Denon AH-7200
Apr 12, 2020 at 10:03 AM Post #2,147 of 3,155
I have had all these. Don't rely on others' opinions too much, since you don't know the all different biases people have. I have personally found the D5000 too dark & boomy though smooth, the D7000 too dark-velvety (though very smooth). It will depend on your preferred genres and personal taste. I can understand why people love the D7000. You need to figure this out for yourself and there is no better way than trying them, either in shops or by owning them - long-term experiences being the best: that's the price to get to know yourself and the headphones in question. If you can't do that, enjoy what you have and spend time listening to music rather than contemplating alternatives.

On first hearing, I thought the TX00 (ebony) were better than the D7200 and the TH900 better yet.
I can imagine either the TH900 or D7000 would be top choice for people with similar preference.
After spending some time I started to appreciate the D7200 more, and also discover the annoying parts more.
If I didn't have modding experience I would have sold them and would have never unlocked the potential they have.
I like when instruments sound with natural tonality and adapt other genres to this priority. So I will always have a bias towards the modded D7200 and the stock D9200.
Other people are suckers for sheer physical bass impact with spacious sound (partially me too) and would prefer the (modded) TH900.
As for resolving fine details, nothing can remotely touch my e-stats (though I can hear all details with the D7200, just not as nicely integrating in the music as I know would be possible).
Nevertheless, for what I care in music listening, the D7200 doesn't lose much because it gets the harmonic structure right and therefore sounds natural.

My ranking would be something like this (instrumental + classical + most other genres):
modded D7200 > D9200 > modded TH900 > HD820 > Z1R > TH900 > D7200 > TX00 > D7000 > D5000 > D2000.

If I put on a different hat (reggae/electronica/metal/synth + some weight for sound stage), the ranking would be like this:
modded TH900 > modded D7200 > D9200 > HD820 > TH900 > Z1R > TX00 > D7200 > D7000 > D5000 > D2000.

With another different hat (most weight on sound stage but my other priorities stay) I would say:
HD820 > Z1R > modded D7200 >= modded TH900 > D9200 > D7000 > TX00 > D7200 > D5000 > D2000.

You see the variance and invariance: that is totally subjective and related to my preferences which may have nothing in common with yours.
Out of this, one could deduce that either the modded D7200 or the stock D9200 are my recommendations for the general public; the modded TH900 and HD820 (and Z1R) would get some people crazy and would not please others.

When you take price into account, from all these closed-headphone options I (must stress that it's personal) don't see much reason to pour money in anything else than a D7200 and a pair of Stax 009 pads (or replacement D7200 pads), doing some trivial mods and by this covering nearly all bases. Otherwise wait 2 years and get a used D9200.
I know people who drew that line at the D5200 and are happy (less problems than with the stock D7200, but less potential as well IMHO).
This is a great write up.
Agree 100%
:)

Finally, received my Dekoni Nuggets
Wow this is great.
I didn't know they made these nice pieces.
:)
 
Apr 12, 2020 at 10:06 AM Post #2,148 of 3,155
I ordered a 7200 for 500 euro and a ibasso dx160 2020
This setup should play nice as the 7200 has great sensitivity.
 
Apr 12, 2020 at 10:15 AM Post #2,149 of 3,155

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Apr 12, 2020 at 4:37 PM Post #2,155 of 3,155
I read entire 5200 and 7200 threads.
You should go for 7200 man.
The D5200 was EUR 336 (wrong info, not 306). Anyway, despite the need for additional purchase such as nuggets on the headband, a 6,3mm to 3.5mm adapter, I ordered the D7200 -- what the heck, I need to spoil and comfort myself and escape from reality with gears that let me fully enjoy HIFI Tidal music during times when I have to stay isolated at home because of corona. Things TODO: I am looking for a 1.2m balanced cable and a TRRS to TRS adapter for my OPPO HA-2SE DAC/AMP. Any advice on a cost effective cable is very much appreciated. I suppose that by getting a balanced cable instead of unbalanced cable it is future proof, that I may use the balanced out on DAC/AMPS such as BTR5. I know very little about audio technology and I appreciate all the advice I get here. Yet another issue that I have to sort out is how to choose the 2.5mm plug. There are different TRRS configurations. Fiio has L-.L+,R-.R+ but others such as ifi have R-.L-,R+,L+. I probably need some sort of an L-.L+,R-.R+ to R-.L-,R+,L+ adapter to use IFIs products would I choose to configured the headphone cable 2.5mm-end according to FIIOs configuration.
 
Apr 12, 2020 at 5:19 PM Post #2,157 of 3,155
The D5200 was EUR 336 (wrong info, not 306). Anyway, despite the need for additional purchase such as nuggets on the headband, a 6,3mm to 3.5mm adapter, I ordered the D7200 -- what the heck, I need to spoil and comfort myself and escape from reality with gears that let me fully enjoy HIFI Tidal music during times when I have to stay isolated at home because of corona. Things TODO: I am looking for a 1.2m balanced cable and a TRRS to TRS adapter for my OPPO HA-2SE DAC/AMP. Any advice on a cost effective cable is very much appreciated. I suppose that by getting a balanced cable instead of unbalanced cable it is future proof, that I may use the balanced out on DAC/AMPS such as BTR5. I know very little about audio technology and I appreciate all the advice I get here. Yet another issue that I have to sort out is how to choose the 2.5mm plug. There are different TRRS configurations. Fiio has L-.L+,R-.R+ but others such as ifi have R-.L-,R+,L+. I probably need some sort of an L-.L+,R-.R+ to R-.L-,R+,L+ adapter to use IFIs products would I choose to configured the headphone cable 2.5mm-end according to FIIOs configuration.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...RC1.A0.H0.Xdenon+ba.TRS0&_odkw=2x3.5mm+to+4.4
 
Apr 13, 2020 at 3:36 AM Post #2,158 of 3,155
is the Denon 7200 worth buying or is different enough to buy if I already own the TH900s?
 
Apr 13, 2020 at 5:15 AM Post #2,160 of 3,155
Only from what i read 7200 has a diff.sound sig.
I don't think you make an upgrade
I wouldn't consider it an upgrade per se just something a little different that would compliment the 900s. I've been on a Fostex bender and wanted to check out some of the Denons. Thanks for the feedback
 

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