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Nov 24, 2020 at 3:43 PM Post #2,431 of 4,721
I find the 120Ω Berylliums borderline too polite in the upper mid-range/lower treble and lacking resolution/detail unless they are provided more power than a typical cellphone output.



I haven't tried those. How do they compare to the 150Ω redfilm? (I may have asked this before...)
I don't know. I'm also interested in these.
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 3:49 PM Post #2,432 of 4,721
According to @assassin10000, it seems that the 14.8mm 120Ohm bery drivers have (too) rolled off bass.

Bass is good on them. Just borderline too low on the pinna gain area. Sits at about +8db iirc, my personal sweet spot seems to be around +10db +/- 1 or 2 db. Above that can be a bit fatiguing and below that a bit boring.

I don't know. I'm also interested in these.

Uhhh... Which ones?
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 3:52 PM Post #2,433 of 4,721
@furyossa

Aren't the 32ohms pk1 red film vocal-oriented?

What about the 150 Ohm 'transparent film'? Have you already tested them?

According to @assassin10000, it seems that the 14.8mm 120Ohm bery drivers have (too) rolled off bass.


@Themilkman46290
Do the 500ohm have a dark sound?




Fixed!
Thank you.
PK1 150 Ohm 'transparent film' and 32ohm "pink film" are vocal-oriented
Graphene drivers rarely have a dark sound. Also depends on tuning
I own QKZ VK4 and AK1 and both use graphene drivers. Not "dark" in here except the shell color :wink: Bass is stronger
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 4:00 PM Post #2,434 of 4,721
Bass is good on them. Just borderline too low on the pinna gain area. Sits at about +8db iirc, my personal sweet spot seems to be around +10db +/- 1 or 2 db. Above that can be a bit fatiguing and below that a bit boring.



Uhhh... Which ones?
Both 32ohm and 120ohm 14.8mm. Until recently I didn't know about the 14.8mm version. I have only 3 x 130ohm "8-packs". "Love at first sight" :heart::blue_heart::green_heart:
 
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Nov 24, 2020 at 4:05 PM Post #2,435 of 4,721
@assassin10000 Have you tried maybe to measure earbuds with iMM6 + AudioTool (android) and convert *.at file from AudioTool for use in REW?
 
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Nov 24, 2020 at 4:33 PM Post #2,436 of 4,721
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Nov 24, 2020 at 4:34 PM Post #2,437 of 4,721
@assassin10000 Have you tried maybe to measure earbuds with iMM6 + AudioTool (android) and convert *.at file from AudioTool for use in REW?

I use REW with my laptop and my IMM-6 plugged into my TC35B. My laptops soundcard is no good for measurements.

No point doing it with my phone, as it lacks a 3.5mm out and I would use the TC35B.
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 4:51 PM Post #2,438 of 4,721
Btw some new interesting stuff, have you seen these?

Open back metal shell for both diameters:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001773416768.html

Some new budget buds with interesting 15.4mm shells
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001762531590.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001547137732.html (apparently poisonous for females lol, I love these)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001762616120.html
Wow, these shells look so damn good. It's so compact. Two versions :nerd:
And for me, the shipping cost is $106.56. Only this guy can help me :santa:. I'm getting ready to send him a letter
@robar man, you're killing me with these "new arrivals".:beerchug:
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 5:14 PM Post #2,439 of 4,721
I use REW with my laptop and my IMM-6 plugged into my TC35B. My laptops soundcard is no good for measurements.

No point doing it with my phone, as it lacks a 3.5mm out and I would use the TC35B.
I threw my USB music card in the trash. No laptop has a good music card.
That is why I use SonataHD dongle, iBassoDC01 occasionally but I don't think they support iMM6.
That's why I use iMM6 with LG G7. Also, AudioTool is not so bad at all, it's not good as AudioTools on iOs but for Android, this works nice
There are a lot of cheap external cards for Gaming headsets but all have integrated EQ which is not good for measurements.
Maybe I'll buy this little device, it's around $100
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 6:35 PM Post #2,440 of 4,721
I threw my USB music card in the trash. No laptop has a good music card.
That is why I use SonataHD dongle, iBassoDC01 occasionally but I don't think they support iMM6.
That's why I use iMM6 with LG G7. Also, AudioTool is not so bad at all, it's not good as AudioTools on iOs but for Android, this works nice
There are a lot of cheap external cards for Gaming headsets but all have integrated EQ which is not good for measurements.
Maybe I'll buy this little device, it's around $100

Yeah. The onboard card worked terrible, not surprised that most built in are crap.

If you buy a USB A male to USB C female adapter, you can probably use your Sonata HD like I do the TC35B with my laptop. Top right in this pic:
IMG_20200818_150456.jpg
 
Nov 24, 2020 at 6:43 PM Post #2,441 of 4,721
We made a total mistake for this driver. 500ohm uses a graphene coating and not beryllium
500ohm graphene https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32985345691.html
O-ow. There goes Mama Bery. What can be a fitting name for the 500 Ohm graphene? @furyossa @Themilkman46290

If you guys haven't tried them, you should, it is rarely talked about on here but I would rate them in this order
Wow, thanks for this ranking list. Care to link the posts where you share your design/tuning/impressions on them? This is for the DIY Earbuds Wiki :ksc75smile:

Titanium is the only driver that is difficult to predict. 64ohm full Ti (15.4mm) aka. "Chief" has more bass quantity than Graphene and Beryllium.
Just want to make sure, is "Chief" the $16 64 Ohm Ti @Themilkman46290 was talking about in his ranking list above? If not, kindly link to the product, again, I'm slowly adding to the DIY Earbuds Wiki :ksc75smile:Thank you!

