DX200=Affordable High End Audio. Dual ES9028Pro dacs. AMP1, AMP3, AMP5, AMP7 & AMP8 ***Firmware support now up for AMP9***
Jan 30, 2018 at 4:06 PM Post #11,011 of 22,021
What headphone do you use Amp5 with? Did you try Amp3 or only 1 and 5 ?

Related question - most Amp5 discussions relate to IEM's as far as I can tell. I'm on the fence as I am in doubt as to whether my Hifiman 400s's will be any better SE with Amp5 compared to balanced on Amp1.
(I read one comment that Amp5 SE gave a similar soundstage/SQ to Amp1 balanced....). I'm about to take delivery of a set of Philips Fidelio X2's (SE only) so things get more complicated.....
 
Jan 30, 2018 at 4:56 PM Post #11,012 of 22,021
Until about 5 months ago, I was using an AR-M2 as my portable music player. I acquired it about 2 years ago to replace a Fiio X5. My problem with the X5 was the analog amp simply didn't have enough power to deliver strong and well controlled bass. When paired with an external amp, the sound was great, but I got tired of carrying and charging two separate pieces. The AR-M2 solved this problem as it has a very strong analog amp and did not need any external support. In fact, the sound overall was great. However, the user interface was problematic and I got tired of waiting 2 years for a firmware update. Of course, shortly after I bought the DX200, AR finally did provide a much improved UI and updated firmware. Now my wife is enjoying the AR.

In any case, I was very excited to get the DX200 given the strong firmware support from ibasso and Lurker. I was a bit disappointed by the sound from AMP1. It felt like a bit of a throwback to the Fiio in that the bass was not strong and well controlled. Now that I have AMP5, the problems are solved. With AMP5, I think the DX200 sounds just as good as the AR-M2 while providing a better UI and greater compatibility with various micro-SD cards (the AR was a bit finicky).

Note that I do almost all my listening with Sony XBA-Z5 IEMs.

I did not want to go to a balanced set up as I use the Z5 for listening to movies on planes and switching cables or fiddling with adapters every time I want to switch from DAP to airplane and back is too much hassle.

In short, I think AMP5 is a big improvement over AMP1 and likely will satisfy unless your phones are particularly difficult to drive.

Hi, thank you.
From my research I felt amp5 was the way to go, also as i don't yet have a balanced cable.
Although I do enjoy analytical listening from time to time I mainly just enjoy/relax, the described character of amp5 was what was needed if accurate.
My headphones, Focal Clear, are not hard to drive, easier in fact, than the Elear or Eutopia which aren't that hard to begin with.
These headphones will show up any failings on part of the DAP, mind you, so it will have to be as good as the Mojo or at least have a signature that greatly appeals to me.
My IEM's are Audiofly AF180, they are great out the Mojo too, I prefer them to Shure SE535, easy enough to drive.
There's only a handful of tracks that I really like to turn up on so amp5 should be adequate with plenty headroom.
Amp1 should be interesting, I can get an adapter for the balanced XLR cable that comes with the Focal Clear, that cables too long at 3m for portable use though. I may get a shorter 4.4 balanced later on to try the amp4.

It will be nice not to have to muck about with Mojo/poly and don't think it will stream Qobuz with the "Go figure" Poly app when it eventually arrives, not sure on that though, I could be wrong. Pretty sure it won't play offline Qobuz though, which I presume Android / DX200 will?

Regarding "burn in" .... Who am I to argue with iBasso. They supply the cable so they must believe.
I remember years ago we used to burn in our Ham Radios, (not talking valve, they certiamly did need it) the character of the transmitted and received audio did change, but as I said that was many moons ago.

If pink/white noise is best are the files readily available ?? ... I presume they are just looped? A mix of pink then white then pink and so on?
Never done this before, just played music burning in my headphones. .... The Focal Clear did benefit I'm sure.
 
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Jan 30, 2018 at 9:42 PM Post #11,013 of 22,021
My Amp5 dropped today! Compared with the Amp1 and the DITA The Answer IEMs, on first listen there seems to be better treble resolution and the mids are clearer too. The highs sound a little spitty/splashy, but that's probably because it's not burned in. It's a very encouraging first listen though!
 
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Jan 31, 2018 at 1:50 AM Post #11,014 of 22,021
My Amp5 dropped today! Compared with the Amp1 and the DITA The Answer IEMs, on first listen there seems to be better treble resolution and the mids are clearer too. The highs sound a little spitty/splashy, but that's probably because it's not burned in. It's a very encouraging first listen though!

