Chord 2Go & 2Yu Wired/Wireless Network streamer and S/PDIF adaptor - Official thread

[hptubes]

And...

It was a coincidence. I did a further test with a playlist with several tracks, started the list playing, and switched my phone off. It only played the first two tracks after I turned my phone off.

Why it plays the second track and not just the first? Beats me.

Thanks for this testing and posting. Even with your phone on, are you able to generate any pops and clicks in this setup?

 

[SteveHulk]

Thanks for this testing and posting. Even with your phone on, are you able to generate any pops and clicks in this setup?

I have not heard any pops and clicks at all.

 

[tunes]

Just ordered 2Yu adaptor and 2Go. I want to be ready to use it with both my home set up (DAVE/Mscaler) and portable HUGO2. What software for iPhone and ipad do I need to download for most reliable and ease of use for playback? Do I need ROON or is there something else? How do I get it all organized? I also plan to stream from Qboz and want to sign up for this service at home. Are there apps that I can get in advance? How do I get Qboz? Do I need a physical connection between the DAVE/Mscaler and the 2Go/2YU? I have microSD cards now that I use with my DAP that serves as a transport for my DAVE/Mscaler set up via optical from the DAP. THANKS

 

[GreenBow]

Cross posting in relevant threads. SO I just got the Hugo 2 and 2GO. This is a brief review of the H2G) and comparison with FIIO M15 and Mojopoly with LCD4Z... this review is about sound quality only... iI am still getting connectivity issues with Roon on the 2GO in different rooms.

OK

I have never heard a hugo2 before so my 1st experience is with the 2go attached.

I have LCD4Z.

I had been using FIIOM15 for last few weeks balanced. My Mojopoly collecting dust. I thought I'd write something immediately based on 1st impression... may make a youtube vid.
1st. My experience has now confirmed that there are MANY on headfi that are entirely full of SH!T... ALSO synergy is important. I know that AUdeze tuned the 4Z with a hugo 2 so maybe this pairing has some magic.

SO

1st... Hugo 2 is smaller than i expected in person... it looks bigger in pictures... while bigger than a typical DAP its size is manageable.

2nd... FIIO M15 is a wonderful step up from Mojopoly balanced... it drives the LCD 4z quite nicely... Id say a 10% bump over poly.. air.. dynamics etc.

I also read some dude saying the Hugo 2go was like a little slice of Dave... and I was thinking "BS!"

well here it is..

The H2GO destroys the FIIO M15 with the LCD 4Z... dynamics... air everything... maybe this pairing is something special and would not work with every HP. But it is shocking how much better... we are talking at least a 40% bump over Mojo Poly and 30% over Fiio M15... not having heard the SP2000 or IBasso DX220 MAX... I really can't see either of these being close.... this thing is a freaking knockout... and i have been a critic of Chord.... now if they get their game together on the connectivity and SW issues they are the kings. YES this is like a slice of TT2/Mscaler (i have one) in your hand.

I found Hugo 2 to be a considerable upgrade over the Mojo. (I don't have Poly or 2Go yet.)

Sounds with Hugo 2 have much more their own definition within their own space. Mojo leaves sounds having their place the same, but flatter defined front to back and more distorted sounding vs Hugo 2. Hugo 2 leaps ahead in cleanliness or clarity, and detail.

Sometimes I find it hard to describe the difference between Mojo and Hugo 2. However I find Hugo 2 way better. For me there is nothing that the Mojo does even close to Hugo 2.

That's no disrespect to Mojo either. My Mojo has been held onto, as back up like if I run my Hugo 2 flat. Or if Hugo 2 ever has to go in for repairs. Plus I just play Mojo sometimes, because I still love it. Impossible to part with Mojo. Plus I still might get a Poly one day.

Interesting to hear you like M15 over the Mojo though. Am surprised. I got impressions that M11 was close to Mojo, but Mojo still just won out. Or that might have been the M11 Pro; I think it was the Pro.

 

[GreenBow]

Please is there an impression that playing from SD card is superior audio quality over DAP to Hugo 2.

I can't imagine there being a huge upgrade if there is an upgrade in sound. Am interested to know if people find H2Go better, and much if at all.

 

[miketlse]

Cross posting in relevant threads. SO I just got the Hugo 2 and 2GO. This is a brief review of the H2G) and comparison with FIIO M15 and Mojopoly with LCD4Z... this review is about sound quality only... iI am still getting connectivity issues with Roon on the 2GO in different rooms.

OK

I have never heard a hugo2 before so my 1st experience is with the 2go attached.

I have LCD4Z.

