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Darn it! And you are probably not going to the Indulgence Show in September, are you? (I think that show is more about headphones and speakers with only a few bits of portable audio there.)Yes, we were pleasantly surprised~! You missed a whole load of fun with us!
Any chance of a balanced (2.5mm TRRS) Ares II becoming available through Amazon UK?
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Hmm, Do you guys think we should come by for Indulgence?
Ares II in 2.5mm balanced will come definitely but not soon. We're slowly uploading our goods to Amazon's warehouse in phases. Do look forward to the Eros II , Thor Silver II & Lionheart for the next update in Amazon UK & Europe!
-Eric
I have never been there, but your products do fit with the whole theme of "The Luxury Audio & Lifestyle Exhibition". Might be worth considering.
Sounds great! I have recently had my Ei.3 reshelled to universal fit and have lost some clarity as a result so I thought I might try upgrading the Eline to and Ares II balanced to get some clarity back. I just find myself reluctant to import something and end up going through all the hassle with customs.Ares II in 2.5mm balanced will come definitely but not soon. We're slowly uploading our goods to Amazon's warehouse in phases. Do look forward to the Eros II , Thor Silver II & Lionheart for the next update in Amazon UK & Europe!
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Gotcha'. Thanks for the tip buddy! Meanwhile i heard @ostewart is loaning you the Ares II. Have fun with it! U can also check our Amazon UK stores in the future though
Cheers,
Eric
Yes, that was very generous of him! I really look forward to trying the Ares II out and seeing if it combines well with my Ei.3 and the balanced out of my AK70. It will give me a bit more insight into how I might fine-tune the signature a little. If it works well then I know what to order and if not I will at least be able to more clearly explain what I would like.Gotcha'. Thanks for the tip buddy! Meanwhile i heard @ostewart is loaning you the Ares II. Have fun with it! U can also check our Amazon UK stores in the future though
Cheers,
Eric
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Another Glowing review of the "Lionheart"~!!
https://twister6.com/2017/07/28/effect-audio-lionheart-premium-cable/
My guest for the next few days just arrived! Ares II (2.5mm TRRS):
Very early impression... Wow! This pairing works amazingly well. I will give it a few days and then share my impressions.
Many thanks to @ostewart for giving me this opportunity!
Very early impression... Wow! This pairing works amazingly well. I will give it a few days and then share my impressions.
Many thanks to @ostewart for giving me this opportunity!
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My guest for the next few days just arrived! Ares II (2.5mm TRRS):
Very early impression... Wow! This pairing works amazingly well. I will give it a few days and then share my impressions.
Many thanks to @ostewart for giving me this opportunity!
Looking good~!! Await to hear your impressions
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Just received my lionheart and Leonidas a few days ago. So happy with the quality and suppleness of the cable. Only starting to use them now but first impressions are just as I remember at canjam.
It's been a while now but wanted to say it was great meeting Eric and thanks for all the advice!
As for the indulgence show, it's a similar hotel environment and would be great to have Effect and all the other guys there. Slightly different atmosphere to canjam. Rhapsodic were there last year I think and looked pretty jet Lagged! I do appreciate all the manufacturers making such a big effort though
It's been a while now but wanted to say it was great meeting Eric and thanks for all the advice!
As for the indulgence show, it's a similar hotel environment and would be great to have Effect and all the other guys there. Slightly different atmosphere to canjam. Rhapsodic were there last year I think and looked pretty jet Lagged! I do appreciate all the manufacturers making such a big effort though
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My guest for the next few days just arrived! Ares II (2.5mm TRRS):
Very early impression... Wow! This pairing works amazingly well. I will give it a few days and then share my impressions.
Many thanks to @ostewart for giving me this opportunity!
Looking good~!! Await to hear your impressions
Ares II with my universal EE Spartan - It's a pretty good pairing depending on the source (I’ve tested on Opus #1, AK70 and Cowon P1 & PD). IMO, it makes the Spartan's treble a little cleaner and adds more low end plus the Mids are a little bit fuller. Overall a very balanced & fun listening experience - great investment IMO. Hope you get the same enjoyment with your Custom Art Ei.3 (I’ve ordered the CA FIBAE 2 and look forward to testing it on that also shortly (once the production waiting game is over…..!!))
Very good looking Spartan's there, I love that colour!Ares II with my universal EE Spartan - It's a pretty good pairing depending on the source (I’ve tested on Opus #1, AK70 and Cowon P1 & PD). IMO, it makes the Spartan's treble a little cleaner and adds more low end plus the Mids are a little bit fuller. Overall a very balanced & fun listening experience - great investment IMO. Hope you get the same enjoyment with your Custom Art Ei.3 (I’ve ordered the CA FIBAE 2 and look forward to testing it on that also shortly (once the production waiting game is over…..!!))