The 19-21 you linked is the recommended "heavy bass" driver, but it's not titanium. The titanium version is this: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000741710087.html but please note that this has a special type of mesh cover which doesnt really work with mx500 shells.
I can also recommend this "N50 red rim" for another cheap 32ohm driver (but I prefer the 19-21 overall), and this cover works with every shell I tried: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33027995148.html
I got the the purple dot titanium 32 Ohm with standard plastic cover on the way, hopefully I can share some impressions soon. Do we consider it to be the same family with "Red Dot Heavy"? We also haven't got a name for the "green dot balanced" one hahaha..
Noted on your recommendation for "N50 Red Rim". :ksc75smile:

PK1 150 Ohm 'transparent film' and 32ohm "pink film" are vocal-oriented
Noted with thanks. :ksc75smile:

Brief info about the wiki here, sorry for quoting myself LOL
Hi guys, allow me to introduce the "Head-Fi DIY Earbuds Wiki"
I appreciate so much the wealth of information in this thread, and by creating this list I hope we can organize that somehow. It will certainly help me with my DIY journey, and I humbly hope it will benefit us all, old and new alike.

I'd appreciate your support and contribution to improve this wiki by (in order of preference):
- Quote posts where impressions and tuning recipes can be found
- Post your impressions and tuning recipes in this thread
- Leave comments in my blog
- Send me a PM with any info you have

To keep the spreadsheet easy to read, I will redact the posts. I will do my best but please also keep in mind that we're doing this for fun. :ksc75smile:
Thank you all!
 
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Nov 24, 2020 at 6:52 PM Post #2,442 of 4,721
Yeah. The onboard card worked terrible, not surprised that most built in are crap.

If you buy a USB A male to USB C female adapter, you can probably use your Sonata HD like I do the TC35B with my laptop. Top right in this pic:
IMG_20200818_150456.jpg
both came with USB adapter but ibasso has balanced 2.5 out. I will try tomorrow, if it works i will ask for help about setting in REW
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 7:03 AM Post #2,443 of 4,721
O-ow. There goes Mama Bery. What can be a fitting name for the 500 Ohm graphene? @furyossa @Themilkman46290
This 500ohm has a red accent on the backside. Perhaps "Bloody Mary" will be a good idea for the nickname.
If we go with a male name, then a combo of these two names: Hellboy (comics character) and BigBoi (a member of the Outkast hip-hop duo) = "HellBoi"
400ohm driver has a blue accent so maybe "Blue Lagoon" or simply "Lagoon"
What do you think @Themilkman46290?
Just want to make sure, is "Chief" the $16 64 Ohm Ti @Themilkman46290 was talking about in his ranking list above? If not, kindly link to the product, again, I'm slowly adding to the DIY Earbuds Wiki :ksc75smile:Thank you!
The "Chief" is a full Titanium driver, not a composite (PU+Ti). This composite driver aka. "Half-Breed" is most likely used here. Another 14.8mm composite here by @assassin10000
 
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Nov 25, 2020 at 8:38 AM Post #2,444 of 4,721
@willyboyaudio about your Wiki project.
This is a really good idea to organize everything in one place. :beerchug:
Sometimes is really hard and annoying to look for a description of each driver or some specific mod throughout the whole forum.
It would also be a good idea to consider any driver because we're not just talking about driver characteristics but also about shells, cables, connectors, airflow, ergonomics,
tools, and materials ... in short modding in general. When I say "any driver", I mean that sometimes we also use some drivers from branded manufacturers for our mods.
This can also help those who have some pre-made models and want to make some changes: swap the cable, add the tuning foam, install MMCX, change or modify the shell etc.
In your " Head-Fi DIY Earbuds Wiki " spreadsheet, you can remove the "Picture" row and in a row "Tested by User" add ordinal numbers (#) next to the username that will be a hyperlink for the "DIY Earbuds" thread mod. I will use my "8-Packs" project as an example: furyossa #1, #2, #3.
One of the reasons would also be that some projects upgrade over time
 
Nov 25, 2020 at 9:57 AM Post #2,445 of 4,721
@furyossa

Aren't the 32ohms pk1 red film vocal-oriented?

What about the 150 Ohm 'transparent film'? Have you already tested them?

According to @assassin10000, it seems that the 14.8mm 120Ohm bery drivers have (too) rolled off bass.


@Themilkman46290
Do the 500ohm have a dark sound?




Fixed!
Thank you.
Yeah, I would say overall they are kind of dark, brighter then the 600 bery but not as bright as 400 blue or the 8 pack...:wink:
 

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