Effect Audio cables thread
Dec 8, 2022 at 9:40 PM Post #6,436 of 8,007
So here it finally is, the Cadmus 8 Wire. Thoughts and impressions soon.

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Jealous now… I got the 4W :frowning2:

Knowing how great my Ares S and Cadmus 4W are, I can imagine the 8W being amazing!

Looks forward for the review.
 
Dec 8, 2022 at 10:58 PM Post #6,437 of 8,007
Yes I accidently poo pooed the whole launch thing and I apologize to Jordan and the crew for being careless. In any case I am now officially throwing in my $.02 worth. This is what I have written about the Cadmus 8w thus far.
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A new IEM to me is something that comes and goes but a substantial cable will stay with me through the years. Recent Signature series has brought 3 great cables to the market. How do you improve upon what's been established? Well you can start by giving me more. More of what makes the cables excellent. Turn a 4 cored cable to an 8 core and now we are talking serious higher end cable. A good thing is always cherished by the enthusiasts among the community and for folks that enhance their IEMs using metallurgy in the form of cables. It is debatable which sibling of the 3 signature series cables is the most popular. I am sure EA knows but I have a good feeling they are all pretty popular.

My favorite out of the 3 is the Cadmus. I am sure you have seen plenty of readers about the 3 cables and how they all enhance your favorite IEMs but for me there is no question which one gets the most use. I even put it out there. I wished there was an 8 wire version.
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Wish granted. What you guys are seeing is the 8-wire version of the Cadmus. Why is that important? Well for one that is double the material count. If you are into your cables, you know why that is important. This brings a different level of sophistication to what these cables do. What was good with a 4 wired version is not doubled.

Who wants to eat a porterhouse steak that is thin?. I want that meat thick and juicy. The 8 wire cadmus is exactly this. Upon first listen I was greeted with a sound expansion that while the 4 wired version did to a similar effect, but not quite at the level of the 8 wire. Music is given depth, stage and a dimensional aspect the 4w version does not quite do.
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I have always believed in thicker cored cables. I have seen folks post about how they want light thin wires cables as they dont like thick cables. I am actually the opposite. I am a huge fan of cables that have a lot of material thrown in. Reason for this. If the material is gold? Why not get a healthy double dose serving of it?

And that is exactly what the 8w cadmus is about. There is simply more to love. I know exactly what the 4w version does and it is still one of my most used cables ever since EA has introduced me to their handy work. But I have to say, the 8w version came out just brilliantly.

The 8w Cadmus has to be one of the best silver plated copper cables in existence. I know EA has higher end cables but folks, if you liked what Cadmus was doing for your IEMs. Then what the 8w does will blow your mind.
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How do they help shape your IEMs sound? Silver plated copper cables are a staple among enthusiasts and not all SPC cables are the same. Arguably the most versatile type of IEM Cables. I own a boat load of similar type cables and none of them quite approach what the 8w cadmus does for my IEMs.

I am an IEM reviewer so I get to know each and every IEM I write about and once in a while I get a cable that will clearly enhance everything about an IEM sound signature. Enhance it in a way that makes your standard IEM into something almost completely different and we are not talking about a downgrade folks.
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Cadmus 8w, a work of art.
Light cable enthusiasts need not apply. Cus the 8w Cadmus is double the material. However the standard cadmus is no push over, if you want something a bit lighter, I have no reservations recommending the standard 4w version, but if you want a cable that makes your IEMs sound the absolute best they can be, the 8w version to me is special. I have tried easily a dozen IEMs using the 8w and it enhances all of it. What it does for your IEMs are as follows. Some more, some a bit less but this is pretty much consistent across my testing thus far.

-enhances stage perception in all directions.. Go back to using your older cables and your headstage will not be as big, note weight not as substantial. Including the 4w version.

-enhances imaging with added dimensional aspects. It's not just the stage that gets fuller and grander; your sound is better separated with an uptick in 3D ness and imaging of your music.

-enhances detail aspects. That better separation with a clean background lets you hear the little micro details in your music easier as you get that better separation.

-enhances in most cases with a richer tonal character. The foundational aspect of the Cadmus is its superior copper cores. Which as a result

-enhances texture of instruments and vocal performances.

-enhances timbre. What you thought was a good natural timbre for your music out of your IEMs needs a bit of added space for it to be even better try the 8w Cadmus.

-enhances dynamism, that beefier sound your hearing comes with this added benefit.
Which includes a punchier bass presence.

-enhances details for the treble adding a bit of air and space to its presence the handy work of all the silver content of the Candmus 8w.

-most importantly will enhance any type if IEM you attach it to as it should.