I am enjoying the Ares II tremendously! I have already been listening for almost 10 hours and have written down quite a few thoughts. I will probably post them tomorrow, but can say that the synergy with the Ei.3 is excellent. The Ares II adds focus and depth in ways I have not heard before and yet the end result is still very characteristic of the Ei.3, smooth and thoroughly engaging. I can readily see why Piotr advises the Ares II for the Ei.3.
I haven't heard the FIBAE 2, but look forward to your impressions!
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Another Glowing review of the "Lionheart"~!!
https://twister6.com/2017/07/28/effect-audio-lionheart-premium-cable/
I absolutely love my lionheart.. it had done wonders to my k10.. 100 hrs burn in so far
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Just received my lionheart and Leonidas a few days ago. So happy with the quality and suppleness of the cable. Only starting to use them now but first impressions are just as I remember at canjam.
It's been a while now but wanted to say it was great meeting Eric and thanks for all the advice!
As for the indulgence show, it's a similar hotel environment and would be great to have Effect and all the other guys there. Slightly different atmosphere to canjam. Rhapsodic were there last year I think and looked pretty jet Lagged! I do appreciate all the manufacturers making such a big effort though
Thanks Cho, It was a pleasure meeting you as well. Hmm, Indulgence seems interesting.. perhaps i'll make a comeback! No worries though, EA #Fam deals with jetlag pretty well haha! Hope you're loving the Lionheart & Leonidas. Let me know if you need any A/S support or feedbacks
Ares II with my universal EE Spartan - It's a pretty good pairing depending on the source (I’ve tested on Opus #1, AK70 and Cowon P1 & PD). IMO, it makes the Spartan's treble a little cleaner and adds more low end plus the Mids are a little bit fuller. Overall a very balanced & fun listening experience - great investment IMO. Hope you get the same enjoyment with your Custom Art Ei.3 (I’ve ordered the CA FIBAE 2 and look forward to testing it on that also shortly (once the production waiting game is over…..!!))
Thank you for your kind words. Appreciate the support man!
Glad you're loving the Lionheart so far buddy. Get to 150hrs burn in and tell me about it again
-Eric
Effect Audio Ares II (2.5mm TRRS) impressions
I wanted to share some of my impressions of the Effect Audio Ares II, which was kindly sent to me by @ostewart to try out. Please note that while I try to write down my thoughts sensibly, I am still new to critical listening. This is also not a full review because of a number of things that prevented me from analysing the Ares II properly, time for one, and most notably the lack of an adapter to use this 2.5mm TRRS cable on the SE out of my AK70. So instead I would like to start off by explaining what I hoped to achieve with the balanced Ares II.
It is not a secret that I deeply adore my Custom Art Ei.3 for its smooth and engaging signature, and I still stand firmly behind what I wrote in my review of them. As I mention there, the treble of the Ei.3 is very polite and I have recently found that in particular for classical music I am missing some clarity and would not mind a bit more sparkle in the treble. Some of that clarity might have been lost due to a reshell from custom to universal fit, or perhaps I am simply getting more used to an audiophile signature (brain burn-in). Whatever the case, I wanted to see if I could use a cable to fine-tune the signature a bit.
Because I have not used the balanced out on my AK70 before, I could not say for certain what the switch would do to the signature. I have therefore relied on the various bits of information that were generously shared by fellow Head-fi'ers. Based on that I understood that the balanced out of the AK70 was a bit warmer and more laid-back with a larger soundstage and improved L/R positioning. The Ares II was described as an atypical copper cable with a brighter, more analytical signature and its main strength was its improved treble extension. From this I theorised that the Ares II and the balanced out of my AK70 might well compliment each other by retaining the smooth signature of the Ei.3, but improving clarity, soundstage and the quality of the treble. Of course they could also very well counteract each other and not do anything much at all. So I was very happy to be able to test it.
Build
When I received the Ares II I was pleasantly surprised by its build quality. I had been using an Effect Audio cable already, but that was a preproduction sample of a more affordable cable and could not really compare. The Ares II is quite a thick cable, especially compared to the stock cable of my Ei.3, and yet feels very supple and rests behind my ears quite comfortably despite wearing glasses. The weight is noticeable, but does not bother me. Similarly, I was quite surprised by the splitter, which has been described as quite bulky. It might be nice for the splitter to be a bit smaller, but I did not feel bothered by it at all. The splitter, as well as the balanced plug and 2-pin connectors, feel like high quality parts and make the cable as a whole feel strong and durable. Plus, it is a very good-looking cable!
