[Tybot]

I’m in. Looking forward to it!

 

[EffectAudio]

So, I got to try out the full Vogue lineup, this past weekend and I had a blast. The Maestro is smooth, natural, with a big stage. The Virtuoso definitely spiced things up, with more detail and immediacy to the sound, but was less dimensional and natural than the other 2. The Grandioso was the star of the show for me, and combined the best of both the Maestro and Virtuoso, with a very holographic stage, detail and natural like warmth. I liked the Grandioso so much, that I ordered a black version from EA and should have it tomorrow. Bravo EA for bringing an awesome and affordable lineup to the table. I really feel, that one could find a great match for any iem, with 1 of the 3.

Excellent post, thanks for sharing! Despite having the higher end cables at my disposal I still regularly enjoy Grandioso because of its natural tone.

 

[Wes S]

Excellent post, thanks for sharing! Despite having the higher end cables at my disposal I still regularly enjoy Grandioso because of its natural tone.

Thanks for the kind words! It is easy to talk so positive, about such a quality cable. Speaking of the Grandioso . . .look below at what showed up yesterday, and a day early at that. I love the color choice and the build quality (braiding) is perfect and I could not be happier with my purchase. Thanks again to EA, for another awesome cable. I currently have a Cleo 4 wire hooked up to my K10U, and now the Grandioso hooked up to my Lyra II, and these pairings are perfection in my book.

 

[EffectAudio]

Thanks for the kind words! It is easy to talk so positive, about such a quality cable. Speaking of the Grandioso . . .look below at what showed up yesterday, and a day early at that. I love the color choice and the build quality (braiding) is perfect and I could not be happier with my purchase. Thanks again to EA, for another awesome cable. I currently have a Cleo 4 wire hooked up to my K10U, and now the Grandioso hooked up to my Lyra II, and these pairings are perfection in my book.

Sounds like a great match! When the lockdown is over I'll head over to the store to try it myself. Not a bad color match as well, always a nice finishing touch

 

[EffectAudio]

Happy new year everyone! Let's see what 2021 has to offer. It can only get better right

 

[Deferenz]

Further to me getting a runners up prize in the Christmas photo competition, here is my Thor Silver cable enjoying its new home.

Thank you again Effect Audio

 

[Layman1]

Further to me getting a runners up prize in the Christmas photo competition, here is my Thor Silver cable enjoying its new home.

Thank you again Effect Audio

I love the carrying case, stylish!
Although I think I'd love the cable even more.. Thor II+

 

[Deferenz]

I love the carrying case, stylish!
Although I think I'd love the cable even more.. Thor II+

Thanks @Layman1 , the Thor Silver II+ is a good cable and has fitted in well with my IEMs and Daps.

 

[Vitor Valeri]

@EffectAudio Could you help me explain to a friend of mine that cables don't work exactly the way he's saying? Below is my friend's opinion (in chronological order) about what he thinks of cables.

1st speech from my friend

- Cable is a conductor. He needs to drive well. Be comfortable and light, preferably. Anything beyond that is freshness.
- The cable must interfere as little as possible in the signal passage. That is, apart from specific cases of Campfire Audio Andromeda, for example, the cable must have low impedance and good construction.
- Probably you had changes because you compared with crap cables.
- But it's not for the material. It is due to the characteristics of the cable.
- The conduction difference between copper and silver for a very low current will not make any difference.
- I said that people think that due to the difference of the metal they change the sound.
- When the cable is of good quality and well built it is almost impossible to notice a difference.
- I'm saying that if you have 2 cables with the same dimensions and good construction and one costing 50 dollars and another 500 dollars the difference will be close to zero.
- I didn't say that. I said that if the cables have equal parameters, they will have equal values.
- Each and every cable has numerous parameters. That explain the differences that they generate in each phone, individually.

2nd speech from my friend

- I just don't believe in sound changes in cables with esoteric justifications.
- So much so that there are good and bad cable designs.
- For the engineer to get a good project, he designed it not with guesswork, but with measurements.
- And in relation to cables, the BIGGEST DIFFERENCE that exists in the sound is in relation to the quality of the sound and the parameters that we can measure. Because, when we are talking about good cables, everyone has good copper or good silver, everyone has good connectors and good solder. The difference is due to some questionable things. That they can raise the price absurdly without justifying anything in engineering and the result, most of the time.
- For this, there are numerous engineering and material parameters that guide you to a good signal conduction.
- Besides, of course, the good "protection" and not changing it from point A to point B.
- Cables of 50 dollars or 200 can sound very similar if the quality parameters are followed and both have equivalent quality.