I had been using FIIOM15 for last few weeks balanced. My Mojopoly collecting dust. I thought I'd write something immediately based on 1st impression... may make a youtube vid.
1st. My experience has now confirmed that there are MANY on headfi that are entirely full of SH!T... ALSO synergy is important. I know that AUdeze tuned the 4Z with a hugo 2 so maybe this pairing has some magic.

SO

1st... Hugo 2 is smaller than i expected in person... it looks bigger in pictures... while bigger than a typical DAP its size is manageable.

2nd... FIIO M15 is a wonderful step up from Mojopoly balanced... it drives the LCD 4z quite nicely... Id say a 10% bump over poly.. air.. dynamics etc.

I also read some dude saying the Hugo 2go was like a little slice of Dave... and I was thinking "BS!"

well here it is..

The H2GO destroys the FIIO M15 with the LCD 4Z... dynamics... air everything... maybe this pairing is something special and would not work with every HP. But it is shocking how much better... we are talking at least a 40% bump over Mojo Poly and 30% over Fiio M15... not having heard the SP2000 or IBasso DX220 MAX... I really can't see either of these being close.... this thing is a freaking knockout... and i have been a critic of Chord.... now if they get their game together on the connectivity and SW issues they are the kings. YES this is like a slice of TT2/Mscaler (i have one) in your hand.

I too initially found H2 a big upgrade to Mojo, and based on that proceeded to use H2 exclusively for a few weeks.
I then tried using Mojo again, but now thought it sounded slightly 'congested' compared to the H2, so I put the Mojo on the shelf for a while.
A few months later I tried using the Mojo again, and this time the 'congestion' had gone, and Mojo was again enjoyable to listen to.
Nowadays I quite happily use the Mojo as a backup to my H2, or as part of Mojopoly when sitting drinking wine in the garden.

What I have tried to say is that how one feels about the H2/Mojo comparison, may not be set in stone, and can vary slightly as time goes by, and the ears/brain get used to the different levels of musical information they both provide.
Anyway enjoy your H2Go, and hopefully you will not experience any serious issues.

 

[ubs28]

To be honest, when I was looking at buying a DAP, I was totally unimpressed with them due to:
1. Garbage OS which gets totally destroyed by my much cheaper iPhone.
2. Barely sounded better than my iPhone
3. DAP are also quite weak. Most of them cannot drive full sized headphones properly while charging $3000+
4. It just didn’t feel like a premium product. Maybe it was because of the garbage OS that is was running. (maybe things have improved in 2020 however)

I imagined smartphones would kill off DAP’s at some point as the audio quality improved every year. But then somehow Apple decided to kill off their DAP capabilities when they removed the headphone jack which kinda saved the DAP industry.

 

[Skeith]

Hello everyone... I just bought 2go.

My headphone is HD 800 S.

After listening it 3 days I make conclusion that DLNA app make big difference in sound quality output to Hugo2go.

This is my app preference for sound quality for Hugo2go:

1. AK Connect: black background, highly resolving, neutral bass, mid, treble, good soundstage and layering, good dynamics, very good clarity.

2. MediaMonkey: worse black background than AK connect, more bass and treble than AK connect, very good dynamics, decent soundstage, good clarity.

3. Hi-Fi Cast: black background, good clarity, worse dynamics, sound not as full as AK and MM, thinner mid, tight bass, airy soundstage.

4. mconnect: worse black background, worse clarity, medium soundstage, decent dynamics, sound little harsh and bright.

4. mconnect Lite: worse clarity from mconnect, but I like the soundstage better.

5. Bubble UPnP: sound mellow, decent black background, lacks dynamics, decent soundstage.

So... Anyone have DLNA app recommendation that sound best for Hugo2go ???

Thanks...

 

[NYanakiev]

Network issues seem to the problem with my 2go but not to the extent where I'm tearing my hair out.
Yesterday, listening to the h2go from its usual place on my desk-- line of sight to the router 15 steps away - 24/192 file, the dropouts started again and track skipping as well. Checked roon and some of the tracks were plain old 16/44.
Then realised my phone was doing a 3gb sacd download @ 1mbps simultaneously over the same network as the h2go. Proceeded to pause the download, the skipping and dropouts stopped. Restarted the download and the problem started again. Repeated a few times with the same results.
Bandwidth problem? Its a deco m9 plus mesh system and shouldn't technically be the culprit. Also my phone is a Samsung note 9 and should be on the 5ghz band whereas thd 2go uses the 2.4ghz. Though maybe not top of the line, the router is pretty much one of the newer crop of routers out there. I've also given the 2go priority in the deco app.
@NYanakiev, could you please share your router details and set up?