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While the 4w does these aspects to a certain degree, you get double the effects and much easier noticed more so with the 8w no question that in this case, more is indeed better.

More to come.
 
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Dec 8, 2022 at 11:59 PM Post #6,438 of 8,007
And here is my impressions of the Ares S 8 W:

In short it is the cable with the most natural uncoloured and extended treble topped with very high resolution I have heard so far. It is so resolving you will need a high resolution IEM to get the most out of it.

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Ares S 8W vs Ares S

My preception of the sound of original Ares S
The Ares S is a rather natural uncoloured cable with good speed. It has the most extended treble and bass and also with the least coloration out of the original Signature series (the Eros S is just a tad behind). Due to the good speed the bass is tight and the background is black and the treble is crisp with medium density. I personally perfer pairing it with some naturally tuned IEMs for the punchy bass and smooth treble extension with a bit of that holographic effect.
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The Eros S, Ares S, Cadmus and Ares S 8W. Missing the Cadmus 8W to complete the collection. :cry:


The Ares S 8W
The Ares S 8W doubled the core, is not exactly double the sound of the Ares S. It's more than that and although they share some similar characters, they sound different.

Treble
The 8W first of all as I mentioned has the most extended treble I have heard. It is in fact so extended that the drivers in your IEMs may not be able to reconstruct all the frequencies but it works well for almost all IEMs. Just like the original Ares S, you will likely get the best results with naturally tuned IEMs and I have very impressive result with the BQEYZ Winter which is a bone conduction based IEM (BC unit for the treble and DD for full frequency).

The treble is not only well extended but also very dense, dynamic yet very smooth. You will immediately hear the extra smoothness and density when switching from the original Ares S. Moreover there is noticible more air around each notes to enhance the immersiveness. The resolution of the cable is also a major improvement over the already very good original, it's like you thougth you have heard everything in the mix and then you realize there is a lot more you can hear without disrupting the musicality. By analogy, it sounds to me you are hearing a music file with twice or more the sampling rate compared to the original like all the gaps between each sample are filled.
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Winter + Ares S 8W (I am very glad that I received the Ares S 8W as I can tell you this is a dream combo!)

Mids
For a rather naturally tuned cable, the mids are pretty similar to the original but just a tad more forward likely due to the increased resolution. The original Ares S has a blacker background for the same reason. The mids are also denser and smoother and a bit more energetic.

Bass
The bass is more punchy and textured. The original is no slouch but the 8W is just more textured and fun. I have been listening to a lot of Alan Walker with the above combo and it's fun, really fun.

Air, staging and resolution, etc.
There is just a lot more air and the stage is more expansive due to the air and the resolution. The resolution as I mentioned is on another level. The combined effect with a good matching IEM is that you don't feel like you are hearing an IEM anymore. It is that good! To be honest this journey has totally widen my horizons of how good a cable and an IEM can sound. Morover, despite having more cores, the 8W actually feels more flexible in hand due to the denser brading with more wires.

Cons
Only two I can think of is first the chin slider is on the slightly heavier side but I am totally fine with the weight and the Signature pouch may not fit the 8W very well due to the extra core!

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Gotta Catch 'Em All!
 
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Dec 9, 2022 at 3:59 AM Post #6,439 of 8,007
Yes I accidently poo pooed the whole launch thing and I apologize to Jordan and the crew for being careless. In any case I am now officially throwing in my $.02 worth. This is what I have written about the Cadmus 8w thus far.


A new IEM to me is something that comes and goes but a substantial cable will stay with me through the years. Recent Signature series has brought 3 great cables to the market. How do you improve upon what's been established? Well you can start by giving me more. More of what makes the cables excellent. Turn a 4 cored cable to an 8 core and now we are talking serious higher end cable. A good thing is always cherished by the enthusiasts among the community and for folks that enhance their IEMs using metallurgy in the form of cables. It is debatable which sibling of the 3 signature series cables is the most popular. I am sure EA knows but I have a good feeling they are all pretty popular.

My favorite out of the 3 is the Cadmus. I am sure you have seen plenty of readers about the 3 cables and how they all enhance your favorite IEMs but for me there is no question which one gets the most use. I even put it out there. I wished there was an 8 wire version.

Wish granted. What you guys are seeing is the 8-wire version of the Cadmus. Why is that important? Well for one that is double the material count. If you are into your cables, you know why that is important. This brings a different level of sophistication to what these cables do. What was good with a 4 wired version is not doubled.

