[swbf2cheater]

I would actually much prefer a cheaper alternative to the Hifiman player that is both an amp and a music player.  If sansa can get a great sounding player into the the sansa clip for $30US
then Im sure Fiio can integrate a small amp just like the E11 but perhaps a little thicker with an internal music player supporting an SD card slot.  Id say goodbye to every other amp and mp3 player Ive ever used or wanted and never look back if that happened, and it seems very doable.  The E11 is actually thinner than the sansa clip with the "clip " portion included and seems to be around the size of the fuze actually.  A guy can dream cant he ?

 

[GeorgeGoodman]

X4 for using Rockbox or making it available to put on there DAP.

 

[EddieE]

+ 1 on a micro SD slot - save the expenses for the components rather than the memory - we can buy our own.
 
Re actaully HAVING rock box as the firmware... loveley idea... but rb is a non-profit venure and FiiO would be making profit on the dap - not sure it could work out.
 
But any party looking to get into the dap game should definitely spend a month with a rockboxed clip, using it every day, to understand what an interface should be like...
 
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But then, having said that, I've just seen dfkts post which was enthusiastic and I know he's close to the rb development crew, so maybe it would be possible.
 
Hell, if it's possible to us RB, Fiio - just do it!

 

[JamesFiiO]

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+ 1 on a micro SD slot - save the expenses for the components rather than the memory - we can buy our own.
 
Re actaully HAVING rock box as the firmware... loveley idea... but rb is a non-profit venure and FiiO would be making profit on the dap - not sure it could work out.
 
But any party looking to get into the dap game should definitely spend a month with a rockboxed clip, using it every day, to understand what an interface should be like...
 
EDIT:
 
But then, having said that, I've just seen dfkts post which was enthusiastic and I know he's close to the rb development crew, so maybe it would be possible.
 
Hell, if it's possible to us RB, Fiio - just do it!

I am not sure whether the rockbox can be used in our DAP, but our design is based on our own design, I hope there will have less bug! and fast response to the key!
 
In fact, we had start developed some MP3 speakers in  3 years ago! I need to say, we are not lack of experience in DAP, but the current solution is a nightmare to us! So we will not let it happen in a decent DAP, consider there
 
already have so many high quality DAP!
 
Also I hope we can focus in our E11 now, maybe we can improve it before our trial production by your advice!
 
About our HD DAP, it will not expensive, and will be different to any current DAP ! but will have most special feacture which listed in preview replies! I will post the outlook and main features before the end of this month!

 

[EddieE]

Sounds promising...
 
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No one seems to notice this but the opamp used on E11 is actually pretty good. AD8397 has internal buffer and 300mA+ of output. It is the same one on Arrow.

 

[dfkt]

Feiao, Rockbox can be adapted to almost any hardware architecture. It already runs on player SoCs as varied as PortalPlayer, Telechips, AMS, Texas Instruments, etc, etc. A Rockchip port has been started as well, AFAIK.

 

[JamesFiiO]

Of course, it had beem proved that RB can be used in so many kind of DAP, but I need to declared, as I know , Only Meizu, have the original SDK from Samsung, and it is not hard to get the SDK from samsung because M6 use
 
2410, but we can only ask our supplier to design the firmware as our request! so I am not sure whether the term can develop such version! btw, our supplier design software to many famous international brand, like Philps and TEAC!
 
We can not get the original SDK and I am not sure anyother person can get that! it is a special solution and that is why I said it had not been used in any other portable DAP!
 
There had been over 10,000 factory who developed MP3, but not more than 3 brand/factory who have the ability to develop firmware by themself! but it can not limite head-direct to develop a HM-801 which the SQ had been proved
 
is very sucess!

 

[Anaxilus]

Not sure how much using a properly spec'd sdxc reader would impact cost versus sdhc but the first DAP to do it successfully would see a significant boost to its potential market share.  Just saying.  Cough, cough.

 

[Mad Lust Envy]

I have the utmost faith in Fiio to bring us another winner. I look forward to both the E11 and DAP.

 

[xXFallenAngelXx]

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I have the utmost faith in Fiio to bring us another winner. I look forward to both the E11 and DAP.

+1 looks like its gonna be a promising year!

 

[EraserXIV]

If possible, better battery life on the E11 would be a great feature people would appreciate. I know the Arrow can get up to 50 hours of playback, the RSA Shadow gets 72 hours, and the iBasso T3 gets 38 hours. If the stated 10 hours is really true, I can see it being a big deal breaker especially since this is targeted as a portable device.
 
I know the Arrow uses a 1200mAh battery.
 
 
Also, please give the mp3 player you're developing at least 16 GB of internal storage plus a microSD card slot. That way people don't have to bring around multiple microSD cards which they will probably lose.

 

[Anaxilus]

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I know the Arrow uses a 1200mAh battery.
 

I believe its some iPod battery, don't know which.

 

[SoulSyde]

You're correct. The Arrow amp does use an iPod battery.

 

[JamesFiiO]

E11 used 750mAh battery!  and due to the current consume is quite high, so the playtime is limited!
 
I don't know how other can do that, but the playtime is test by our condition and usually it is more close to the real playtime!
 
 

 

[GeorgeGoodman]

Do whatever is best for the audio quality. There are always compromises to be made, and I would rather have them made in the area of battery life than in sound quality or power. Because you plan to sell it so inexpensively, people can buy those external batteries for it without going over a reasonable amount, if the life really is a problem. 10 hours is fine for me, as some of my DAPs only get 6-7. That is enough for a day or a long ride (I take breaks from listening, etc).