13. alexkonkov
    Mine has noticeably worse reception than several Bluetooth headphones I own. BTR3 struggles to play well being ~ 8 meters away through two walls. I wish it could be on a par with other devices in this area, but unfortunately it isn't.
     
  14. Alberto01
    Mine is a lot worse than that.
     
  15. speedingcheetah
    It really depends also on the device that is transmitting. Some of the older chips are not good at handling interference.

    I have tested, if I pair my BTR3 to and old phone, like my Nexus 5X, it has issue at further distances and in my kitchen. But paired to my Pixel 3, it works everywhere, no issues. Hell, the BTR3 still worked fine when i stuck it in my fridge or oven and closed the door.

    BT uses the 2.4ghz band, so if you are in a crowded environment where there is lots of 2.4g wifi around, or other devices/appliances around that distort that band....you are going to have Bluetooth issues in general.

    For those having issues, disable 2.4ghz band in your router, see if that helps. Make sure all your wifi clients are connected to the 5ghz band though first.
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2019
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