[gimmeheadroom]

The box has a color chart on it that shows what colors to expect for various PCM sample rates. A copy of the doc is downloadable on the Chord site.

But I must say, either I'm colorblind or the colors don't really match what the box shows very well.

http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Mojo-Manual-28072016.pdf

 

[miketlse]

If he explained this on the forum somewhere can you post a link? I'd like to understand it. Thank you.

For a start, analog volume control would remove the functionality to digitally set line-out mode.
Also:
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-mojo-dac-amp-☆★►faq-in-3rd-post-◄★☆.784602/post-12274209
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-hugo.702787/post-10651303
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-mojo-dac-amp-☆★►faq-in-3rd-post-◄★☆.784602/post-13030578
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-electronics-qutest-dac-official-thread.869417/post-14035366
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chord-electronics-dave.766517/post-12465685

 

[gimmeheadroom]

Thanks, the last link especially. But I'm not sure we have a smoking gun that DSD is converted to PCM.

 

[Kentajalli]

Thanks, the last link especially. But I'm not sure we have a smoking gun that DSD is converted to PCM.

I am sure I have either heard him (watts) or read it.
At any rate, digital volume (or indeed EQ of any kind) can not be implemended natively on DSD (at least as yet).
DSD is simply a transport medium, made from PCM masters.

 

[118900]

Thanks, the last link especially. But I'm not sure we have a smoking gun that DSD is converted to PCM.

The description specifically mentions that dsd is via dop

go to features it specifies it there

 

[Kentajalli]

The description specifically mentions that dsd is via dop

go to features it specifies it there

Actually DoP is still original DSD, just re-packaged, so it is not converted to PCM (by the player).
On my Android phone and Neutron music player, both DoP and Native work for DSD into my Mojo.

 

[gimmeheadroom]

Yeah it shows both native DSD and DoP on the features tab.

 

[118900]

Yeah it shows both native DSD and DoP on the features tab.

“Both”? what exactly does it say on that tab? What does “DoP” stand for?

 

[118900]

Actually DoP is still original DSD, just re-packaged, so it is not converted to PCM (by the player).
On my Android phone and Neutron music player, both DoP and Native work for DSD into my Mojo.

Actually no, it’s not. DoP literally stands for “DSD over PCM”. Chord products convert DSD into PCM to then perform the d/a conversion. If you set your player to convert DSD to DoP then the file arrives to the Mojo as a PCM file but if you select direct DSD out the mojo will do that conversion itself. That is how it plays DSD files

 

[Kentajalli]

DoP stands for DSD over PCM

Just because there is the word PCM it does not mean it is transcoded to PCM.
DoP was developed because some devices could not get DSD to some DACs natively, so they repackaged the DSD data into something that resembled PCM so it could be transmitted. A special code is added to tell the DAC that it is actually DSD and not PCM - it was a work around for a problem that is vanishing fast.
Just Google it.
https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/support/what-is-dop-dsd-over-pcm/

 

[118900]

Just because there is the word PCM it does not mean it is transcoded to PCM.
DoP was developed because some devices could not get DSD to some DACs natively, so they repackaged the DSD data into something that resembled PCM so it could be transmitted. A special code is added to tell the DAC that it is actually DSD and not PCM - it was a work around for a problem that is vanishing fast.
Just Google it.
https://www.dcsltd.co.uk/support/what-is-dop-dsd-over-pcm/

I’ll just leave it

 

[Billyak]

This thread is full of some sassy ****ers haha.

 

[118900]

This thread is full of some sassy ****ers haha.

What to say? When someone provides evidence to back up his theory and instead it backs up the exact opposite it’s just time to stop discussing and leave things be.

 

[AlexCBSN]

got a unit for 400 usd aprox (390) really well cared, first impressions:

theres a reason this dac is still relevant... it definitely has something, the organic sound signature, the headroom, this definitely can become easily my end game.

i paired it with my iphone using tidal, it works wonders, im totally impressed... funny detail... i own an xduoo xd05 and i have the bluetooth module... i shall call it: Molly...

cant afford a 600usd poly unit right now, but the bluetooth with ldac and coaxial output from this is quite outstanding

will post more, though i have a bunch of questions like battery life, where to get a new battery, HAs anyone tried to put some EFI shielding on this in the insides? efi is quite evident (not as bad as with my ltp s1) TBH im stunned by the sound of this device, it impresses me so much, the bass on JVC FDX01... THIS THINGS HAD NO BASS!!! the headroom and the current output its impressive, i even regret ordering the e1da 9038 s3 susumu 3000 and the ddhifi tc44b for christmas... for on the go, those were my solutions, the mojo came to change my perspective of on the go audio

 

[Rndm User]

Is the Mojo warmer or more neutral than the Sony TA-ZH1ES (or about the same)? Thanks