Darkest Desires Part V

Nov 24, 2005 at 3:48 AM Post #721 of 2,645
...entirely due to this thread. Thanks DA for broadening musical horizons on all ends of the spectrum.

It's Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" by the way...

I should say, it's my first unless you count Black Sabbath's "Paranoid".
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Nov 24, 2005 at 4:49 AM Post #722 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
...entirely due to this thread. Thanks DA for broadening musical horizons on all ends of the spectrum.

It's Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" by the way...

I should say, it's my first unless you count Black Sabbath's "Paranoid".
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It won't be the last. When you start with the best the genre has to offer, you will be in for a treat. I give you less than a month before you own the entire catalogue of Opeth.
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Nov 24, 2005 at 4:29 PM Post #723 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
...entirely due to this thread. Thanks DA for broadening musical horizons on all ends of the spectrum.

It's Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" by the way...
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Doc have you lost your mind...........don't let the wifey or kids see what you are listening to now!
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Dec 1, 2005 at 11:56 PM Post #725 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
...entirely due to this thread. Thanks DA for broadening musical horizons on all ends of the spectrum.

It's Opeth's "Ghost Reveries" by the way...

I should say, it's my first unless you count Black Sabbath's "Paranoid".
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OK - I like it! It reminds me of a cross between "...and Justice" era Metallica, Lateralus, and the 70s Finnish band Wigwam (an obscure reference I know), with more than a little prog rock thrown in. The OTG vocals (Oscar the Grouch, thanks to another head-fi poster for the great name!) take a little getting used to, but I can buy the assertion that they are operatic-esque vocal stylings, as long as they are used sparingly for effect (as in the case of this album). I really like the obvious Scandanavian roots of the sound, and innovative keyboards.

So, based on this, what would be my next step? This is about as heavy-duty as I want to go, so maybe something a bit more tame, but keeping with the same general values???
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 1:20 AM Post #726 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
OK - I like it! It reminds me of a cross between "...and Justice" era Metallica, Lateralus, and the 70s Finnish band Wigwam (an obscure reference I know), with more than a little prog rock thrown in. The OTG vocals (Oscar the Grouch, thanks to another head-fi poster for the great name!) take a little getting used to, but I can buy the assertion that they are operatic-esque vocal stylings, as long as they are used sparingly for effect (as in the case of this album). I really like the obvious Scandanavian roots of the sound, and innovative keyboards.

So, based on this, what would be my next step? This is about as heavy-duty as I want to go, so maybe something a bit more tame, but keeping with the same general values???



Edit: Doc, I can see where you are coming from with regards to the vocals. That said, if you want the best from Opeth, try "My Arms, Your Hearse". If you do not like that album, I would say the whole genre is not for you, as it is just pure aureal bliss for fans of that sound. This coming from a guy who does not like most growling vocals, LOL
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Something about Opeth, and a few other bands though...

I find that although the vocals are pretty much 100% growly, I find "Damage Done" and "Character" from Dark Tranquility to be outstanding. The singer is very good at changing tone and really giving expression to something that makes most bands sound monotonous. Try before you buy onthis suggestion though, very energetic and sometimes beautifully melodic, but not exactly hardcore, IMO.

As a general suggestion, try Virgin Black. Both of their new albums "Sombre Romantic" and "Elegant... and Dying" are more of the gothic, medieval music with great soaring kinda operatic vocals. It is a great combination of hard kinda gothic rock with mellow operatic rock. I really like it very much. Both albums have outstanding and very euphoric, IMO, songs. I really think you would like it if you try it.

Other than that, you would like the first two albums of The Gathering "Madylion" and "Nighttime Birds", as well as "Damnation" from Opeth themselves.
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 2:26 AM Post #727 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by roadtonowhere08
Edit: Doc, I can see where you are coming from with regards to the vocals. That said, if you want the best from Opeth, try "My Arms, Your Hearse". If you do not like that album, I would say the whole genre is not for you, as it is just pure aureal bliss for fans of that sound. This coming from a guy who does not like most growling vocals, LOL
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Something about Opeth, and a few other bands though...

I find that although the vocals are pretty much 100% growly, I find "Damage Done" and "Character" from Dark Tranquility to be outstanding. The singer is very good at changing tone and really giving expression to something that makes most bands sound monotonous. Try before you buy onthis suggestion though, very energetic and sometimes beautifully melodic, but not exactly hardcore, IMO.

As a general suggestion, try Virgin Black. Both of their new albums "Sombre Romantic" and "Elegant... and Dying" are more of the gothic, medieval music with great soaring kinda operatic vocals. It is a great combination of hard kinda gothic rock with mellow operatic rock. I really like it very much. Both albums have outstanding and very euphoric, IMO, songs. I really think you would like it if you try it.

Other than that, you would like the first two albums of The Gathering "Madylion" and "Nighttime Birds", as well as "Damnation" from Opeth themselves.