Sound
I learned about the usefulness of aftermarket cables after I switched from the stock cable of my Ei.3, which had a memory wire that appeared to be intent on chewing off my ears, to the preproduction 'Eline'. To my surprise the Eline not only delicately caressed my ears, it also gave my Ei.3 a bit of extra air to breathe and show what they were capable of. I also learned that the effect of a cable depends on the synergy between the source, cable and IEMs and boy is the synergy between my AK70's balanced out, the Ares II and my Ei.3 good!
Again, I can't really distinguish between what improvements are specifically caused by the balanced out and those by the Ares II, so I will describe the combined result. I think some things will clearly be the result of one or the other, while in other cases it is more likely the combination and synergy between the two.
Presentation
After switching to the balanced Ares II I immediately noticed that the overall sound and presentation was more focused and precise. This might have been because of the nature of a balanced out in combination with the more analytical character of the Ares II. What struck me was that although everything was more focused and precise, it did not adversely affect the smoothness of the Ei.3. In fact, it was like it changed the sound from a woollen smoothness to a honey-like smoothness. Still thick and infinitely enjoyable, but more well-defined against a pitch-black background. This contrasted nicely with the soundstage, which came across to me as about the same size as with the Eline from the SE out, but with the Ares II from the balanced out the boundaries of the stage were less well defined, making it feel more natural.
Bass
Simply put, very impressive. The Ei.3 has a lovely bass that is a bit north of neutral and has this magical property of only ever showing itself when needed. With the Ares II that magic act becomes even more distinct and, above all, remains thoroughly enjoyable. The sub-bass goes a bit deeper and on occasion I felt like there was even a little hint of rumble. Moreover, there is more detail in the sub- and mid-bass, which feel more controlled. I mostly listen to classical music and in Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker the magic act of the bass comes through really well. The piece is generally very light with delicate sounds like fairies flying around your head, but at one point there is a sudden change as the clock strikes midnight. The piece become heavy and oppressively dark as a battle breaks out between the Nutcracker and the Mouse King. The Ares II presents this darkness with, to my inexperienced ears, an unusual amount of air and detail. It is still dark and heavy, but the darkness is deeper and more precise, bringing more emotion to the change in atmosphere and giving a stronger sense of relief when it lifts and the delicate tingling comes back.
A clear step up in the quality, impact and control of the bass.
Mids
When he sent me the Ares II @ostewart had added a cable he had made himself, which was a balanced SPC cable. Naturally I wanted to see what that would do and immediately found it was a mismatch. As with most SPC cables it created a more V-shaped signature by pushing back the mids quite considerably and that ruined the Ei.3's characteristic sound. I mentioned this in my review: the mids are key to creating the coherent and engaging sound of the Ei.3. The Ares II does exactly what is needed and that is to keep those warm, inviting and luscious mids in place. It also creates more clarity and more air in the mids, which significantly improves how the Ei.3 deal with complicated, multi-layered music such as classical symphonies.
I always find it difficult when I discuss instruments that can move from the mids into the treble like pianos and violins. The Ares II makes this even more challenging because I can sense an effect of the improved treble extension or perhaps a peak somewhere in the upper mids or treble (or both) that affects the mids. It is not just that the mids have a better separation and improved layering; it is that instruments present themselves differently. Both the piano and the violin sound natural for longer as they move from the mids towards the treble and, for instance, the keys on the piano sound more well-defined making fast sections sound even faster and more exciting. Even more noticeable is the bite that the Ares II gives guitars, especially electric ones, and brass instruments, and this affects their place in the layering by helping them stand out more.
While I sense a bit of bite to, say, a trumpet, vocals retain the warmth and smoothness I like so much and are improved by the Ares II. Vocals have a bit more body and presence to them, and come across as more natural. Based on the vocal presence I would say that perhaps the Ares II brings the mids a bit more forward.
Overall the mids remain thick, warm and coherent, but they sound more natural (in particular brass and woodwinds) and are more clearly defined.
Treble
I am very treble sensitive and I chose the Ei.3 because of their rolled-off, non-fatiguing treble, so naturally the Ares II's improved treble extension caused me some worries and I initially did not think the Ares II would suit me. Turns out I am an idiot and wrong and gosh if only I had known this earlier. The Ares II made me love sparkling treble!
