[FiiO BTR15/BTR5 2021/BTR5]Bluetooth DAC and Headphone Amplifier Discussion & Impressions Thread
Oct 9, 2020 at 5:19 AM Post #2,176 of 3,723
@FiiO congratulations for releasing the new BTR5 2.0 firmware but, as asked before, when will you release a new version of the iOS Apps? I also do not have Android.
Another question is, when we will be able to update the firmware using Mac OS?
Dear user,

The new APP for iOS devices will be available at about this month.
The firmware could not be updated by mac. :frowning2: Sorry.

Best regards
 
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Oct 9, 2020 at 5:58 AM Post #2,177 of 3,723
@FiiO

yesterday i was listening to my btr5 via ldac, i paused a bit and walked away. when I came back it had turned off and didn't turn back on in any way. then I thought to connect it to the PC for a moment and when I unplugged it and pressed play it came back on normally.

what happened ??
 
Oct 9, 2020 at 6:03 AM Post #2,178 of 3,723
@FiiO

yesterday i was listening to my btr5 via ldac, i paused a bit and walked away. when I came back it had turned off and didn't turn back on in any way. then I thought to connect it to the PC for a moment and when I unplugged it and pressed play it came back on normally.

what happened ??
Dear user,

There may be a system bug with the BTR5. And you reset it by connecting to the PC.

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Oct 9, 2020 at 6:29 AM Post #2,179 of 3,723
2. Do you mean the u-audio option? If you would like to play higher sampling rate file via the BTR5, you could switch to USB2.0 instead.


Best regards

Thank you for your reply, @FiiO

Re: question 2, no I mean, when you open FiiO Music app, for example, go to Settings, Bluetooth device control then connect the BTR5, then Audio, scroll down you see: DAC clock divider level.

Is 1 the best possible sound quality when I use the BTR5 with my smartphone?
 
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Oct 9, 2020 at 10:01 PM Post #2,180 of 3,723
I'm really loving my Fiio BTR5. There are only 2 things that annoy me about it.

1) You can't take it out of menu mode without just waiting until it times out. Wish there was a way to toggle it off with a button.
2) The Fiio connects to anything it has been paired with. This is a problem with Apple ios because it will connect to any apple device when you don't want it to. So, I just turn it off when I am not using it.
 
Oct 10, 2020 at 5:56 AM Post #2,182 of 3,723
hi, could someone tell me if btr5 is mqa compatible? If not, do you know if exist an mqa bt ???

Not such a thing as MQA compatible BT.
 
Oct 10, 2020 at 6:06 AM Post #2,184 of 3,723
I'm really loving my Fiio BTR5. There are only 2 things that annoy me about it.

1) You can't take it out of menu mode without just waiting until it times out. Wish there was a way to toggle it off with a button.
2) The Fiio connects to anything it has been paired with. This is a problem with Apple ios because it will connect to any apple device when you don't want it to. So, I just turn it off when I am not using it.
Same button that put you in menu mode takes you out.

When not in menu mode a single press of the "power button" brings up the connection details - wakes up the screen.

Hold the power button longer and up pops the menu.

Short press the power button to jump from menu option to next.

Then when you are done with the Menu press and hold the power button until the connection details swaps in from menu, there you go. :)
 
Oct 10, 2020 at 6:08 AM Post #2,185 of 3,723
therefore how can you use ldac if there is no possible source?!?!?

Is this a separated question?

My Android smartphone supports LDAC just fine as a source, so are many other Android smartphones and DAP.
 
Oct 10, 2020 at 6:13 AM Post #2,186 of 3,723
hi, could someone tell me if btr5 is mqa compatible? If not, do you know if exist an mqa bt ???
You can decode MQA from a file and decode MQA from USB DAC mode, and decode MQA from a network stream, but not from a BT stream as BT encoding ruins the MQA bits such that there is no MQA "end to end" assurance possible.

It would be possible for a device to decode an MQA file / or as USB DAC / or as a MQA network stream and re-encode that resulting audio output into a BT digital stream, but it wouldn't be MQA per se as it would be a BT altered "copy".

I've heard the MQA people are working on a wireless delivery "standard" for MQA, and I heard it was scheduled for release in 2020, but it's not been seen yet.

Then there's this:

The first MQA headphones are (nearly) here
By What Hi-Fi? September 01, 2020
The Asus ROG Delta S are aimed at gamers and are the first headphones with MQA Renderer technology
https://www.whathifi.com/us/news/the-first-mqa-headphones-are-nearly-here

That suggests MQA encoding in game audio is coming - delivered from a file through an MQA decoder / renderer- not sure if the MQA hardware is in the headphone and requires a USB connection, or if the device is outboard and the headphones use a regular analogue connection.

MQA is growing in delivery methods because it's a sonically pleasing way to deliver high bit rate recordings in a "compressed" size without a reduction in fidelity. :)

https://www.mqa.co.uk/
https://www.mqa.co.uk/newsroom
https://www.mqa.co.uk/newsroom/news/asus-headphones
https://www.mqa.co.uk/newsroom/qa/what-is-mqa
 
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Oct 10, 2020 at 7:02 AM Post #2,188 of 3,723
so.. if I use tidal or spotify for btr5 makes no differences?
Listen to both and decide for yourself. :)

For me I prefer Tidal streaming Premium / HIFI better than Amazon Music HD / Ultra HD which I like better than Spotify - which sounds like Apple Music to me - and Tidal Masters MQA is the icing on the Cake that is Tidal HIFI for me.

Going with Tidal now so when you upgrade to a DAC that supports MQA all of your playlists and Tidal GUI familiarity will be there as continuity to MQA enjoyment. And, you don't need the expensive Premium Tidal then, start with the less expensive subscription.

Even gaming headphones are getting MQA rendering:

The first MQA headphones are (nearly) here By What Hi-Fi? September 01, 2020
The Asus ROG Delta S are aimed at gamers and are the first headphones with MQA Renderer technology
https://www.whathifi.com/us/news/the-first-mqa-headphones-are-nearly-here
https://www.mqa.co.uk/newsroom/news/asus-headphones

And when you are ready for an Annual Tidal subscription with Premium or HIFI with MQA Masters, BestBuy offers an inexpensive way to get Tidal Premium for only $119 a year instead of $239.88:

TIDAL - HiFi Music, 12-Month Subscription (new subscribers only) Auto-renews at $119.99 per year [Digital] $119.99

TIDAL - Premium Music, 12-Month Subscription (new subscribers only) Auto-renews at $79.99 per year [Digital] - $79.99

There are shorter Tidal subscriptions for both on BestBuy too...
 
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Oct 10, 2020 at 5:39 PM Post #2,189 of 3,723
Question for other users: Is there an easy way to switch between Bluetooth and DAC modes when the BTR5 is connected via USB? I can only do this by turning off the bluetooth source and / or disconnecting then reconnecting the USB plug. I suspect there is an easier way.

In addition, last time I did this it read the FiiO DAC information (EG - bitrate displayed on BTR5 screen) but there was no sound output, very strange indeed.

I love the BTR5 overall and would appreciate tips from experienced users to eliminate these small annoyances.

Thanks.
 
Oct 10, 2020 at 5:54 PM Post #2,190 of 3,723
Can you please suggest me a good cable to connect my phone with my BTR5? Like the FiiO LT-TC1.

Thank you
 

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