Blackwater Park is on the way. I will try My Arms... and Virgin Black next.
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 5:07 AM Post #728 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
Blackwater Park is on the way. I will try My Arms... and Virgin Black next.


I think you will like BWP more than GR. The title track is absolutely incredible as well as "The Leper Affinity". I also love the beginning to "Drapery Falls" and "Dirge For November". Not really a weak song in the album, to be honest. BWP was my first Opeth album, so it will always hold a special place in my heart. The cover, IMO, is the best cover in music histoey, but I feel like I will be the tiny minority here
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Dec 2, 2005 at 5:23 AM Post #729 of 2,645
ok guys im back to buying again heheh.

Incoming

Stream of Passion - Embrace the Storm
Haggard - Eppur Si Muove
Lullacry - Vol. 4
Draconian - Where Lovers Mourn
(absolutely LOVED Arcane Rain Fell)
Virgin Black - Sombre Romantic
Catafalque - Unique
(said to be on par with early ToT, Tristania)
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 7:18 AM Post #731 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by steel102
heh BWP was also my first "real" opeth cd (not including prior mp3's), but nowadays I barely listen to it. still life is way better imo, i like every single song on that album.


Same way, but it's MAYH for me.
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 12:01 PM Post #732 of 2,645
It seems like I just can't persuade anyone, even roadie or enverxis, to try out Ram-Zet - Intra, duh
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About The Gathering, every time I see someone recommending them, it's Mandylion, sometimes paired with Nighttime Birds. Nothing wrong with that as those are great albums, but personally I was totally stunned when I got "How To Measure a Planet?". It's less metal, more mellow and way more prog, though it does have it's heavier moments. Double CD, with almost two hours of music and both cds rock, especially the second one, which has some really prog stuff (including the closer, 30 minute instrumental, though the last 15+ minutes are just drone, noise and reverb). The tracks "Rescue Me" and "Probably Built in the Fifties" are just amazing.

Edit: To sum it up, for someone with background in prog. music, The Gathering - How To Measure a Planet would be a great entry album for darker metal. It not really metal, but it does have that dark metallish edge and beautiful female vocals.
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 12:17 PM Post #733 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Nacher
It seems like I just can't persuade anyone, even roadie or enverxis, to try out Ram-Zet - Intra, duh
biggrin.gif
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About The Gathering, every time I see someone recommending them, it's Mandylion, sometimes paired with Nighttime Birds. Nothing wrong with that as those are great albums, but personally I was totally stunned when I got "How To Measure a Planet?". It's less metal, more mellow and way more prog, though it does have it's heavier moments. Double CD, with almost two hours of music and both cds rock, especially the second one, which has some really prog stuff (including the closer, 30 minute instrumental, though the last 15+ minutes are just drone, noise and reverb). The tracks "Rescue Me" and "Probably Built in the Fifties" are just amazing.

Edit: To sum it up, for someone with background in prog. music, The Gathering - How To Measure a Planet would be a great entry album for darker metal. It not really metal, but it does have that dark metallish edge and beautiful female vocals.



Hey man, Ram-Zet - Intra is the exact next thing im getting :P

and yeah agree about The Gathering, thats why I recommended all of them in the "metal without death vocals" thread
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(although I still havent heard Always or Almost a Dance)
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 2:58 PM Post #734 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Nacher
Edit: To sum it up, for someone with background in prog. music, The Gathering - How To Measure a Planet would be a great entry album for darker metal. It not really metal, but it does have that dark metallish edge and beautiful female vocals.


That's me to a tee (prog background, that is). I'll try it!
 
Dec 2, 2005 at 6:39 PM Post #735 of 2,645
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Originally Posted by Nacher
It seems like I just can't persuade anyone, even roadie or enverxis, to try out Ram-Zet - Intra, duh
biggrin.gif
.

About The Gathering, every time I see someone recommending them, it's Mandylion, sometimes paired with Nighttime Birds. Nothing wrong with that as those are great albums, but personally I was totally stunned when I got "How To Measure a Planet?". It's less metal, more mellow and way more prog, though it does have it's heavier moments. Double CD, with almost two hours of music and both cds rock, especially the second one, which has some really prog stuff (including the closer, 30 minute instrumental, though the last 15+ minutes are just drone, noise and reverb). The tracks "Rescue Me" and "Probably Built in the Fifties" are just amazing.

Edit: To sum it up, for someone with background in prog. music, The Gathering - How To Measure a Planet would be a great entry album for darker metal. It not really metal, but it does have that dark metallish edge and beautiful female vocals.



LOL, first time I have read about Ram-Zet. I will try them out soon. About The Gathering, I would like to hear HTMAP, but the dummy I ordered it from has not sent it yet
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I also really like Sleepy Buildings. Very good softer renditions of their stuff.
 

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