[lolhero]

What would you guys say is the best amp to go with Mojo2?

 

[jarnopp]

What would you guys say is the best amp to go with Mojo2?

For iems/headphones? None. For speakers, it depends on what you are driving.

 

[lolhero]

For iems/headphones? None. For speakers, it depends on what you are driving.

Yeah for iems, for example I feel with Anni which are more power hungry, that a bigger power headroom will profit a lot and give it the just needed. I am already pushing blue on Mojo2 with them a lot of times.

I was looking at Kobo 475 which is a popular option. But then also theres CMA15 available for similair price at the moment.

 

[jarnopp]

Yeah for iems, for example I feel with Anni which are more power hungry, that a bigger power headroom will profit a lot and give it the just needed. I am already pushing blue on Mojo2 with them a lot of times.

I was looking at Kobo 475 which is a popular option. But then also theres CMA15 available for similair price at the moment.

As the chart linked here shows, even if you are on double blue (which seems unlikely with iems) you still have 10 db of headroom to 0, and much more power available after that.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cho...ge-95-of-thread.885405/page-696#post-18086735

 

[Hypops]

Yeah for iems, for example I feel with Anni which are more power hungry, that a bigger power headroom will profit a lot and give it the just needed. I am already pushing blue on Mojo2 with them a lot of times.

I was looking at Kobo 475 which is a popular option. But then also theres CMA15 available for similair price at the moment.

Blue isn't bad. Even if you're approaching the end of the color spectrum, there's still plenty of headroom left to go. Just try pushing it into the upper purples, and you'll quickly see just how much the Mojo 2's got left. Also: don't actually do that.

 

[lolhero]

As the chart linked here shows, even if you are on double blue (which seems unlikely with iems) you still have 10 db of headroom to 0, and much more power available after that.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/cho...ge-95-of-thread.885405/page-696#post-18086735

I can push double blue and more, Anni23 are quite power hungry, I could see for example on Monarch MK3 I could use yellow/green and get loud levels, while on Anni had to go considerably more power. Also its been said all around threads and review the set of IEMs scales with additional power headroom and opens up more. Nevertheless, I wanted to expand and add the amp to the chain hence my question.

 

[MarkParity]

I can push double blue and more, Anni23 are quite power hungry, I could see for example on Monarch MK3 I could use yellow/green and get loud levels, while on Anni had to go considerably more power. Also its been said all around threads and review the set of IEMs scales with additional power headroom and opens up more. Nevertheless, I wanted to expand and add the amp to the chain hence my question.

What is this "Anni23" you are referring to?

Is it the Chord Anni? If it is what do you mean its power hungry its an amplifier!

Check your source whatever it is and make sure its not outputting a low level digital signal because if its feeding Mojo 2 with a digitally attenuated signal (it should not BTW as this is bad, like crossing the streams) then low input = low output.

 

[lolhero]

What is this "Anni23" you are referring to?

Is it the Chord Anni? If it is what do you mean its power hungry its an amplifier!

Check your source whatever it is and make sure its not outputting a low level digital signal because if its feeding Mojo 2 with a digitally attenuated signal (it should not BTW as this is bad, like crossing the streams) then low input = low output.

Oh sorry, its Elysian Annihilator 2023 IEM's in my signature. Although Mojo2 drives them without many issues, I feel adding an amp will add the dynamics, body, punch and more with an amp. I was able to test some with an 1985 Kenwood KA990AX integrated amplifier, and I could already feel it got much better then just going directly to the Mojo. Since I don't really trust that amp for a daily driver, and its far to big, I am looking for a more portable option. So far I've narrowed it down to either Mass Kobo 475, Tsuranagi or going desktop like CMA15\18 master.

 

[MgMGM]

Thanks. I need to try it first. I love the sound of my HD25 (maybe because I'm accustomed to it, using it for many years for djing) and I'd like to find something like that, with a bigger soundstage. I love dynamic, sharp sounding, micro details. I don't want to enter in a never ending headphone quest too

Not sure what your budget is or if you have a preference for headphones over IEM's.....But ive just upgraded from a pair Campfire Audio ARA to there Solaris Steller Horizon IEM. WOW........Ya want soundstage and detail, these deliver in spades and them some. Massive dynamic soundstage and able to zone in on any micro detail contained in the song. Thats as far as my reviewing skills will stretch to!!......Hope it helps......

