[shigzeo]

so, lossless is gapless now. it would be great if they did this across their line, not only to the big player. but, without gapless compressed music, it ain't yet worhtwhile. i live where cowon are cheaper than flies pretty much, but if aac and mp3 are not gapless, no way i'll upgrade from my 1g shuffle for a ia7 or something.

 

[dfkt]

Well, it's a large step (the largest so far, IMO) for Cowon - the first firmware ever that has any sort of gapless. Let's hope they manage to implement it for every codec/container.

 

[ricthaman]

now all they have to do is add support for AAC and I will buy it again!! No questions asked

(I still can't believe the lack of AAC?!)

Rgds

 

[Punnisher]

Just when I thought I didn't need any other players, Cowon does something like this...Looks like it will be player #12 for me.

Thank you dfkt for testing this!

 

[Fortgammon]

what's so awesome about Gapless? not sure what it is

 

[Punnisher]

It's the most important and most overlooked feature that can be in an mp3 player. It's when two tracks are played back-to-back with no skip or gap in between. This is important for all kinds of music but classical benefits the most.

You see, different movements in a classical work often blend together. In other words, instruments are playing while one movement ends and the next one begins. If you don't have gapless, there will be a short area of silence in between movements. This can be especially annoying when you have several short tracks in succession.

For some this is no big deal but for me it's a deal breaker. I did not buy the S9 because of this but now I am reconsidering.

 

[penguindude]

If only the S9 has wi-fi capability, then it would be perfect.

 

[nkk]

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguindude /img/forum/go_quote.gif If only the S9 has wi-fi capability, then it would be perfect.

+1

Although, wifi is really a secondary feature in a media player. Playing media (with good SQ) comes first.

-Nkk

 

[dfkt]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fortgammon /img/forum/go_quote.gif what's so awesome about Gapless? not sure what it is

If you don't know why gapless is essential to many people, you perhaps don't need it - or already have it on your iPod/Zune/Rockboxed player.

 

[Fortgammon]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punnisher /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's the most important and most overlooked feature that can be in an mp3 player. It's when two tracks are played back-to-back with no skip or gap in between. This is important for all kinds of music but classical benefits the most. You see, different movements in a classical work often blend together. In other words, instruments are playing while one movement ends and the next one begins. If you don't have gapless, there will be a short area of silence in between movements. This can be especially annoying when you have several short tracks in succession. For some this is no big deal but for me it's a deal breaker. I did not buy the S9 because of this but now I am reconsidering.

I had a feeling that what it was, I guess it's important in such cases, my collection consist of rock/metal/Asian/recordings so it not needed for me

 

[h1a8]

Where can I download this beta?

 

[FenderP]

Quote:

Originally Posted by gideonMorrison /img/forum/go_quote.gif ...Thus Cowon wins.

How does Cowon win? Sony has supported it always with ATRAC. Much longer than Cowon even thought about doing gapless. How many years did it take? Nearly 10?

 

[nkk]

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenderP /img/forum/go_quote.gif How does Cowon win? Sony has supported it always with ATRAC. Much longer than Cowon even thought about doing gapless. How many years did it take? Nearly 10?

Supporting it with a non-common format on models only in Japan (at least for the X1000) is not a win, it is a fail. Cowon may be late, but they are supporting it for a major lossless format, and it happens to work on all their S9s, not just Japanese ones. That being said, I do give credit to Sony for having supported it, even if it was in an obscure way.

-Nkk

 

[j3ff86]

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguindude /img/forum/go_quote.gif If only the S9 has wi-fi capability, then it would be perfect.

The S9 is a dedicated audio and video player, and it does those two functions damn well. If you want a media player with wi-fi, buy an ipod, phone, netbook, or similar device that is a jack of all trades and master of none.

 

[shigzeo]

if you like rock, don't you listen to concerts? if you do, gaps kill a recording. trance too - many studio albums i have too have simulated gapless recordings that are linked with 'music' in between tracks.

if cowon could pull back aac and put in gapless, i would consider their small player like the ia7