Who wants to eat a porterhouse steak that is thin?. I want that meat thick and juicy. The 8 wire cadmus is exactly this. Upon first listen I was greeted with a sound expansion that while the 4 wired version did to a similar effect, but not quite at the level of the 8 wire. Music is given depth, stage and a dimensional aspect the 4w version does not quite do.

I have always believed in thicker cored cables. I have seen folks post about how they want light thin wires cables as they dont like thick cables. I am actually the opposite. I am a huge fan of cables that have a lot of material thrown in. Reason for this. If the material is gold? Why not get a healthy double dose serving of it?

And that is exactly what the 8w cadmus is about. There is simply more to love. I know exactly what the 4w version does and it is still one of my most used cables ever since EA has introduced me to their handy work. But I have to say, the 8w version came out just brilliantly.

The 8w Cadmus has to be one of the best silver plated copper cables in existence. I know EA has higher end cables but folks, if you liked what Cadmus was doing for your IEMs. Then what the 8w does will blow your mind.

How do they help shape your IEMs sound? Silver plated copper cables are a staple among enthusiasts and not all SPC cables are the same. Arguably the most versatile type of IEM Cables. I own a boat load of similar type cables and none of them quite approach what the 8w cadmus does for my IEMs.

I am an IEM reviewer so I get to know each and every IEM I write about and once in a while I get a cable that will clearly enhance everything about an IEM sound signature. Enhance it in a way that makes your standard IEM into something almost completely different and we are not talking about a downgrade folks.

Cadmus 8w, a work of art.
Light cable enthusiasts need not apply. Cus the 8w Cadmus is double the material. However the standard cadmus is no push over, if you want something a bit lighter, I have no reservations recommending the standard 4w version, but if you want a cable that makes your IEMs sound the absolute best they can be, the 8w version to me is special. I have tried easily a dozen IEMs using the 8w and it enhances all of it. What it does for your IEMs are as follows. Some more, some a bit less but this is pretty much consistent across my testing thus far.

-enhances stage perception in all directions.. Go back to using your older cables and your headstage will not be as big, note weight not as substantial. Including the 4w version.

-enhances imaging with added dimensional aspects. It's not just the stage that gets fuller and grander; your sound is better separated with an uptick in 3D ness and imaging of your music.

-enhances detail aspects. That better separation with a clean background lets you hear the little micro details in your music easier as you get that better separation.

-enhances in most cases with a richer tonal character. The foundational aspect of the Cadmus is its superior copper cores. Which as a result

-enhances texture of instruments and vocal performances.

-enhances timbre. What you thought was a good natural timbre for your music out of your IEMs needs a bit of added space for it to be even better try the 8w Cadmus.

-enhances dynamism, that beefier sound your hearing comes with this added benefit.
Which includes a punchier bass presence.

-renforce les détails pour les aigus en ajoutant un peu d'air et d'espace à sa présence le travail pratique de tout le contenu en argent du Candmus 8w.

-le plus important améliorera tout type si IEM vous l'attachez comme il se doit.


Alors que le 4w fait ces aspects dans une certaine mesure, vous obtenez le double des effets et beaucoup plus facile à remarquer d'autant plus avec le 8w sans aucun doute que dans ce cas, plus c'est mieux.

Plus à venir.
Sur une échelle de 100, si vous mettez le Cadmus x8 à 100, vous mettrez le x4 à combien.

Aussi, dans quels domaines ressentez-vous des différences ou même des améliorations ?
Yes I accidently poo pooed the whole launch thing and I apologize to Jordan and the crew for being careless. In any case I am now officially throwing in my $.02 worth. This is what I have written about the Cadmus 8w thus far.


A new IEM to me is something that comes and goes but a substantial cable will stay with me through the years. Recent Signature series has brought 3 great cables to the market. How do you improve upon what's been established? Well you can start by giving me more. More of what makes the cables excellent. Turn a 4 cored cable to an 8 core and now we are talking serious higher end cable. A good thing is always cherished by the enthusiasts among the community and for folks that enhance their IEMs using metallurgy in the form of cables. It is debatable which sibling of the 3 signature series cables is the most popular. I am sure EA knows but I have a good feeling they are all pretty popular.

My favorite out of the 3 is the Cadmus. I am sure you have seen plenty of readers about the 3 cables and how they all enhance your favorite IEMs but for me there is no question which one gets the most use. I even put it out there. I wished there was an 8 wire version.

Wish granted. What you guys are seeing is the 8-wire version of the Cadmus. Why is that important? Well for one that is double the material count. If you are into your cables, you know why that is important. This brings a different level of sophistication to what these cables do. What was good with a 4 wired version is not doubled.

