[crabdog]

I currently have Tennmak Pro, ZS5 , Xiaomi Pro HD , MEMT X5.

What is the next price band for value for money chi-fis ? Should I be jumping to K3 HD ? Is there anything that is 95% of Magaosi but with a better price ?

The Veedix NC50 and Whizzer A15 are excellent value, both around $50-60

 

[Vidal]

Unless you like warm and bassy the QKZ DM9 are probably ones to avoid, will also have review of QKZ X10 - reviews 141 and 142 will be up this morning.

 

[Saoshyant]

Hmm, might have to give the new X5 a try. Did not like the X3 at all as it cut me, plus obviously had other QC issues.

 

[smy1]

Just ordered the zs5 with the silver cable and the pinnacle px. Does anybody have the p1 and the zs5 and can compare?

Going to listen to the zs5 while i wait for the px to come

 

[HungryPanda]

Just received a pair of QKZ DM6 and cannot believe how good they are for $6:90 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-.../2046242550.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.TWco7g

 

[HiFiChris]

Does anybody have the p1 and the zs5 and can compare?

I do - what do you want to know?

In terms of technical performance, the P1 is ahead. Sound signature-wise, the ZS5 has got the stronger sub-bass, leaner lower midrange/fundamental range, brighter upper midrange, more relaxed 5 kHz range and brighter treble past 10 kHz whereas the MEE is more forward between 8 and 10 kHz.
The ZS5 is more efficient (needs less voltage for the same volume); the P1 has got the larger soundstage.

Imo, the Pinnacle PX, priced around 100-something-ish, is a nice deal (I don't find it worth the full $200, sound quality-wise).

 

[Vidal]

Just received a pair of QKZ DM6 and cannot believe how good they are for $6:90 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-.../2046242550.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.TWco7g

They look a lot like the KZ EDSE, are they open backed as the expanded diagram seems to indicate that?

 

[HungryPanda]

Yes they are open backed but do not leak sound

 

[Vidal]

The QKZ KD1s have turned up, they don't sound too bad but I'm a little puzzled with the twisty nozzle thing. According to the listing the big hole should be more bass but it seems to be opposite on my set with the smaller hole giving more bass - the change is subtle. As for the filters not sure what these do yet.

Early days, I've only just had a quick blast with them since getting back from Leeds.

 

[Vidal]

Yes they are open backed but do not leak sound

The EDSE had a grille but they didn't have an opening if you shone a light on the back you could see the closed metal underneath.

 

[HungryPanda]

Yes I just did that and it looks like there is metal just behind the grille

 

[Lurk650]

I do - what do you want to know?

In terms of technical performance, the P1 is ahead. Sound signature-wise, the ZS5 has got the stronger sub-bass, leaner lower midrange/fundamental range, brighter upper midrange, more relaxed 5 kHz range and brighter treble past 10 kHz whereas the MEE is more forward between 8 and 10 kHz.
The ZS5 is more efficient (needs less voltage for the same volume); the P1 has got the larger soundstage.

Imo, the Pinnacle PX, priced around 100-something-ish, is a nice deal (I don't find it worth the full $200, sound quality-wise).

Interesting since they were being touted on MD as being as good as the P1. Knew it would be too good to be true, wasn't gonna pick them up anyways though

 

[Slater]

Just received a pair of QKZ DM6 and cannot believe how good they are for $6:90 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-.../2046242550.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.TWco7g

That looks exactly like a rebranded KZ EDSE (or EDR1), which are identical looking except for the location of the bottom vent hole. The sound, however, if different, with the EDR1 being superior to the EDSE.

I wonder which one KZ used for the DM6?

 

[Slater]

Yes they are open backed but do not leak sound

Nah, that grille is for show only. It has a completely solid back. The fake grille pulls off easily if you want to check it out for yourself.

I did however MOD a pair to MAKE them totally open-backed. I wish they already came that way from KZ, because they sound amazing when opened vs stock.

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/k...essions-thread.698148/page-1108#post-13353620

 

[smy1]

I do - what do you want to know?

In terms of technical performance, the P1 is ahead. Sound signature-wise, the ZS5 has got the stronger sub-bass, leaner lower midrange/fundamental range, brighter upper midrange, more relaxed 5 kHz range and brighter treble past 10 kHz whereas the MEE is more forward between 8 and 10 kHz.
The ZS5 is more efficient (needs less voltage for the same volume); the P1 has got the larger soundstage.

Imo, the Pinnacle PX, priced around 100-something-ish, is a nice deal (I don't find it worth the full $200, sound quality-wise).

So the Zs5 has little better mid range then the px?