From my experience, those foam arent acoustically transparent. Different density and thickness could alter the sound.Thank you.
Aren't the foams acoustically transparent? Do you think sound differences are related to the foam thickness moving the driver closer or further away from our ear canal?
I have made 3 DIY sets and and I have used the same thing donut foam for each.
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DIY Earbuds
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lordearl
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Does anyone have links to downloads for 3D printable shells?
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You are saying that full covers make the earbud sound different to donuts or no covers?From my experience, those foam arent acoustically transparent. Different density and thickness could alter the sound.
Spent and hour or so comparing donuts and full covers on my TGX Serratus. I wasn't able to detect any difference at all. I guess that's good for me. I don't have to fuss about which covers to use.From my experience, those foam arent acoustically transparent. Different density and thickness could alter the sound.
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I can't remember a single instance where I liked a bud both naked AND with donut foams. Almost everything gets way too muddy for me.You are saying that full covers make the earbud sound different to donuts or no covers?
Spent and hour or so comparing donuts and full covers on my TGX Serratus. I wasn't able to detect any difference at all. I guess that's good for me. I don't have to fuss about which covers to use.
Generally speaking, thinner foams will block out less of the treble, making you notice more bass.
Bass will also increase when the driver "faceplate" is touching your ear's conch, since it will create more air pressure.
When I'm trying out new buds or tuning my own, this is what I usually assume will happen:
- Very thin foams (the really thin ones, that sometimes cause my ears to itch lol)
- They will increase bass very slightly because the earbuds are touching the conch
- Mids and treble can sound more airy and open due to it being very thin; Sometimes too much
- Thin foams
- Usually reduces those harsh treble spikes, it's my favorite type of foam, overall. That is, considering the sound that I already like on naked buds, it's usually what I use
- Can sometimes reduce treble a bit too much
- Regular foams (the ones included on most earbuds you'll purchase)
- They usually reduce treble very noticeably
- Reduced treble can sometimes lead to muddier sound, I save these mostly for very bright earbuds
- Donut foams
- I don't really like donut foams, I've only ever used it consistently with the Moondrop Nameless (combined a regular foam and a donut foam on top of it), because it's just way too bright.
- It became my go-to earbuds for FPS games, mostly MW 2019, because it was still very bright lol, the lack of bass and sub bass made it almost a wallhack
- I think the acoustic changes the donut foams cause are just incompatible with my sound preferences for naked buds, so I'll only use those on buds that I outright dislike.
- I don't really like donut foams, I've only ever used it consistently with the Moondrop Nameless (combined a regular foam and a donut foam on top of it), because it's just way too bright.
Funny thing is that I can almost never stand donut foams and like the regular foams that tgxear ships with lol
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What do people thing are the absolutely best diy buds?
I love the resolution of the TGX Serratus. I have been building a few sets all using mx500 shells with drivers of various prices. I am very excited to see whether there is a diy option even better than the Serratus.
I love the resolution of the TGX Serratus. I have been building a few sets all using mx500 shells with drivers of various prices. I am very excited to see whether there is a diy option even better than the Serratus.
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It seems reasonable that foams that interfere with the seal between the earbud and the ear will result in a loss of bass. I haven't had the experience of foams reducing treble.I can't remember a single instance where I liked a bud both naked AND with donut foams. Almost everything gets way too muddy for me.
Generally speaking, thinner foams will block out less of the treble, making you notice more bass.
Bass will also increase when the driver "faceplate" is touching your ear's conch, since it will create more air pressure.
When I'm trying out new buds or tuning my own, this is what I usually assume will happen:
- Very thin foams (the really thin ones, that sometimes cause my ears to itch lol)
- They will increase bass very slightly because the earbuds are touching the conch
- Mids and treble can sound more airy and open due to it being very thin; Sometimes too much
- Thin foams
- Usually reduces those harsh treble spikes, it's my favorite type of foam, overall. That is, considering the sound that I already like on naked buds, it's usually what I use
- Can sometimes reduce treble a bit too much
- Regular foams (the ones included on most earbuds you'll purchase)
- They usually reduce treble very noticeably
- Reduced treble can sometimes lead to muddier sound, I save these mostly for very bright earbuds
- Donut foams
- I don't really like donut foams, I've only ever used it consistently with the Moondrop Nameless (combined a regular foam and a donut foam on top of it), because it's just way too bright.
