E1DA USB DAC's - 9038 ( all ) - Power Dac (PDV2) - HP Toy
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Sep 21, 2019 at 7:19 AM Post #61 of 124
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Edit : My E1DA 9038S balanced DAC/AMP has shipped...yes !...looking forward to everything balanced brings to planars...better imaging...separation.....PRaT....bass texture/tightness... :wink:

Balanced does NONE of those things. It provides more power because of the "hot and cold" signals and it's less noisy because it's able to hide the noise in the 2nd signal. If there is any of difference than that it is because the manufacturer made one port better than the other. But balanced connections do not provide any of those things you think you are getting.

Here is a decent read on it..

https://www.boxcast.com/blog/balanced-vs.-unbalanced-audio-whats-the-difference
 
Sep 21, 2019 at 7:30 AM Post #62 of 124
Balanced does NONE of those things. It provides more power because of the "hot and cold" signals and it's less noisy because it's able to hide the noise in the 2nd signal. If there is any of difference than that it is because the manufacturer made one port better than the other. But balanced connections do not provide any of those things you think you are getting.

Here is a decent read on it..

https://www.boxcast.com/blog/balanced-vs.-unbalanced-audio-whats-the-difference
Yes, read all that before, but it always seems like that is the plain difference A/B, so I'll put it down to ports.
(We can at least carry one or two faulty ideas about audio science..haha)
 
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Sep 21, 2019 at 8:20 AM Post #63 of 124
Regards balanced and planars - balanced doesn't inherently bring any of those qualities, but it does bring 4x the output power which many headphones (planars in particular) do benefit from and you may notice improvements depending on how hungry the cans are.
 
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Sep 22, 2019 at 5:14 AM Post #65 of 124
Sep 23, 2019 at 12:49 AM Post #68 of 124
i just order 9038s for my cl2. As the audioscience data, this looks like the cleanest sound for this price and this form factor. The only thing i scared is the practicality. Idk how to make sure everyhting will be controlled in terms of volume.
 
Sep 23, 2019 at 3:42 AM Post #69 of 124
9038s is too darn powerful for my iems, I almost muted music app, the sound still louder than the level I'm used to.
 
Sep 23, 2019 at 3:56 AM Post #70 of 124
9038s is too darn powerful for my iems, I almost muted music app, the sound still louder than the level I'm used to.

Wow this sounds like it may accidentally fry drivers in a sensitive IEMs if we are not careful with the volume.
 
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:25 AM Post #71 of 124
9038s is too darn powerful for my iems, I almost muted music app, the sound still louder than the level I'm used to.
Ar you referring to the just released version 2 of the dac/amp on setting 4 - for high sensitivity IEMs, or the first version that does not have the new high-sensitivity IEM setting ?
 
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Sep 23, 2019 at 4:35 AM Post #73 of 124
Sep 23, 2019 at 4:58 AM Post #74 of 124
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-e1da-9038s-bal-portable-dac-amp.8424/page-28

But from here I see Ivan is developing a new model with Volume control, maybe IEM users better wait a bit longer?

Yes, it's THIS version... It's still in testing... I posted it on the last page. Not sure about Volume control but it can be powered by a phone, no need for a extra battery like the current versions.

According to multiple headfiers requests: 3.5mm jack unbalanced output DAC+HPA 600mW@16ohm in the same case like #9038S with additional 5th operation mode

https://e1dashz.wixsite.com/index/9038d

#9038D

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Specifications(TBD):
Status: proto
Retail cost: TBD(***)

Materials: sandblasted/black anodized aluminum/laser mark/ES9038Q2M/AD8397

Dimensions: 48x22x9mm

Weight: 15g

Power: USB +5V/-5V power rails no internal battery, 170mA idle current, the device contains up to >4000uF of capacitance but IOS/Android devices

start OTG operation without Camera_Adapter and USB OTG Y-splitter cable respectively

Input: USB-C, PCM up to 24b/192kHz

Output: standard unbalanced output 3.5mm jack

Output impedance: .05 Ohm@1000Hz Agilent U1733C

Output power: >340mW@32Ohm@1kHz@THD=1%

Output power: >600mW@16Ohm@1kHz@THD=1%

measured at +.5dbFS level, typical PC USB2 port powered

Frequency response: 10-85kHz +.05/-.2db@ 24b/192kHz

S/N ratio: -123db(A) referenced to 3.399VRMS @32ohm THD+N = 1% @

+.5dbfs typical PC USB2 port powered

DR AES17 121db unweighted

THD@1kHz@-3dbFS .00025% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0004% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0015% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@16Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0004% typical for Normal Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS .25% typical for SE Mode 24b/44.1kHz, almost only 2nd harmonic

Crosstalk: -125db@1kHz
 
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Sep 23, 2019 at 8:38 AM Post #75 of 124
Yes, it's THIS version... It's still in testing... I posted it on the last page. Not sure about Volume control but it can be powered by a phone, no need for a extra battery like the current versions.



https://e1dashz.wixsite.com/index/9038d

#9038D

88f4a9_568f22a2def94c0f94bbd4238988c51a~mv2_d_2004_1347_s_2.webp



Specifications(TBD):
Status: proto
Retail cost: TBD(***)

Materials: sandblasted/black anodized aluminum/laser mark/ES9038Q2M/AD8397

Dimensions: 48x22x9mm

Weight: 15g

Power: USB +5V/-5V power rails no internal battery, 170mA idle current, the device contains up to >4000uF of capacitance but IOS/Android devices

start OTG operation without Camera_Adapter and USB OTG Y-splitter cable respectively

Input: USB-C, PCM up to 24b/192kHz

Output: standard unbalanced output 3.5mm jack

Output impedance: .05 Ohm@1000Hz Agilent U1733C

Output power: >340mW@32Ohm@1kHz@THD=1%

Output power: >600mW@16Ohm@1kHz@THD=1%

measured at +.5dbFS level, typical PC USB2 port powered

Frequency response: 10-85kHz +.05/-.2db@ 24b/192kHz

S/N ratio: -123db(A) referenced to 3.399VRMS @32ohm THD+N = 1% @

+.5dbfs typical PC USB2 port powered

DR AES17 121db unweighted

THD@1kHz@-3dbFS .00025% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0004% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0015% typical for Performance Mode 24b/44.1kHz@16Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS <.0004% typical for Normal Mode 24b/44.1kHz@32Ohm

THD+N@1kHz@-3dbFS .25% typical for SE Mode 24b/44.1kHz, almost only 2nd harmonic

Crosstalk: -125db@1kHz
The s version can be powered by phone too right?
 
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