Compatible mobile Amps/Dacs for the iPhone 5

Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM Post #16 of 125
There are several available now. All you need is the standard USB lightning cable .

V-Moda Verza, Sony PHA-1 and there are others. Both of these via USB take digital out from the iPhone 5.
 
Mar 13, 2013 at 7:11 PM Post #18 of 125
Don't know if this works but found a short coiled version that might do the job. http://store.griffintechnology.com/lightning-connector-cables

Also yes, the Sony PHA-1 is exactly in my last grasp of budget at $499. Saw the Cypher Labs DB for $699 and that just broke my heart. The Sony indeed does look really hot.

EDIT: And I am getting a iPhone 5 tonight so I won't have to carry my bulky iPad with me everywhere I go now. Wondering how long the battery life lasts for normal useage after 3 hours of listenining to music? I am planning to listen to at least 3 hours of music total a day often with it. No, not 3 hours straight lol.
 
Mar 14, 2013 at 3:31 AM Post #19 of 125
Oh dear :-( here is the reply from Fostex:-
 
 
We have no plan to have the HP-P1 approved for iPhone 5, but will do
for new products in the future.
 
well, that's interesting. Do they have a new updated product in the pipeline and have no reason to want to certify the HP-1 for this reason?
I'm amazed that it seems so difficult to find something suitable that's works with and is certified with apple?
surely I'm not the only person in the world to want to play music through good quality headphones :-0
 
Hi LeDave, to your question on the iPhone battery life. I don't (at the moment) play music through the Line out from my iPhone 5 so can't really advise on the battery life. I did notice that on my iPhone 4 when used through its line out would use the battery much quicker than the headphone socket. One or two colleagues at work initially moaned about the battery life on the iPhone 5, but it seems on par to the iPhone 4 as far as I can see. I think it's the same battery capacity, but its supposed to be far more economical and efficient. 
 
Well I'm still tempted to get a HP1 (especially as nobody seems to stock the Sony PHA over here and I don't want to stump up £100s of pounds in import duty :-((
 
why are these things sooooo difficult! Grrrrrr
 
Mar 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM Post #20 of 125
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There are several available now. All you need is the standard USB lightning cable .

V-Moda Verza, Sony PHA-1 and there are others. Both of these via USB take digital out from the iPhone 5.

 
Does anyone know of any others? The Verza appears to be still bleeding edge and the iPhone 5 case isn't even available yet. Looks like as most people expected, devices are becoming available. I would expect to see more by the end of the year. 
 
Mar 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM Post #21 of 125
Another portable DAC/Amp option for the iPhone 5 is the CEntrance HiFi-M8.  See the thread in the Portable Source Gear forum.   It is not available yet, and list is $699 for the iPhone compatible model.   The folks at CEntrance are commited to iPhone 5 compatibility based on their interactions with fellow Head-Fi'ers. 
 
Because the phone/DAC connection is both hardware- and software-dependent, it will likely be the case that any DAC you get now will work with a particular group of phone models available now running today's software.  Future-proofing is tough in this space, I think, and it takes some creative thinking.  For example, I've got an iPad right now that has the software I need and running fine on it, and so I don't update either the apps or the OS as either might break some of its functionality. 
 
Mar 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM Post #22 of 125
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Does anyone know of any others? The Verza appears to be still bleeding edge and the iPhone 5 case isn't even available yet. Looks like as most people expected, devices are becoming available. I would expect to see more by the end of the year. 

VentureCraft Go-Dap X is another contender but it's look almost exactly like Verza since Verza took their design and beef up the spec a little bit. ADL Furutech X1 will be coming out soon as well as Centrance HiFi-M8 as jazzman7 mention above.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:08 AM Post #23 of 125
I just looked at their site and the m8 does not work with iPhone 5.
· HiFi-M8 comes with a stylish, custom-made 30-pin cable for connection to iPhone 3/4/S as well as a USB cable for connection to laptops.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:19 AM Post #24 of 125
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I just looked at their site and the m8 does not work with iPhone 5.
· HiFi-M8 comes with a stylish, custom-made 30-pin cable for connection to iPhone 3/4/S as well as a USB cable for connection to laptops.

Yes, that 30-pin cable won't work because ip5 come with lightning connector. Just use lightning cable that come with your ip5. M8 should work on any iDevice with correct cable.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:25 AM Post #25 of 125
The trick people have been doing in Japan is to buy the Lightning to micro-USB adaptor and then use a short USB A-to-micro cable. I've been using a HP-P1 with my iPhone 5 using the 30-pin adaptor and an existing 30-pin LOD. Pretty much anything that works with the iPhone 4 should work with the 5 without issue.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 3:29 AM Post #26 of 125
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The trick people have been doing in Japan is to buy the Lightning to micro-USB adaptor and then use a short USB A-to-micro cable. I've been using a HP-P1 with my iPhone 5 using the 30-pin adaptor and an existing 30-pin LOD. Pretty much anything that works with the iPhone 4 should work with the 5 without issue.

Yeah, I bought VentureCraft lightning to USB cable and used it with my Go-Dap X/DD Socket 1 and ipod touch 5G too. 
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM Post #27 of 125
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The trick people have been doing in Japan is to buy the Lightning to micro-USB adaptor and then use a short USB A-to-micro cable. I've been using a HP-P1 with my iPhone 5 using the 30-pin adaptor and an existing 30-pin LOD. Pretty much anything that works with the iPhone 4 should work with the 5 without issue.

So have you tried an iPhone 5 with the HP-P1? I was looking at that and really want to get it but if it doesnt with with my iphone 5 then there is no point in buying one.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 1:33 PM Post #28 of 125
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The trick people have been doing in Japan is to buy the Lightning to micro-USB adaptor and then use a short USB A-to-micro cable. I've been using a HP-P1 with my iPhone 5 using the 30-pin adaptor and an existing 30-pin LOD. Pretty much anything that works with the iPhone 4 should work with the 5 without issue.

Also what is an LOD. Yes i'm a newb. but now i have some sr80i i want to go straight to the top and get some RS1i's but first i want to get the best sound i can out of my sr80i's thats why I'm looking into dac's. or maybe just get a high end cd player with built in dac's.
 
Apr 11, 2013 at 1:52 PM Post #29 of 125
Will this work?
 
 

Lightning to 30-pin Adapter


Use this intelligent and ultracompact adapter to connect your 30-pin accessories to devices featuring the Lightning connector.


 
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Apr 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM Post #30 of 125
I found this article and it says that the lightning to 30pin cable will work for analog out. Has anyone confirmed this? So does this mean i can plug the lightning to 30pin connector into my iPhone 5 and the 30pin to usb connector that comes with the HP-P1 into the lightning to 30 and the music will bypass the internal dac in the phone and instead use the external dac?
 
http://www.tuaw.com/2012/09/13/lightning-30-pin-adapter-works-with-analog-audio-ipod-out-doe/
 

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