DX220 A new view to your music. *** LATEST FW: 1.19 Local *** Link for User Guide 1st Page.

May 20, 2019 at 6:53 AM Post #3,497 of 13,489
I just choose "All Music" from the my music menu (swipe from left) then set play mode to shuffle.

You can scan from the android mango app also.
Thank you. I ran it that way all night and when I awoke it was just charging and it said low battery. I guess it will charge up again and I can complete break in.
I have a new Amp 8. How long do I need to attach and break in?
 
May 20, 2019 at 7:22 AM Post #3,499 of 13,489
Thank you. I ran it that way all night and when I awoke it was just charging and it said low battery. I guess it will charge up again and I can complete break in.
I have a new Amp 8. How long do I need to attach and break in?

What was your power source? I left mine burning for the last 4 nights on a wall charger and power stood at 100%. But if you use a normal USB port current might not be enough to feed battery.
A normal USB 2.0 port will deliver only 0.5A, while a 3.0 will do 0.9A, but still I don't know if that will be enough - some laptops have a USB "Charging Port", mine outputs 1.5A and that is OK
My 2 cents
 
May 20, 2019 at 7:40 AM Post #3,500 of 13,489
I would like to have a few words for "update ROMs" here. As you might guess, a software update or improvement only costs time and the development effort. Hardware on the other hand brings further costs of the components, and not easily tweaked. So for a company developing audio devices, software tweaks and improvements nearly free of charge to tweak the software for the best possible outcome.

Also the companies are not just taking an evaluation board, modifying/adding components to it and throwing it infront of you. They go through lots of iterations and with proper measurement devices to find the optimal sound. For example, if your analogue department, clocks has their limitations, no matter how much you push your DACs, you will not see any improvements.

I see it very highly unlikely for anyone to come up and say "hey, I improved the sound with a simple software update". It is very highly unlikely that the company (e.g. iBasso) has forgotten something leaving room for an obvious sound improvement through software, as long as you are not enabling a feature of the DAC chip which might have been disabled due to power consumption requirements. But that needs real deep register level hacking of the DAC chips and this information is, for example in case of ESS chips, is only available under NDA (non-disclosure agreement). Also you need to have the source code to that part of the driver.

So, any claim that a simple tweaked firmware would improve the sound quality is very very.... VERY... unlikely. Software experience can be improved, yes. Hardware can be tweaked yes. But sound quality improvement through simple software update? As said, unlikely.
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:01 AM Post #3,501 of 13,489
And back to the music IMG_20190520_130055.jpg
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:10 AM Post #3,502 of 13,489
So could someone give us a real world performance improvement description after downloading Lurker add on. I don’t want to change anything from stock unless there is a significant noticeable improvement, free or not.

TY
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:17 AM Post #3,503 of 13,489
So could someone give us a real world performance improvement description after downloading Lurker add on. I don’t want to change anything from stock unless there is a significant noticeable improvement, free or not.

TY

As far as I know, Lurker never claimed an improved in audio quality but usability, software experience and power management. Just have a look at his GitHub page for more info:

https://github.com/Lurker00/DX220-Firmware-Add-on/tree/master
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:19 AM Post #3,504 of 13,489
I would like to have a few words for "update ROMs" here. As you might guess, a software update or improvement only costs time and the development effort. Hardware on the other hand brings further costs of the components, and not easily tweaked. So for a company developing audio devices, software tweaks and improvements nearly free of charge to tweak the software for the best possible outcome.

Also the companies are not just taking an evaluation board, modifying/adding components to it and throwing it infront of you. They go through lots of iterations and with proper measurement devices to find the optimal sound. For example, if your analogue department, clocks has their limitations, no matter how much you push your DACs, you will not see any improvements.

I see it very highly unlikely for anyone to come up and say "hey, I improved the sound with a simple software update". It is very highly unlikely that the company (e.g. iBasso) has forgotten something leaving room for an obvious sound improvement through software, as long as you are not enabling a feature of the DAC chip which might have been disabled due to power consumption requirements. But that needs real deep register level hacking of the DAC chips and this information is, for example in case of ESS chips, is only available under NDA (non-disclosure agreement). Also you need to have the source code to that part of the driver.

So, any claim that a simple tweaked firmware would improve the sound quality is very very.... VERY... unlikely. Software experience can be improved, yes. Hardware can be tweaked yes. But sound quality improvement through simple software update? As said, unlikely.
Has anyone started to stream from WiFi with either Tidal or Quboz and can this be done from only Android Mango? What about playing from downloads? Is the battery drain much more rapid with WiFi streaming? Has anyone streamed through optical out from DX220 to an external DAC? Is this even possible?
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:31 AM Post #3,506 of 13,489
I would like to have a few words for "update ROMs" here. As you might guess, a software update or improvement only costs time and the development effort. Hardware on the other hand brings further costs of the components, and not easily tweaked. So for a company developing audio devices, software tweaks and improvements nearly free of charge to tweak the software for the best possible outcome.

Also the companies are not just taking an evaluation board, modifying/adding components to it and throwing it infront of you. They go through lots of iterations and with proper measurement devices to find the optimal sound. For example, if your analogue department, clocks has their limitations, no matter how much you push your DACs, you will not see any improvements.

I see it very highly unlikely for anyone to come up and say "hey, I improved the sound with a simple software update". It is very highly unlikely that the company (e.g. iBasso) has forgotten something leaving room for an obvious sound improvement through software, as long as you are not enabling a feature of the DAC chip which might have been disabled due to power consumption requirements. But that needs real deep register level hacking of the DAC chips and this information is, for example in case of ESS chips, is only available under NDA (non-disclosure agreement). Also you need to have the source code to that part of the driver.

So, any claim that a simple tweaked firmware would improve the sound quality is very very.... VERY... unlikely. Software experience can be improved, yes. Hardware can be tweaked yes. But sound quality improvement through simple software update? As said, unlikely.

Do you remember DX100? In the thread, they are talking a lot about how to flash the russian fw and many people can percieve the change of sound.

So I think it is likely to tweak rom for sound improvement?
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:44 AM Post #3,507 of 13,489
Do you remember DX100? In the thread, they are talking a lot about how to flash the russian fw and many people can percieve the change of sound.

So I think it is likely to tweak rom for sound improvement?

I have given my opinion on this based on about 20 years engineering experience - true, not in audio field but I have taken part in many projects both in consumer products and other industries. Everyone is free to believe in what makes them happy (audiophilism is a religion, not a science) it just is not a claim I would have taken seriously. If someone thinks there is improvement, then go ahead and do what makes you happy. :)
 
May 20, 2019 at 8:45 AM Post #3,508 of 13,489
May 20, 2019 at 8:48 AM Post #3,510 of 13,489
HiBy Music / HiBy link come to mind. FiiO’s player does the same these days I think, but not sure if it’s available for general download...
I actually have Hiby Music on my phone as I use it to control my N8. I was able to get Hiby Music installed on the DX 220 but I could not get them to communicate... maybe I'll try the Fiio app when I get home later today.
 

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