Yes finally, the Ares II gives the Ei.3 some much-needed sparkle and it is a lovely smooth sparkle I did not think would even be possible. I was surprised by how lovely cymbals sounded, how sparkly and delicate some of the instruments in the Nutcracker were, and how a soprano could reach for the high note and I was not trying to duck for cover. It all sounds lovely and retains that characteristic smoothness of the Ei.3 and there is nothing fatiguing about it at all. Gorgeous! There is now also detail in the treble I have not heard before and although I still do not find the treble region to be the most natural, it is a noticeable improvement.
To my ears the treble is where the Ares II makes its most noticeable improvement to the Ei.3 and I am pleasantly surprised by that. Love the sparkle!
Conclusions
What can I say? I know I need to send the Ares II back, but I don't want to. The synergy is excellent and I love the improvements the balanced Ares II makes. While the change in the bass was impressive, I am, much against my usual treblefobia, most impressed by the improvements in the clarity and upper-mids/treble region. The Ares II makes, to my ears, a significant improvement to a relatively weak aspect of the Ei.3's sound, while still retaining that characteristically smooth and thoroughly engaging signature. I think this makes the Ares II an excellent choice for anyone looking to improve clarity and treble quality while retaining a warmer and more intimate sound.
I wanted to share some of my impressions of the Effect Audio Ares II, which was kindly sent to me by @ostewart to try out. Please note that while I try to write down my thoughts sensibly, I am still new to critical listening. This is also not a full review because of a number of things that prevented me from analysing the Ares II properly, time for one, and most notably the lack of an adapter to use this 2.5mm TRRS cable on the SE out of my AK70. So instead I would like to start off by explaining what I hoped to achieve with the balanced Ares II.
It is not a secret that I deeply adore my Custom Art Ei.3 for its smooth and engaging signature, and I still stand firmly behind what I wrote in my review of them. As I mention there, the treble of the Ei.3 is very polite and I have recently found that in particular for classical music I am missing some clarity and would not mind a bit more sparkle in the treble. Some of that clarity might have been lost due to a reshell from custom to universal fit, or perhaps I am simply getting more used to an audiophile signature (brain burn-in). Whatever the case, I wanted to see if I could use a cable to fine-tune the signature a bit.
Because I have not used the balanced out on my AK70 before, I could not say for certain what the switch would do to the signature. I have therefore relied on the various bits of information that were generously shared by fellow Head-fi'ers. Based on that I understood that the balanced out of the AK70 was a bit warmer and more laid-back with a larger soundstage and improved L/R positioning. The Ares II was described as an atypical copper cable with a brighter, more analytical signature and its main strength was its improved treble extension. From this I theorised that the Ares II and the balanced out of my AK70 might well compliment each other by retaining the smooth signature of the Ei.3, but improving clarity, soundstage and the quality of the treble. Of course they could also very well counteract each other and not do anything much at all. So I was very happy to be able to test it.
Build
When I received the Ares II I was pleasantly surprised by its build quality. I had been using an Effect Audio cable already, but that was a preproduction sample of a more affordable cable and could not really compare. The Ares II is quite a thick cable, especially compared to the stock cable of my Ei.3, and yet feels very supple and rests behind my ears quite comfortably despite wearing glasses. The weight is noticeable, but does not bother me. Similarly, I was quite surprised by the splitter, which has been described as quite bulky. It might be nice for the splitter to be a bit smaller, but I did not feel bothered by it at all. The splitter, as well as the balanced plug and 2-pin connectors, feel like high quality parts and make the cable as a whole feel strong and durable. Plus, it is a very good-looking cable!
Sound
I learned about the usefulness of aftermarket cables after I switched from the stock cable of my Ei.3, which had a memory wire that appeared to be intent on chewing off my ears, to the preproduction 'Eline'. To my surprise the Eline not only delicately caressed my ears, it also gave my Ei.3 a bit of extra air to breathe and show what they were capable of. I also learned that the effect of a cable depends on the synergy between the source, cable and IEMs and boy is the synergy between my AK70's balanced out, the Ares II and my Ei.3 good!
Again, I can't really distinguish between what improvements are specifically caused by the balanced out and those by the Ares II, so I will describe the combined result. I think some things will clearly be the result of one or the other, while in other cases it is more likely the combination and synergy between the two.
