DIY Earbuds
May 29, 2020 at 6:54 AM Post #1,831 of 4,718
All of the shells that I ordered (except the yuin) were smaller than the driver so I have to glue them in. That make tuning them a hassle because I have to wait half a day for the glue to cure and if I don't like the sound I have to pry the driver out again.
Next time try double side duct tape. It's a bit tricky to cut thin parts but it's easier for testing and tuning
 
May 29, 2020 at 7:02 AM Post #1,832 of 4,718
Alot of DIY people do their own shells, I even saw someone use a full brass MX500-like shell, pretty insane. Someone also used clay to sculpt a custom shell
I've been thinking about trying polymer clay for shells 😁
 
May 29, 2020 at 10:41 AM Post #1,833 of 4,718
I've been thinking about trying polymer clay for shells 😁
Careful, I tried a little while back with white abs plastic (had a half liter left over from some side work) results looked cool, making a mold was fairly easy, but my wife had a weird skin reaction and got a rash where the plastic touched, I ended up tossing them out.
I am sure it can be done, with most materials, clays, plastics, polymers but it maybe needs some skin safe coating
 
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May 29, 2020 at 6:45 PM Post #1,834 of 4,718
Careful, I tried a little while back with white abs plastic (had a half liter left over from some side work) results looked cool, making a mold was fairly easy, but my wife had a weird skin reaction and got a rash where the plastic touched, I ended up tossing them out.
I am sure it can be done, with most materials, clays, plastics, polymers but it maybe needs some skin safe coating
Yup. I think that Polymer clay after bake is safe for skin. Also, UV resin as coat finish produces a very cool effect. Jewelry made this way really looks amazing
 
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May 31, 2020 at 12:49 AM Post #1,835 of 4,718
On the subject of earbud glue, I use 3M micropore surgical tape (1cm size) in replacement of glue. Came up with the idea as I got fed up messing around with glue while prototyping and testing. I liked it so much, it became a permanent feature of the earbuds that I close up. Cut about 4 cm long and 5mm wide - that should be wide and long enough to hold the shells together while being able to hide under the earbud foam when installed. IMO, it's easier, less mistakes and more uniform pressure seal with tape rather than glue.
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May 31, 2020 at 1:26 AM Post #1,836 of 4,718
On the subject of earbud glue, I use 3M micropore surgical tape (1cm size) in replacement of glue. Came up with the idea as I got fed up messing around with glue while prototyping and testing. I liked it so much, it became a permanent feature of the earbuds that I close up. Cut about 4 cm long and 5mm wide - that should be wide and long enough to hold the shells together while being able to hide under the earbud foam when installed. IMO, it's easier, less mistakes and more uniform pressure seal with tape rather than glue.
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While I would do that as a temporary measure, as the micropore tape ages the adhesive becomes worse to deal with. Not the greatest to deal with if you feel like doing anything else after a couple months, due to the residue.

Still, a really good way to do tuning.
 
May 31, 2020 at 2:31 AM Post #1,837 of 4,718
On the subject of earbud glue, I use 3M micropore surgical tape (1cm size) in replacement of glue. Came up with the idea as I got fed up messing around with glue while prototyping and testing. I liked it so much, it became a permanent feature of the earbuds that I close up. Cut about 4 cm long and 5mm wide - that should be wide and long enough to hold the shells together while being able to hide under the earbud foam when installed. IMO, it's easier, less mistakes and more uniform pressure seal with tape rather than glue.
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The cloth medical tape works much better, 3m loses its grip after 1 sweaty day, Leaving us with that stickiness, the cloth bandage tape has held my daily driver earbud for 2 months with heavy use (while working, sanding, polishing and getting very sweaty) and it doesn't crease or wrinkle like the 3m tape.
 