 

[EffectAudio]

@EffectAudio Could you help me explain to a friend of mine that cables don't work exactly the way he's saying? Below is my friend's opinion (in chronological order) about what he thinks of cables.

1st speech from my friend

- Cable is a conductor. He needs to drive well. Be comfortable and light, preferably. Anything beyond that is freshness.
- The cable must interfere as little as possible in the signal passage. That is, apart from specific cases of Campfire Audio Andromeda, for example, the cable must have low impedance and good construction.
- Probably you had changes because you compared with crap cables.
- But it's not for the material. It is due to the characteristics of the cable.
- The conduction difference between copper and silver for a very low current will not make any difference.
- I said that people think that due to the difference of the metal they change the sound.
- When the cable is of good quality and well built it is almost impossible to notice a difference.
- I'm saying that if you have 2 cables with the same dimensions and good construction and one costing 50 dollars and another 500 dollars the difference will be close to zero.
- I didn't say that. I said that if the cables have equal parameters, they will have equal values.
- Each and every cable has numerous parameters. That explain the differences that they generate in each phone, individually.

2nd speech from my friend

- I just don't believe in sound changes in cables with esoteric justifications.
- So much so that there are good and bad cable designs.
- For the engineer to get a good project, he designed it not with guesswork, but with measurements.
- And in relation to cables, the BIGGEST DIFFERENCE that exists in the sound is in relation to the quality of the sound and the parameters that we can measure. Because, when we are talking about good cables, everyone has good copper or good silver, everyone has good connectors and good solder. The difference is due to some questionable things. That they can raise the price absurdly without justifying anything in engineering and the result, most of the time.
- For this, there are numerous engineering and material parameters that guide you to a good signal conduction.
- Besides, of course, the good "protection" and not changing it from point A to point B.
- Cables of 50 dollars or 200 can sound very similar if the quality parameters are followed and both have equivalent quality.

Ah yes, the classic cable debate. One of my greatest pleasures

I used to get into these all the time back in the day. Towards the end I learned that there truly is no point in wasting your energy on them. He is as determined as you are, and there is no way you will convince him with logical arguments. He is referring to impedance, but impedance is not the (primary) determining factor when it comes to differences between quality cables. Maybe just to separate crappy cables from good ones.

Have you let him listen to your different cables? Your only chance of convincing him is if he hears it for himself. Otherwise, just say "cool" and let it rest. I think that's much better for your emotional health than any argument I can craft for you

Ps. I wouldn't want to start a discussion here, but if you would like to engage in the conversation with your friend you can start a new thread in the cable section or post the question in the high-end iem cable thread perhaps? There are bound to be some enthusiasts that can come to your aid.

 

[EffectAudio]

Hello everybody,

As you all know Effect Audio is building the EA club, which will be a platform for EA (and general cable) fans to share their knowledge and passion about our products, but also our general enthusiasm for the hobby. Which cables people enjoy and pairings work well, but also how to analyze sound.

Importantly, it will also be a place where people will be the first to receive news on EA’s happenings. In a later stadium, we are planning on including members earlier on in the development and launch phase, so we can work more closely with the community.

EA Club will soon be releasing a limited edition cable exclusive to the EA Club members only. Furthermore, as a member of EA Club, you'll get a say in voting for the name of this cable. The name is going to be finalized this Friday, so act quick if you'd like a say

All you need to do to join is
1) Join the group: https://bit.ly/3rx8el4
2) Fill in ALL THREE questions in the questionnaire (Only after filling all the questions properly then will the approval system kick in).

Join us now and get in on all the fun

 

[EffectAudio]

Stay tuned!

 

[JonathanKlein]

Can someone please tell me the difference between the 2-pin / CIEM flat connector and the other 2-pin / CIEM connector. Both connectors look round, but the one that is labeled "Flat" appears to be bulkier.

 

[twister6]

Can someone please tell me the difference between the 2-pin / CIEM flat connector and the other 2-pin / CIEM connector. Both connectors look round, but the one that is labeled "Flat" appears to be bulkier.

Links or pictures?

 

[JonathanKlein]

Links or pictures?