Presentation
After switching to the balanced Ares II I immediately noticed that the overall sound and presentation was more focused and precise. This might have been because of the nature of a balanced out in combination with the more analytical character of the Ares II. What struck me was that although everything was more focused and precise, it did not adversely affect the smoothness of the Ei.3. In fact, it was like it changed the sound from a woollen smoothness to a honey-like smoothness. Still thick and infinitely enjoyable, but more well-defined against a pitch-black background. This contrasted nicely with the soundstage, which came across to me as about the same size as with the Eline from the SE out, but with the Ares II from the balanced out the boundaries of the stage were less well defined, making it feel more natural.
Bass
Simply put, very impressive. The Ei.3 has a lovely bass that is a bit north of neutral and has this magical property of only ever showing itself when needed. With the Ares II that magic act becomes even more distinct and, above all, remains thoroughly enjoyable. The sub-bass goes a bit deeper and on occasion I felt like there was even a little hint of rumble. Moreover, there is more detail in the sub- and mid-bass, which feel more controlled. I mostly listen to classical music and in Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker the magic act of the bass comes through really well. The piece is generally very light with delicate sounds like fairies flying around your head, but at one point there is a sudden change as the clock strikes midnight. The piece become heavy and oppressively dark as a battle breaks out between the Nutcracker and the Mouse King. The Ares II presents this darkness with, to my inexperienced ears, an unusual amount of air and detail. It is still dark and heavy, but the darkness is deeper and more precise, bringing more emotion to the change in atmosphere and giving a stronger sense of relief when it lifts and the delicate tingling comes back.
A clear step up in the quality, impact and control of the bass.
Mids
When he sent me the Ares II @ostewart had added a cable he had made himself, which was a balanced SPC cable. Naturally I wanted to see what that would do and immediately found it was a mismatch. As with most SPC cables it created a more V-shaped signature by pushing back the mids quite considerably and that ruined the Ei.3's characteristic sound. I mentioned this in my review: the mids are key to creating the coherent and engaging sound of the Ei.3. The Ares II does exactly what is needed and that is to keep those warm, inviting and luscious mids in place. It also creates more clarity and more air in the mids, which significantly improves how the Ei.3 deal with complicated, multi-layered music such as classical symphonies.
I always find it difficult when I discuss instruments that can move from the mids into the treble like pianos and violins. The Ares II makes this even more challenging because I can sense an effect of the improved treble extension or perhaps a peak somewhere in the upper mids or treble (or both) that affects the mids. It is not just that the mids have a better separation and improved layering; it is that instruments present themselves differently. Both the piano and the violin sound natural for longer as they move from the mids towards the treble and, for instance, the keys on the piano sound more well-defined making fast sections sound even faster and more exciting. Even more noticeable is the bite that the Ares II gives guitars, especially electric ones, and brass instruments, and this affects their place in the layering by helping them stand out more.
While I sense a bit of bite to, say, a trumpet, vocals retain the warmth and smoothness I like so much and are improved by the Ares II. Vocals have a bit more body and presence to them, and come across as more natural. Based on the vocal presence I would say that perhaps the Ares II brings the mids a bit more forward.
Overall the mids remain thick, warm and coherent, but they sound more natural (in particular brass and woodwinds) and are more clearly defined.
Treble
I am very treble sensitive and I chose the Ei.3 because of their rolled-off, non-fatiguing treble, so naturally the Ares II's improved treble extension caused me some worries and I initially did not think the Ares II would suit me. Turns out I am an idiot and wrong and gosh if only I had known this earlier. The Ares II made me love sparkling treble!
Yes finally, the Ares II gives the Ei.3 some much-needed sparkle and it is a lovely smooth sparkle I did not think would even be possible. I was surprised by how lovely cymbals sounded, how sparkly and delicate some of the instruments in the Nutcracker were, and how a soprano could reach for the high note and I was not trying to duck for cover. It all sounds lovely and retains that characteristic smoothness of the Ei.3 and there is nothing fatiguing about it at all. Gorgeous! There is now also detail in the treble I have not heard before and although I still do not find the treble region to be the most natural, it is a noticeable improvement.
To my ears the treble is where the Ares II makes its most noticeable improvement to the Ei.3 and I am pleasantly surprised by that. Love the sparkle!
Conclusions
What can I say? I know I need to send the Ares II back, but I don't want to. The synergy is excellent and I love the improvements the balanced Ares II makes. While the change in the bass was impressive, I am, much against my usual treblefobia, most impressed by the improvements in the clarity and upper-mids/treble region. The Ares II makes, to my ears, a significant improvement to a relatively weak aspect of the Ei.3's sound, while still retaining that characteristically smooth and thoroughly engaging signature. I think this makes the Ares II an excellent choice for anyone looking to improve clarity and treble quality while retaining a warmer and more intimate sound.
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