May 31, 2020 at 2:32 AM Post #1,838 of 4,718
Yeah, a lot less stressful with the tape opening, closing, opening, closing, opening, closing... the shells when trying to get the sound right :). It gets "gummy" after 6 to 9 months of constant use, but that's when the ear foams also needs replacing - so I change the tape at the same time. The one in the pic was installed about Dec '19, but I have only used it constantly for about 1 month.
 
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May 31, 2020 at 3:11 AM Post #1,839 of 4,718
I've been using "B-7000 Multi Purpose Glue" for my diy earbuds. It's actually used to seal mobile phones screen or the the back panel. If you apply heat to it you can unglue it without damage. Its something of a rubber sealant, very easy to apply and remove.
 
May 31, 2020 at 12:58 PM Post #1,840 of 4,718
I ordered E8000 glue personally, not sure what's the difference between this and b7000, maybe the viscosity. I hope it will arrive soon and without any hole on the tube lol. :D Maybe I'll try this tape fixing technique, but sadly the medical tapes I have at home leave very sticky residue instantly

By the way I did a quick build few weeks ago, with the N50 speakers (I removed the stock foam so they're bare) and regular black mx500 shells plus their horseshoe. Snap is quite strong, doesn't even rotate so it works well without glue. The sound signature is surprisingly v-shaped but with a smooth gentle treatment, so it never sounds too sharp or bright. The tuning and the characteristics of the speaker balance out each other quite nicely. (N50 speaker by itself is smooth and slightly midcentric) I generally prefer a flatter signature but actually I quite enjoy this sound, punchy and spacious but not fatiguing. Of course the vocals are a bit thin but with an organic quality, not sharp metallic like with emx500 speakers . It's a good improvement over the stock setup, which was a foam installed on the speakers themselves and using the bundled type of mx500. This setup is tighter, cleaner, smoother, deeper. BTW the steel mesh cover + mx500 shell has a more stable fit for me compared to the plastic cover, maybe even suitable for walking around, I'll test it.
 
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Jun 1, 2020 at 6:38 AM Post #1,841 of 4,718
On the subject of earbud glue, I use 3M micropore surgical tape (1cm size) in replacement of glue. Came up with the idea as I got fed up messing around with glue while prototyping and testing. I liked it so much, it became a permanent feature of the earbuds that I close up. Cut about 4 cm long and 5mm wide - that should be wide and long enough to hold the shells together while being able to hide under the earbud foam when installed. IMO, it's easier, less mistakes and more uniform pressure seal with tape rather than glue.

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When I mentioned the double-side duct tape I meant this. The tape is placed on the inside of the plastic cover
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BTW... if you are wondering which driver has the best abs, the berillyum 130ohm has 8-pack abs 💪
 
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Jun 1, 2020 at 7:20 AM Post #1,842 of 4,718
Loving the hacking spirit in here! I need more protein shakes :)
 
Jun 1, 2020 at 7:54 AM Post #1,843 of 4,718
Loving the hacking spirit in here! I need more protein shakes :)
Don't forget to do some crunches and leg rises before modding the earbuds :beerchug:
 
Jun 1, 2020 at 10:37 AM Post #1,844 of 4,718
When I mentioned the double-side duct tape I meant this. The tape is placed on the inside of the plastic cover
double-side-duct-tape.jpg

BTW... if you are wondering which driver has the best abs, the berillyum 130ohm has 8-pack abs 💪
Haha good one, it's certainly the fittest of all by the looks. By the way, what those LF and HF marks mean? I've always found intriguing why this one has 4 pairs of solder blobs, but I've never looked into it as I don't own one
 
Jun 1, 2020 at 10:49 AM Post #1,845 of 4,718
Haha good one, it's certainly the fittest of all by the looks. By the way, what those LF and HF marks mean? I've always found intriguing why this one has 4 pairs of solder blobs, but I've never looked into it as I don't own one
Probably a Chinese way of marking the abdomen. This is 8-pack which is rare in Europe :relaxed:
When we do some crunches middle abs produce low an high frequency. LF and HF in short :L3000:
 
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