Sure. I have this bad boy:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-RT-AX88U-Wireless-AX6000-AiMesh-Gigabit-AiProtection/dp/B07JHFWZKN

I have a fairly standard 2.4ghz and a 5ghz network set up. I live in a 2 bedroom flat and can use my Hugo2Go everywhere, including on the balcony. I haven't had a single dropout/Tidal is loading slowly error message in Roon either.

 

[NYanakiev]

Bill,

In can’t comment on 2Go (I have it but cannot use it because I need 2Yu for my Qutest), but I have super high speed fibre broadband and was experiencing persistent wifi drop outs generally and weak connectivity in the bedrooms (reinforced concrete apartment walls in Singapore).

So I first upgraded my modem to router ethernet cables from Cat 5e to Cat 8, which resulted in no more drop outs (for me, YMMV). Standard cables supplied with routers are usually Cat 5e, which is the minimum for modern broadband (100-350Mhz/1000Mbps/unshielded). Cat 8 is 2000Mhz/25-40Gbps/shielded.

Now I know that sounds like overkill for music streaming, but it’s a relatively inexpensive upgrade to eliminate the possibility of ethernet cable density/crosstalk issues, between modem and router, off the list of causes.

I then upgraded my router from a Linksys EA7500 (which is no slouch) to an Asus RT-AX88U Wifi 6 gaming router. Now I have full connectivity strength in all rooms. Again that’s my experience YMMV.

Lol same router as me!

 

[Luvdac]

Sure. I have this bad boy:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-RT-AX88U-Wireless-AX6000-AiMesh-Gigabit-AiProtection/dp/B07JHFWZKN

I have a fairly standard 2.4ghz and a 5ghz network set up. I live in a 2 bedroom flat and can use my Hugo2Go everywhere, including on the balcony. I haven't had a single dropout/Tidal is loading slowly error message in Roon either.

Thanks! I'll look into it, although I will need a mesh system as its a two storied house with concrete walls. I will experiment with keeping the server and 2go connected to the main router, which is a pain since I would have to move the server upstairs. Will do anything to achieve good sound though!

 

[radnor]

I found Hugo 2 to be a considerable upgrade over the Mojo. (I don't have Poly or 2Go yet.)

Sounds with Hugo 2 have much more their own definition within their own space. Mojo leaves sounds having their place the same, but flatter defined front to back and more distorted sounding vs Hugo 2. Hugo 2 leaps ahead in cleanliness or clarity, and detail.

Sometimes I find it hard to describe the difference between Mojo and Hugo 2. However I find Hugo 2 way better. For me there is nothing that the Mojo does even close to Hugo 2.

That's no disrespect to Mojo either. My Mojo has been held onto, as back up like if I run my Hugo 2 flat. Or if Hugo 2 ever has to go in for repairs. Plus I just play Mojo sometimes, because I still love it. Impossible to part with Mojo. Plus I still might get a Poly one day.

Interesting to hear you like M15 over the Mojo though. Am surprised. I got impressions that M11 was close to Mojo, but Mojo still just won out. Or that might have been the M11 Pro; I think it was the Pro.

M15 has over the ear mode that drives high current to HP like Lcd 4z balanced it is better than mojopoly.

 

[mrandery]

Posted the below earlier in the thread but it got lost ..

Anyone help with this?

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Which IOS app are people using to use the built in Tidal/Qobuz facility?

8player does not work - something about "DMR", whch, I gather from an earlier post by Matt Bartlett, is due to 8player not having the correct license.
Rigelian does not have this facility.
MConnect is flaky and doesn't see my 2go for anything (no DLNA, MPD....)

Any others?

If an app exists to do the above, I'd rather not use the IOS Tidal and Qobuz apps as the only way they'll play to the 2Go is via airplay, or I have to unplug the 2go and use a cable from the phone to the Hugo 2

 

[tunes]

Posted the below earlier in the thread but it got lost ..

Anyone help with this?

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Which IOS app are people using to use the built in Tidal/Qobuz facility?

8player does not work - something about "DMR", whch, I gather from an earlier post by Matt Bartlett, is due to 8player not having the correct license.
Rigelian does not have this facility.
MConnect is flaky and doesn't see my 2go for anything (no DLNA, MPD....)

Any others?

If an app exists to do the above, I'd rather not use the IOS Tidal and Qobuz apps as the only way they'll play to the 2Go is via airplay, or I have to unplug the 2go and use a cable from the phone to the Hugo 2

So are you saying that Qobuz cannot be used with 2Go directly? How do you connect iPhone directly to HUGO2 to use Qobuz and what soft ware to run Qobuz?

 

[Skeith]

After some listening... I found Neutron sounded best on Hugo2go... Even better than AK Connect...

The sound quality is just marvelous with deep black background...

The dynamic range, transparency, and soundstage is really spectacular...

You must try it guys...