 

[MarkParity]

Oh sorry, its Elysian Annihilator 2023 IEM's in my signature. Although Mojo2 drives them without many issues, I feel adding an amp will add the dynamics, body, punch and more with an amp. I was able to test some with an 1985 Kenwood KA990AX integrated amplifier, and I could already feel it got much better then just going directly to the Mojo. Since I don't really trust that amp for a daily driver, and its far to big, I am looking for a more portable option. So far I've narrowed it down to either Mass Kobo 475, Tsuranagi or going desktop like CMA15\18 master.

Now I understand. Good luck with your search. I've not really got any other advice to offer as I'm on the fence about this whole more power thing, well slightly on the side of Mojo 2 has plenty of power available to drive most headphones and IEM's perfectly fine, for what its worth.

By the numbers:

Mojo 2

• 90 mW 300 ohms (5.2 V RMS)
• 600 mW 30 ohms (4.2 V RMS)

Kobo 475

MAXIMUM OUTPUT WITHOUT DISTORTION
Balanced 165mW (with 32 ohm load, 1kHz, THD+N 0.05%)
Unbalanced 45mW (with 32 ohm load, 1kHz, THD+N 0.05%)

So that would eliminate the Kobo 475 as you'd end up with less power?

The Tsuranagi you mention will give you a bit more power, around 800mW

Of course none of this power is really required as others have said the Mojo 2 will in theory get you easily to ear-busting volumes with the Annihilator (sensitivity 94 dB @100mV)

I just tested Mojo 2 with my old Mr Speaker Aeon Flow (95dB sensitivity so similar to your IEM) It for me the level starts getting uncomfortable after double red with white on.

 

[TheR0v3r]

Would it be possible to have two amps connected at the same time to the Mojo?

I’m looking to use two different amps, and with my newfound love for the Mojo, hoping to use it as a DAC for both.

 

[lolhero]

Now I understand. Good luck with your search. I've not really got any other advice to offer as I'm on the fence about this whole more power thing, well slightly on the side of Mojo 2 has plenty of power available to drive most headphones and IEM's perfectly fine, for what its worth.

By the numbers:

Mojo 2

• 90 mW 300 ohms (5.2 V RMS)
• 600 mW 30 ohms (4.2 V RMS)

Kobo 475

MAXIMUM OUTPUT WITHOUT DISTORTION
Balanced 165mW (with 32 ohm load, 1kHz, THD+N 0.05%)
Unbalanced 45mW (with 32 ohm load, 1kHz, THD+N 0.05%)

So that would eliminate the Kobo 475 as you'd end up with less power?

The Tsuranagi you mention will give you a bit more power, around 800mW

Of course none of this power is really required as others have said the Mojo 2 will in theory get you easily to ear-busting volumes with the Annihilator (sensitivity 94 dB @100mV)

I just tested Mojo 2 with my old Mr Speaker Aeon Flow (95dB sensitivity so similar to your IEM) It for me the level starts getting uncomfortable after double red with white on.

From what I can see Mr. Speaker Aeon Flow is a 13ohm impedance headphones.. Anni 23 is 22ohm. On double red\yellow with white the sound is low. I have to push to the double green\blue to get power and depending on the song levels even further. As a comprising, on Monarch MK3's which are reported as 20ohm at 99db sensitivity, I can run double yellow just fine. Also it's probably safe to bet that measurements can largely differ here..

 

[MarkParity]

Would it be possible to have two amps connected at the same time to the Mojo?

I’m looking to use two different amps, and with my newfound love for the Mojo, hoping to use it as a DAC for both.

Yes no problem.

 

[fetoll123]

Has anyone compared the Mojo 2 against Topping G5?

 

[MarkParity]

Has anyone compared the Mojo 2 against Topping G5?

G5 gets golfing panther status so it will be better than Mojo 2. Anything else will be subjective psychoacoustics so you really would have to compare for yourself. Might not be the answer you want but its the correct answer