CHORD ELECTRONICS DAVE
Aug 4, 2020 at 8:00 AM Post #15,031 of 25,909
after lot of looking at powerblocks, heard lot of good things about the audioquest niagara 1200 anyone used this with their DAVE / HMS at all?? thanks
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:47 AM Post #15,033 of 25,909
after lot of looking at powerblocks, heard lot of good things about the audioquest niagara 1200 anyone used this with their DAVE / HMS at all?? thanks

yes -- using the 1200 with my dave and parasound jc2. very well made product -- i recommend for front end components for sure.

i changed a lot of things in my system at one time, so can't really attribute the incredible quietness in my system to any one device.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:54 AM Post #15,034 of 25,909
Yes. Any questions?

how did you find it sound quality wise when adding the DAVE and MScaler to it, did it reduce noise/digital harshness???
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:56 AM Post #15,035 of 25,909
yes -- using the 1200 with my dave and parasound jc2. very well made product -- i recommend for front end components for sure.

i changed a lot of things in my system at one time, so can't really attribute the incredible quietness in my system to any one device.

good to know, do you run your amp from the 1200 aswell??
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 1:57 PM Post #15,036 of 25,909
Yeah I also use the 1200 with the Dave and I find it helps a little when using the Dave in “DAC MODE”, but if you use the Dave in Digital Preamp Mode it sounds more natural and analog sound to me. The 1200 also made my Vinyl sound more quiet as well.
I also like it because you can have it sit in the normal position when using or upright or looking down to plug into makes it easy to use.
But whatever you do on this thread is ask what power cable to buy because your answer will be “Buy a Chord M Scaler first then we will answer that question” 🙈
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 2:58 PM Post #15,037 of 25,909
good to know, do you run your amp from the 1200 aswell??

no i don't. it would take a 15' power cord from the amp to the 1200 to accomplish that. my dealer recommended a clarus duet conditioner for the amp (located right next to the amp).

if i could have put the amp next to the rest of the equipment, i probably would have gone for a niagara 3000 -- it seems to be designed with higher powered amps than the 1200.
 
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Aug 4, 2020 at 3:15 PM Post #15,039 of 25,909
no i don't. it would take a 15' power cord from the amp to the 1200 to accomplish that. my dealer recommended a clarus duet conditioner for the amp (located right next to the amp).

if i could have put the amp next to the rest of the equipment, i probably would have gone for a niagara 3000 -- it seems to be designed with higher powered amps than the 1200.

Wow 15' a long run for the amp, would have to sell a kidney to buy a power cable that long :)
Had a look at niagra 3000 quite a jump in price to that one from the 1200 but see has of a power amp focus as you say
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 3:30 PM Post #15,040 of 25,909
Wow 15' a long run for the amp, would have to sell a kidney to buy a power cable that long :)
Had a look at niagra 3000 quite a jump in price to that one from the 1200 but see has of a power amp focus as you say

yes -- in my case, since i bought both the 1200 and the clarus duet, the incremental cost of a 3000 wouldn't have been that much more (in relative audio terms).
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 3:31 PM Post #15,041 of 25,909
Wow 15' a long run for the amp, would have to sell a kidney to buy a power cable that long :)
Had a look at niagra 3000 quite a jump in price to that one from the 1200 but see has of a power amp focus as you say
You should also consider the Isotek Sirius/Aquarius and up.I assume it would also tackle the M-scaler RF noise better than ferrites on cables.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 3:32 PM Post #15,042 of 25,909
You should also consider the Isotek Sirius/Aquarius and up.I assume it would also tackle the M-scaler RF noise better than ferrites on cables.
There's also the Russ Andrews range ,that while i can't personally vouch for , ends up a lot cheaper at like 200 euros for a 2 socket mains filter.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 3:33 PM Post #15,043 of 25,909
Yeah I also use the 1200 with the Dave and I find it helps a little when using the Dave in “DAC MODE”, but if you use the Dave in Digital Preamp Mode it sounds more natural and analog sound to me. The 1200 also made my Vinyl sound more quiet as well.

There is no difference in the outputs from DacMode and AmpMode apart from one being variable volume and the other being fixed volume. The output is the same. If the Dave screen shows the same volume then it IS the same output signal no matter whether in DacMode or AmpMode. Don’t let your mind play tricks on you. :smile:
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 8:44 PM Post #15,044 of 25,909
how did you find it sound quality wise when adding the DAVE and MScaler to it, did it reduce noise/digital harshness???
Yes to both. Very quiet background now and much improved bass/low end texture and impact. I later added Wave Streams so noise/harshness was further reduced.
 
Aug 4, 2020 at 11:10 PM Post #15,045 of 25,909
There is no difference in the outputs from DacMode and AmpMode apart from one being variable volume and the other being fixed volume. The output is the same. If the Dave screen shows the same volume then it IS the same output signal no matter whether in DacMode or AmpMode. Don’t let your mind play tricks on you. :smile:
That's weird unless it is my AS3000 playing tricks on me because when using DAC MODE I am using LINE IN via RCA and when using Dave as a DIGITAL PREAMP MODE I am on MAIN DIRECT input still RCA but shut's off all internal components from headphone section, tone controls etc.. So I am not hearing the Dave Change it is my AMP within less internal = more analog sound.. All I know it is a win win because it sounds great.
 

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