[FiiO BTR17/BTR7] True Lossless Bluetooth, Portable Bluetooth DAC and Headphone Amplifier BTR17 Is Officially Released!

Nov 1, 2022 at 4:38 AM Post #1,066 of 3,460
Dear friend,

The BTA30Pro does not support the button adjustment in Bluetoothe headphone/amp when in TX mode. But we will report to the engineer to assess again whether they could achieve this function in later update.

Best regards
Thank you for considering it. When I connect my BTR7 with my BTA30 Pro, Volume Up/Down and Pause (song) work fine on the BTR7. It is just skip Next/Previous song that does not work.

In general, we are ALL eagerly anticipating your firmware updates and App updates for all of your devices! The BTR7, the BTA30 Pro, the UTWS5 and more.
Really looking forward to it!
 
Nov 1, 2022 at 5:06 AM Post #1,067 of 3,460
Hi Fiio Team,

I recently purchased FiiO BTR7 Android version (upgrading from my BTR3K). I am very pleased by its soundstage and volume but apparently there are quite a few software issues that are starting to take away the experience. I have already factor reset the device twice but it doesn't help. also, I'm on the latest firmware version as checked in the FiiO Control app. I am currently using it with my Samsung S22 Ultra and Sony Xperia 5 III (both on Android 12 using Poweramp music player latest app from playstore; set at 192KHz and 32-bit audio sampling).

1. When I play music for the first time connected via USB-C to phone, the audio works perfectly fine. But upon pausing the music for a few seconds in the app and/or opening another app (e.g Insta, youtube) which takes over audio from the previous app, the BTR7 play audio like a robot and misbehaves a lot. There is lot of static noise and I ALWAYS have to disconnect the cord and reconnect it. Then it plays just fine until this whole thing gets repeated. It happens many times a day and is quite frustrating honestly.

2. When playing the audio at 50-60% volume in the phone (BTR7 is set at 60), the BTR7 cuts off many frequencies for soft/low sound in the track and it seems like it is applying some sort of a filter to cut-off noises/silence and it plays audio in cuts until the signal in the track is loud enough to avoid that; as if some noise-cancelling is happening in the background which cuts audio waves below a certain threshold. This is very frustrating for soft music that one plays at 50-60% volume in the night and cannot hear many subtle tunes because of that. It seems to only happen when connected over USB-C to the phone. When connected over Bluetooth mode, it works fine (probably because it adds some noise which it treats like a signal and hence doesn't cut it out).

Kindly prioritise fixing those two issues as it is seriously frustrating and takes away the entire experience of it being "premium".
 
Nov 1, 2022 at 11:50 AM Post #1,068 of 3,460
To get full dynamic range you should max out volume on the phone and control it via BTR7.
On the first issue, try to use UAPP for playback, native Android USB driver is so messed up, besides shared stream issues it also resamples everything to 48khz.
BT LDAC is fine and honestly virtually indistinguishable from USB SQ, stick with that.
 
Nov 2, 2022 at 3:17 AM Post #1,069 of 3,460
Two questions about the BTR7:

1. Is the Q3 significantly warmer then the BTR7?

2. I have the Q3 and I am in doubt about a more portable solution. Either the BTR7 or an M11S. How much do both differ in sound quality and tuning? I know it’s apples and oranges, but I just want something that sounds more or less like the Q3, yet more portable.
Dear friend,

Sorry I could not tell about that since the SQ feeling is subjective.
You may read some reviews or check the feedback for BTR7 in our Aliexpress store to see whether it helps:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804287203725.html

Best regards
 
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Nov 2, 2022 at 3:20 AM Post #1,070 of 3,460
Hi Fiio Team,

I recently purchased FiiO BTR7 Android version (upgrading from my BTR3K). I am very pleased by its soundstage and volume but apparently there are quite a few software issues that are starting to take away the experience. I have already factor reset the device twice but it doesn't help. also, I'm on the latest firmware version as checked in the FiiO Control app. I am currently using it with my Samsung S22 Ultra and Sony Xperia 5 III (both on Android 12 using Poweramp music player latest app from playstore; set at 192KHz and 32-bit audio sampling).

1. When I play music for the first time connected via USB-C to phone, the audio works perfectly fine. But upon pausing the music for a few seconds in the app and/or opening another app (e.g Insta, youtube) which takes over audio from the previous app, the BTR7 play audio like a robot and misbehaves a lot. There is lot of static noise and I ALWAYS have to disconnect the cord and reconnect it. Then it plays just fine until this whole thing gets repeated. It happens many times a day and is quite frustrating honestly.

2. When playing the audio at 50-60% volume in the phone (BTR7 is set at 60), the BTR7 cuts off many frequencies for soft/low sound in the track and it seems like it is applying some sort of a filter to cut-off noises/silence and it plays audio in cuts until the signal in the track is loud enough to avoid that; as if some noise-cancelling is happening in the background which cuts audio waves below a certain threshold. This is very frustrating for soft music that one plays at 50-60% volume in the night and cannot hear many subtle tunes because of that. It seems to only happen when connected over USB-C to the phone. When connected over Bluetooth mode, it works fine (probably because it adds some noise which it treats like a signal and hence doesn't cut it out).

Kindly prioritise fixing those two issues as it is seriously frustrating and takes away the entire experience of it being "premium".
Dear friend,

1. Are you using some APPs support USB exclusive mode while some not at the same time? If yes, please try to exit the apps with USB exlusive mode support before entering the other APPs to see whether it helps?
2. Would you mind trying to set the mobile phone to highest volume, then adjust the volume via the BTR7 instead?

