As i have described sound in my review as neutral in my review. I don't think the headphone is "warm" I think Abyss on there website define it how it is and post a FR graph as well. ZMF Caldera I demo'd are definitely warm. Meaning if you want warm sound you can just get it with vegan padsHistorically at least from my listening ZMF in general has its own sound versus Abyss that has its own. ZMF leans warmer and tonally rich to me which sounds a lot better versus Abyss where to me while it has the detail it tends to be more neutral in the best sense, but tonality to me at least for the V2 and Phi it has always been "off" and if I were to go further really almost sterile. My preference has been ZMF because I prefer the listening experience as a whole versus the detail. The Caldera for ZMF is kind of the addition of a lot of the missing details and removal of some of that veil while still staying close the ZMF sound you'd be accustomed to.
That said with the MR people have consistently whether it be here or else where keep throwing around the term "warm" or "warmer leaning" than what the Diana line has typically been and better tonally which is why I asked for more information on it. I still keep seeing mixed bag answers and I think the confusion is when people come here and ask about it in comparison with ZMF I think the feeling is the expectation that somehow the MR sounds the same as some of ZMF's offerings. In my position that isn't the case I just want to know if the MR for tonality and musicality for a listening experience has improved from previous Abyss offerings to justify a look. I don't necessarily need or have to have a lush ZMF experience I just don't want to listen to something that to me in previous models was more focused on the detail above all else. People said the V2 was supposed to be that and to me it wasn't. Abyss' tuning or what they are tuning for has not been my cup of tea historically, but I can respect what they offer and people's preferences for them. I'd like to think or hope though the MR is an improvement to those areas it lacks. If not than question answered I'll move on.
EDIT: I think the main thing is if you think an Abyss headphone is going to sound anything like a ZMF it won't is the short answer. ZMF really digs into the richness and timbre of the sound typically a lot more than other headphones. Abyss is more of the details and information you're extracting historically.
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