Who wants to eat a porterhouse steak that is thin?. I want that meat thick and juicy. The 8 wire cadmus is exactly this. Upon first listen I was greeted with a sound expansion that while the 4 wired version did to a similar effect, but not quite at the level of the 8 wire. Music is given depth, stage and a dimensional aspect the 4w version does not quite do.

I have always believed in thicker cored cables. I have seen folks post about how they want light thin wires cables as they dont like thick cables. I am actually the opposite. I am a huge fan of cables that have a lot of material thrown in. Reason for this. If the material is gold? Why not get a healthy double dose serving of it?

And that is exactly what the 8w cadmus is about. There is simply more to love. I know exactly what the 4w version does and it is still one of my most used cables ever since EA has introduced me to their handy work. But I have to say, the 8w version came out just brilliantly.

The 8w Cadmus has to be one of the best silver plated copper cables in existence. I know EA has higher end cables but folks, if you liked what Cadmus was doing for your IEMs. Then what the 8w does will blow your mind.

How do they help shape your IEMs sound? Silver plated copper cables are a staple among enthusiasts and not all SPC cables are the same. Arguably the most versatile type of IEM Cables. I own a boat load of similar type cables and none of them quite approach what the 8w cadmus does for my IEMs.

I am an IEM reviewer so I get to know each and every IEM I write about and once in a while I get a cable that will clearly enhance everything about an IEM sound signature. Enhance it in a way that makes your standard IEM into something almost completely different and we are not talking about a downgrade folks.

Cadmus 8w, a work of art.
Light cable enthusiasts need not apply. Cus the 8w Cadmus is double the material. However the standard cadmus is no push over, if you want something a bit lighter, I have no reservations recommending the standard 4w version, but if you want a cable that makes your IEMs sound the absolute best they can be, the 8w version to me is special. I have tried easily a dozen IEMs using the 8w and it enhances all of it. What it does for your IEMs are as follows. Some more, some a bit less but this is pretty much consistent across my testing thus far.

-enhances stage perception in all directions.. Go back to using your older cables and your headstage will not be as big, note weight not as substantial. Including the 4w version.

-enhances imaging with added dimensional aspects. It's not just the stage that gets fuller and grander; your sound is better separated with an uptick in 3D ness and imaging of your music.

-enhances detail aspects. That better separation with a clean background lets you hear the little micro details in your music easier as you get that better separation.

-enhances in most cases with a richer tonal character. The foundational aspect of the Cadmus is its superior copper cores. Which as a result

-enhances texture of instruments and vocal performances.

-enhances timbre. What you thought was a good natural timbre for your music out of your IEMs needs a bit of added space for it to be even better try the 8w Cadmus.

-enhances dynamism, that beefier sound your hearing comes with this added benefit.
Which includes a punchier bass presence.

-enhances details for the treble adding a bit of air and space to its presence the handy work of all the silver content of the Candmus 8w.

-most importantly will enhance any type if IEM you attach it to as it should.


While the 4w does these aspects to a certain degree, you get double the effects and much easier noticed more so with the 8w no question that in this case, more is indeed better.

More to come.
Hi bro,

On a scale of 100, if you put the Cadmus x8 at 100, you would put the x4 at ?

Also, in what areas do you feel differences or even improvements? :L3000:
Thanks :beerchug:
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 6:33 AM Post #6,440 of 8,007
Cadmus 8W vs 4W. This is chunky bad boy! It looks and feels high quality and connected to IEMs and Dap it looks superb.

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Dec 9, 2022 at 8:05 AM Post #6,441 of 8,007
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Having two of them side by side is just a blessing.
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 9:52 AM Post #6,442 of 8,007
Sur une échelle de 100, si vous mettez le Cadmus x8 à 100, vous mettrez le x4 à combien.

Aussi, dans quels domaines ressentez-vous des différences ou même des améliorations ?

Hi bro,

On a scale of 100, if you put the Cadmus x8 at 100, you would put the x4 at ?

Also, in what areas do you feel differences or even improvements? :L3000:
Thanks :beerchug:
Your not getting exactly double the effects of using double the material if thats what your wondering. I would say the original Cadmus is around 80-85% of that the 8w does.

Cables scale a bit differently when using more material. But it does tip what the 4w does to a different level on the 8w version. Immediate differences are how my IEMs sounds even more dimensional, more spacious. Testing the 4w vs the 8w on the same IEMs yeilds greater space for your music. Wider deeper taller stage. Its like the sound got amplified is the best way to describe it. That extra 15-20% added enhancement is noticeable especailly when you go back to the 4w version. Sound becomes more meaty, better textured, everything the 4w does but ramped up a bit more so. You can say diminishing returns start from the the original signature series. But adding 4 more cores adds a bit of extra sauce that for some will be completely worth the experience.