- It became my go-to earbuds for FPS games, mostly MW 2019, because it was still very bright lol, the lack of bass and sub bass made it almost a wallhack
- I think the acoustic changes the donut foams cause are just incompatible with my sound preferences for naked buds, so I'll only use those on buds that I outright dislike.
Funny thing is that I can almost never stand donut foams and like the regular foams that tgxear ships with lol
Thanks heaps for your detailed response
Few housing to play around.
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Marathoned my way through the thread and just ordered way too much stuff from Aliexpress. Looking forward to testing these three drivers which seem to get mentioned as decent:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...der_detail.order_detail_item.9.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.13.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.15.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
If all goes well, I'll probably snap and buy this 600ohm set of drivers out of curiosity:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...!sea!UK!724410456!&curPageLogUid=3149DfDwPE2O
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...der_detail.order_detail_item.9.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.13.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.15.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
If all goes well, I'll probably snap and buy this 600ohm set of drivers out of curiosity:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...!sea!UK!724410456!&curPageLogUid=3149DfDwPE2O
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I recently bought most of the same drivers. I have been assembling, but not yet started tuning.Marathoned my way through the thread and just ordered way too much stuff from Aliexpress. Looking forward to testing these three drivers which seem to get mentioned as decent:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...der_detail.order_detail_item.9.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.13.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100...er_detail.order_detail_item.15.1cf9f19cE5xjlQ
If all goes well, I'll probably snap and buy this 600ohm set of drivers out of curiosity:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004026506790.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.65a130d7CfoCSW&algo_pvid=c0485be1-e49f-4613-af5d-dced7fd32137&algo_exp_id=c0485be1-e49f-4613-af5d-dced7fd32137-0&pdp_npi=4@dis!GBP!42.29!30.45!!!52.26!!@211b801917036981217356612e6cd8!12000027788174506!sea!UK!724410456!&curPageLogUid=3149DfDwPE2O
My latest build:
These are my "Ariana".
If you're interested to build a set, here's the parts. It is not drag and drop.
130Ω Beryllium driver and Huayunxin 15.4mm Waist Drum shell.
These are my "Ariana".
If you're interested to build a set, here's the parts. It is not drag and drop.
130Ω Beryllium driver and Huayunxin 15.4mm Waist Drum shell.
Hey guys Im new here. Have you a chart or something for these drivers to explain sound quality?
Which one is better for sound?
Which one is better for sound?
AsciiSuki's DIY Flat-head earbud (15.4mm)Does anyone have links to downloads for 3D printable shells?
@Mr.HiAudio RIOBuds (github has not been updated lately): https://github.com/RomanLikhachev/RIOBuds
also Version3 RIOBuds post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/post-17249223
Link in this post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/diy-earbuds.822327/post-17737546Hey guys Im new here. Have you a chart or something for these drivers to explain sound quality?
Which one is better for sound?
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AsciiSuki's DIY Flat-head earbud (15.4mm)
@Mr.HiAudio RIOBuds (github has not been updated lately): https://github.com/RomanLikhachev/RIOBuds
also Version3 RIOBuds post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/earbuds-round-up.441400/post-17249223
Link in this post: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/diy-earbuds.822327/post-17737546
The RIOBuds look awesome.
Has anyone made the MMCX version? The files don't appear to have been uploaded anywhere as yet.
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My order of the 64ohm Comp. Ti. just arrived. Very popular here. I just put them together, stock, no mods and wow they sound pretty damn good--I can't imagine what modding them would do. I'm still waiting for a few pieces to arrive before I mod them, being it would be my first attempt at a rivet mod.
Which shell are you using. I found the 64 ohm Comp Ti. driver to be very muffled. Removing the stock damping pad improved it a tiny bit.
Why not message @Mr.HiAudio and ask him?The RIOBuds look awesome.
Has anyone made the MMCX version? The files don't appear to have been uploaded anywhere as yet.
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