That ...and soundstage increased for me as well...Cant stop listening to the DX200 (AMP5) when on the go.
 
Jan 31, 2018 at 1:54 AM Post #11,015 of 22,021
Jan 31, 2018 at 2:38 AM Post #11,016 of 22,021
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Still simply divine - iBasso DX200 (amp 1), ALO Audio balanced Litz cable and Campfire Audio Andromeda


Also got sent a MITER case designed for the iBasso DX200.
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Jan 31, 2018 at 3:08 AM Post #11,017 of 22,021
So I took the plunge to balanced and just received the iBasso CB12 cable + AMP3 and I must say this is my favorite combination so far with my Westone W60s! It's my first time trying balanced and to me the sound is more open and lively, even with the AMP1. I spent hours going back and forth from AMP1 balanced to AMP3 balanced to AMP1 single ended to AMP5 single ended (using the Mango OS player and Neutron Player in Android mode). This new balanced signature could potentially be fatiguing (vocals and mids are more up front) though so we'll see how it goes with longer term listening sessions. For a more laid back session the AMP1 single ended is the winner. I'm going to sell the AMP5 I recently bought from iBasso since I'm in the US and it'd cost me extra $$ to ship back to China. Let me know if anyone is interested in buying it (especially if you're in the US). Looking forward to seeing how my ears respond to my new combo tomorrow!
 
Jan 31, 2018 at 3:16 AM Post #11,018 of 22,021
So I took the plunge to balanced and just received the iBasso CB12 cable + AMP3 and I must say this is my favorite combination so far with my Westone W60s! It's my first time trying balanced and to me the sound is more open and lively, even with the AMP1. I spent hours going back and forth from AMP1 balanced to AMP3 balanced to AMP1 single ended to AMP5 single ended (using the Mango OS player and Neutron Player in Android mode). This new balanced signature could potentially be fatiguing (vocals and mids are more up front) though so we'll see how it goes with longer term listening sessions. For a more laid back session the AMP1 single ended is the winner. I'm going to sell the AMP5 I recently bought from iBasso since I'm in the US and it'd cost me extra $$ to ship back to China. Let me know if anyone is interested in buying it (especially if you're in the US). Looking forward to seeing how my ears respond to my new combo tomorrow!

Wow really, yeah again it must be emphasied that synergy plays a big part in the chain. With the Lab1, AMP1 sounded cold and too clinical for my tastes. Kinda boring tbh.
With the AMP5 however, it brought SOUL to the music. Sounded a little like a tube amp.
So now, AMP1 is in its box, locked and never to be heard again. lol
 
Jan 31, 2018 at 3:22 AM Post #11,019 of 22,021
Wow really, yeah again it must be emphasied that synergy plays a big part in the chain. With the Lab1, AMP1 sounded cold and too clinical for my tastes. Kinda boring tbh.
With the AMP5 however, it brought SOUL to the music. Sounded a little like a tube amp.
So now, AMP1 is in its box, locked and never to be heard again. lol
100% agree synergy is crucial. My Westones sound completely different with AMP1 vs. my Beyer T50P on-ear headphones. I was also able to test the Audeze LCD-MX4 with AMP5 last week and those cans are pretty impressive, just a little pricey :)
 
Jan 31, 2018 at 3:30 AM Post #11,020 of 22,021
Anyone can compare AMP3 vs AMP5 please?
 
Jan 31, 2018 at 4:09 AM Post #11,021 of 22,021
Anyone can compare AMP3 vs AMP5 please?

I think this is as good a comparison as you can get :)
https://twister6.com/2017/12/01/ibasso-amp3-amp4-and-amp5-modules-for-dx200/

100% agree synergy is crucial. My Westones sound completely different with AMP1 vs. my Beyer T50P on-ear headphones. I was also able to test the Audeze LCD-MX4 with AMP5 last week and those cans are pretty impressive, just a little pricey :)

Wow nice addition to the lineup, lower impedance seems to be trending, MX4 has even lower impedance than the LCD i4, if it pairs up as well with AMP5 as the i4 you're in for pure bliss :D
 
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Jan 31, 2018 at 11:28 AM Post #11,022 of 22,021
Probably this has been already answered but, which are the settings in Neutron Player to be able to play HD and bit perfect files? I am running current latest version
 
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Jan 31, 2018 at 8:20 PM Post #11,024 of 22,021

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