BA based IEMs and hybrids benefit the most, then dynamic based IEMs Planars not as much for some reason but I can still notice a difference.
 
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Dec 9, 2022 at 11:09 AM Post #6,443 of 8,007
Your not getting exactly double the effects of using double the material if thats what your wondering. I would say the original Cadmus is around 80-85% of that the 8w does.

Cables scale a bit differently when using more material. But it does tip what the 4w does to a different level on the 8w version. Immediate differences are how my IEMs sounds even more dimensional, more spacious. Testing the 4w vs the 8w on the same IEMs yeilds greater space for your music. Wider deeper taller stage. Its like the sound got amplified is the best way to describe it. That extra 15-20% added enhancement is noticeable especailly when you go back to the 4w version. Sound becomes more meaty, better textured, everything the 4w does but ramped up a bit more so. You can say diminishing returns start from the the original signature series. But adding 4 more cores adds a bit of extra sauce that for some will be completely worth the experience.

BA based IEMs and hybrids benefit the most, then dynamic based IEMs Planars not as much for some reason but I can still notice a difference.
Thank you very much :beerchug:
 
Dec 9, 2022 at 10:35 PM Post #6,444 of 8,007
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It turns out that I dont really need any compartmentalisation for the Effect Audio Case.
 
Dec 10, 2022 at 12:08 AM Post #6,445 of 8,007
I‘m curious what is the advantage of more wires vs using a larger gauge of wire? Does having a thicker gauge of wire transfer data better or worse than more wires of a thinner gauge?
 
Dec 10, 2022 at 1:45 AM Post #6,447 of 8,007
I‘m curious what is the advantage of more wires vs using a larger gauge of wire? Does having a thicker gauge of wire transfer data better or worse than more wires of a thinner gauge?

More wires = less overall resistance, less skin effect, less proximity effect. However, the conductors themselves also factor in the overall sound. Some materials such as those from Chiron and Centurion do not need tons of wire strands to be very transparent and resolving sounding
 
Dec 10, 2022 at 5:02 PM Post #6,449 of 8,007
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Thing is awesome. Never knew something like this existed.
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mine will arrive next week, I'm worried it's a little large, manpursy like :)
 
Dec 11, 2022 at 6:34 PM Post #6,450 of 8,007
So I’ve been checking out the Cadmus 8 Wire. EA sent a review unit to me to try out in return for my honest thoughts and impressions.

The first thing I noticed is how big and thick the cable seems in relation to the 4 wire. Of course that is going to be the case as this is 8w and not 4w, but nonetheless it does seem more substantial both in the hand and to the eyes. I mean this in a good way though, and for me, just the look of it fills me with anticipation for what it will enhance or bring out in the music. When I first connected it to my IEMs it seemed like it was going to be quite heavy, but I didn’t actually find that to be the case. I do most of my listening sitting down, but I also walked around a fair bit with the Cadmus 8w to check out the weight and I didn’t have any issues at all. Before doing any listening I let the cable burn in for 90hrs (it should have been 100hrs but I was feeling rebellious!)

First up is with the Legend X. My chain was LX> C8w > SP3000 and playing a mix of HD & MQA from Tidal.

The first thing I get from this is a really smooth and relaxing feel to the music. Nothing here is harsh at all, just a cosy enjoyable listen. There feels like a good bit of air around the notes and vocals. I don’t think I’d say a full on 3D aspect, but it’s certainly in that sort of area.

Treble is well controlled with the 8W which for me is lovely as I’m adverse at anything that reaches too high. Even though the LX is known for its bass, it’s no slouch when it comes to the highs, and I have been caught out before with other cable pair ups that just allow too much of those high notes. So basically if you like your highs delivered well but with a bit of grace and elegance then this may be for you. Mids feel a bit richer and fuller than the 4W but I’m still getting some good separation of instruments with space around both these and vocals.

Legend X is of course known for it bass. The bass via the 8W has a good punch and presence, but there was one thing I found that really got my attention and that was the sub-bass. Not only did I feel it in my chest but it continued to linger as though it was stalking me. I’ve not felt sub-bass like this on any other cable I’ve paired LX with, but I really like it. The main song I use to test sub-bass is ‘Limit to your Love’ by James Blake, and this is where I had the ‘wow!’ moment. I’m going to be checking out this sub-bass element a bit more with this cable as I find it quite intoxicating!

Overall a nice pairing with Cadmus 8W and LX.

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