Best regards
 
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Nov 2, 2022 at 3:28 AM Post #1,071 of 3,460
1. Are you using some APPs support USB exclusive mode while some not at the same time? If yes, please try to exit the apps with USB exlusive mode support before entering the other APPs to see whether it helps?
Well this is largely very inconvenient to do so when you are in an app (listening to music) and use the recents menu of the phone to switch into another app which takes over the audio control. I see this is as an excuse to not fix something vs. use asking me to use my phone differently. This should be fixed in the software where it should be seamless regardless of the app I use. I am only using Poweramp/Rocket Music Player/Built in music player on both my phones and whichever app I use, this issue pops up everytime I pause the audio and switch into another app like Insta, Youtube, etc.

2. Would you mind trying to set the mobile phone to highest volume, then adjust the volume via the BTR7 instead?
For this, I have set an equalizer for many types of audio files in these apps, so blowing up the audio to a full volume distorts the audio even if I have to then manage from BTR7. This is also not an ideal solution either. It wokrs only when I keep the equaliser FLAT in my phone, crank up the volume and then control it via BTR7. This never happened in my BTR3K and it was always on full volume and I used my phone to control the same.
 
Nov 2, 2022 at 8:39 AM Post #1,072 of 3,460
Haha, I meant pictures of your unit, because real life pictures always give a better impression of a product than commercial pictures :) But you know what, now I can do that by myself because actually I have purchased one and really like it! :beerchug:Definitely nicer looking than the boring grey stock case. In addition, the leather (?) of the Miter case feels really soft and smooth!
 

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Nov 2, 2022 at 8:42 AM Post #1,073 of 3,460
Dear friends,

How do you like the BTR7 with white colour?
If you ask me, that looks fantastic! Just realized it would fit perfectly to my Fir Audio VxV (see picture in my post above)! :)
 
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Nov 2, 2022 at 4:28 PM Post #1,074 of 3,460
Someone enquired on the IER-Z1R thread about pairing with a bluetooth adapter so I did a quick test with my BTR7 and shared this picture. I found them to be a good pairing, not just for sound, the grey case was a great match too.

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Nov 2, 2022 at 6:37 PM Post #1,075 of 3,460
Hi.
I was tempted to buy it, but I have seen that it has a high output impedance for what is usually normal (2.8 ohm bal) and the impedance of the headphones to be connected is recommended to be greater than 16 ohm. There is also the recommendation not to connect headphones with less than 8 times the output impedance. One of the headphones that I listen to the most, and that I would use with the btr7, would be the 8ohm Yanyin Moonlight. Has anyone been able to try these, or another low impedance model with the fiio?
 
Nov 2, 2022 at 9:14 PM Post #1,076 of 3,460
I'm sure others have mentioned this, but the BTR7 > 4.4 balanced > Sennheiser 600 sounds SO GOOD. I've been listening to this combo a lot recently and I cannot find any complaints. It sounds very clean and accurate And powers the Senns beautifully. (using Spotify aptX, generally) @FiiO I hope you guys can bump up the experience for the new BTR whenever it comes out.

also I want to say @FiiO has some of the BEST promo / marketing materials in the business. Whoever designs their marketing aesthetic is incredible. Give them a raise.
 
Nov 3, 2022 at 1:38 AM Post #1,078 of 3,460
@FiiO just "upgraded" to firmware version 1.85 and now there no option to enter the settings menu on the BTR7 by pressing button "A" for 2 seconds, BTR7 just powers down. Also the link for previous firmware version has been removed so I cant even revert back to the old firmware.

EDIT: OK so for those about to upgrade firmware to V1.85 make sure you have the latest version of the FiiO control app installed V3.3 otherwise you wont have access to menu operations because by default neither option is ticked yet with neither box ticked for wake screen the usual method still works why FiiO why?????
 
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Nov 3, 2022 at 2:24 AM Post #1,079 of 3,460
@FiiO just "upgraded" to firmware version 1.85 and now there no option to enter the settings menu on the BTR7 by pressing button "A" for 2 seconds, BTR7 just powers down. Also the link for previous firmware version has been removed so I cant even revert back to the old firmware.
Dear friend,

1. You could press hold the power button for 1s to enter the menu.
And you could switch to 'double click the power button' for menu operation in the FiiO Control app now:
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2. We did not remove the 1.71 firmware download link for BTR7. If you fail to download it, you could try another browser for help.
Best regards
 
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Nov 3, 2022 at 2:29 AM Post #1,080 of 3,460

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The new firmware V1.85 for FiiO BTR7 is now available!​


The following changes and improvements have been made to the FW1.85:

1. Added a new function of 2 levels of self-defined EQ;

2. Added a new function of displaying connected devices(You could view the connected/disconnected devices from 'device list' option in the menu of BTR7);

3. Added a new function of auto-disabling Bluetooth under UAC mode;

4. Added a new function of 'Wake up the screen'(You could switch between 'Any button' and 'Power button only' to wake screen via the FiiO Control app. 'Any button' is set as default);

5. Added a new function of 'Menu operation'(You could switch between 'Press and hold the power button for 1s' and 'Double click theower button' for menu operation via the FiiO Control app. 'Press and hold the power button for 1s' is set as default);

6. Improved the function of UI interaction of EQ;

7. Miscellaneous bug fixes.


Note: Please update the FiiO Control to latest version first.


BTR7 firmware download: Click here

How to upgrade the BTR7: Click here
 
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