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Don't get why "Audiophile" USB Cable would improve sound quality
Jun 8, 2011 at 11:51 AM Post #409 of 835


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svyr said:
maybe some rightmark tests http://audio.rightmark.org/index_new.shtml
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All they will measure is the noise floor and distortion of the dac.
 
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 12:29 PM Post #411 of 835


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kr0gg said:
your results actually differ.
i guess that proves that USB cables are not the same?
 
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at the bottom of the largest spike they slightly do. maybe 10mv or something. Can't see anything else.
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Is it not more like 1mV? Even then it is at the same time. How audible is that going to be (he said banging on like a stuck record, but audibility is the elephant in the room many want to ignore
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Jun 8, 2011 at 12:49 PM Post #412 of 835


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kr0gg said:
your results actually differ.
i guess that proves that USB cables are not the same?
 
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The difference is extremely minimal. Any of these "micro" differences is probably induced by the tolerance of the analog circuitry. Please mind the signal is DA-AD and passes through the analog domain. There is a lot of (pro) gear out there which won't give you such a clear "matching" result on 2 measurements, even when taken under identical circumstances.
 
 
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 1:12 PM Post #415 of 835
you know, that is really funny.
at first (during a LOT of forum pages) you decline that there is ANY difference at all, and when finally you yourself discover one, you refuse to see it :)
i wouldn't call that a scientific approach (as you try to make us belive it is). i would call that a "cable-nihilism"
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 1:28 PM Post #416 of 835
The difference is unmistakable, sound changing, and is radically different. Second only to using better headphones or a much higher end Dac/amp.
 
Krogg is completely right. You don't give it a chance. Even when there's a glimmer of proof that is along lines you are willing to accept, you reject it. Complete cable-nihilism.
 
All of you 'denyers' have said controversial, nonsensical, paradoxical things. Thier 'Anecdote vs Theory' battle or whatever it is they are trying to communicate is way out of hand. Not to mention certainly circular and pointless.
 
The bottom line is there are differences and they are not minimal, as every person who has tried instantaneously comes to realize. (Magic?) Furthermore, people are describing the differences in great detail their sound has made. Does that sound like bs to you?
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 2:13 PM Post #417 of 835


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kr0gg said:
you know, that is really funny.
at first (during a LOT of forum pages) you decline that there is ANY difference at all, and when finally you yourself discover one, you refuse to see it :)
i wouldn't call that a scientific approach (as you try to make us belive it is). i would call that a "cable-nihilism"
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erm, do you really know how an audible difference would look like as an impulse response?
 
 
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM Post #418 of 835


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hennyo said:
The difference is unmistakable, sound changing, and is radically different. Second only to using better headphones or a much higher end Dac/amp.
 
Krogg is completely right. You don't give it a chance. Even when there's a glimmer of proof that is along lines you are willing to accept, you reject it. Complete cable-nihilism.
 
All of you 'denyers' have said controversial, nonsensical, paradoxical things. Thier 'Anecdote vs Theory' battle or whatever it is they are trying to communicate is way out of hand. Not to mention certainly circular and pointless.
 
The bottom line is there are differences and they are not minimal, as every person who has tried instantaneously comes to realize. (Magic?) Furthermore, people are describing the differences in great detail their sound has made. Does that sound like bs to you?
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Error correction circuits in the DAC will fix small errors like that. You will not hear the difference.
 
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM Post #419 of 835


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mrproggie said:
Error correction circuits in the DAC will fix small errors like that. You will not hear the difference.
 
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Every cable would have a different graph like that. That's getting utterly nitty gritty moving towards exhausting uselessness. You don't want to try it, then DON'T. But get off those who have, especially when the masses say they enjoy the difference their cable clearly make in their system. Jeebus
This is a circular argument which leads nowhere. Let the people decide. Have you tried it? No? Then your opinion is worth less. (If anything at all)
 
Just because you can't comprehend something at this time does not mean it doesn't exist at all.
 
 
 
Jun 8, 2011 at 2:51 PM Post #420 of 835


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hennyo said:
Every cable would have a different graph like that. That's getting utterly nitty gritty moving towards exhausting uselessness. You don't want to try it, then DON'T. But get off those who have, especially when the masses say they enjoy the difference their cable clearly make in their system. Jeebus
This is a circular argument which leads nowhere. Let the people decide. Have you tried it? No? Then your opinion is worthless.
 
 
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This is only a circular argument because cable believers make it so, multiple pieces of evidence have been provided that show there is no difference...
but do you accept that , no you are to wrapped up in your fantasy reality that you just go into complete denial and attack people.
If you can "hear a difference, it is because your mind is playing tricks with you, whether you are happy with imaginary differences or not is up to you.
 
I would just like to remind you your opinion is not valid and is completely worthless, you are massively bias towards your own self-interest, test and measurements on the other hand are not.
 
 
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