CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
May 2, 2021 at 2:09 PM Post #27,826 of 31,868
Yes, for now, I feel I'm very saturated with the offerings in the sub $50 bracket and I've figured out what my preferences are. As my current collection gives me great diversity. Maybe in future I'd get something in this realm which is exciting and path breaking. Also, as you mentioned, at times it is necessary to move forward, I think this is a good time to step-up and see what the Western 'budget-fi' has in store for me.

Thanks for the recos, but I'd like try a planar and probably an EST if it ever trickles down to this price range apart from Tape. Starsea is the one with tuning switches right? I have them in my radar as well.
FIY, the Tape does NOT use an EST. It uses a magnetostatic driver + dd.

If you want a sonion EST (technically only an electret, not an electrostat either) you will probably need to wait for a few more years. As the cheapest iem with them right now is the Dunu EST112.
 
May 2, 2021 at 2:16 PM Post #27,827 of 31,868
FIY, the Tape does NOT use an EST. It uses a magnetostatic driver + dd.

If you want a sonion EST (technically only an electret, not an electrostat either) you will probably need to wait for a few more years. As the cheapest iem with them right now is the Dunu EST112.
Ahh I didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying it for me. Because the product description clearly states that it has a low voltage electrostatic driver. Yeah, I know but never say never in Chi-fi land. 😉 For all you know, KZ might launch one out of the blue for $100 😂 in a few months
 
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May 2, 2021 at 2:22 PM Post #27,828 of 31,868
Ahh I didn't know that. Thanks for clarifying jt for me. Because the product description clearly states that it has a low voltage electrostatic driver. Yeah, I know but never say never in Chi-fi land. 😉 For all you know, KZ might launch one out of the blue for $100 😂 in a few months
Shuoer is using false marketing on their stuff so...

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source: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-world-s-first-magneto-static-earphone-hpsd-e70#/
 
May 2, 2021 at 2:34 PM Post #27,829 of 31,868
URBANFUN YBF-ISS014, I think one of the best sub $100, I hope someone can compare Aria to this.
 
May 2, 2021 at 2:36 PM Post #27,830 of 31,868
Might as well get a Moondrop Aria at that point.

I still can’t fathom for the 100 hours burn in.
Anyone can provide the graph out of the box vs post burn in for Aria?

also graph after removing filters and each filters usage.
 
May 2, 2021 at 3:07 PM Post #27,831 of 31,868
Ahh, I see. Thanks for this. It is indeed misleading on their part and fooling consumers. Something that'd make me stay away from them for good.
URBANFUN YBF-ISS014, I think one of the best sub $100, I hope someone can compare Aria to this.
That horrendous QC and driver change is not worth the effort anymore. The beryllium drivers aren't available and that noble metal is no different than a random DD found in some cheapo $10 IEM.
 
May 2, 2021 at 8:56 PM Post #27,832 of 31,868
I still can’t fathom for the 100 hours burn in.
Anyone can provide the graph out of the box vs post burn in for Aria?

also graph after removing filters and each filters usage.
Make sense, KBear even discontinued Believe.

I have two beryllium driver IEM, Believe and Periodic Audio BE.
Both are spectacular after burn in, and can take amping like a champ with very minimal distortion.
They do need high powered amp though; otherwise sounds like junk.
 
May 2, 2021 at 8:58 PM Post #27,833 of 31,868
Beside Urbanfun and Shuoer which other companies did false marketing?

We need to inform people
 
May 3, 2021 at 12:10 AM Post #27,834 of 31,868
I miss the not so long ago good old days where Xiaomi made the Xiaomi Pistons by 1more with beryllium DD's back in 2014. I have both the original gold Xiaomi Pistons and the flagship white gold version. Remind you, the Silver Pistons "WERE NOT" beryllium DD's at the time, but titanium versions. Now, the sound of the original and flagship version was epic and still sounds very competitive today even if they had nondetachable cables at the time. That's what makes beryllium so special, IMHO!

Enjoy my PIC's! :yum: ...White Gold flagship version is in the box!

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-Clear
 
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May 3, 2021 at 1:13 AM Post #27,835 of 31,868
I miss the not so long ago good old days where Xiaomi made the Xiaomi Pistons by 1more with beryllium DD's back in 2014. I have both the original gold Xiaomi Pistons and the flagship white gold version. Remind you, the Silver Pistons "WERE NOT" beryllium DD's at the time, but titanium versions. Now, the sound of the original and flagship version was epic and still sounds very competitive today even if they had nondetachable cables at the time. That's what makes beryllium so special, IMHO!

Enjoy my PIC's! :yum: ...White Gold version is in the box!

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-Clear
Beryllium DD is unmatched IMO

I have both Believe and Periodic Audio Be. They both are the best single DD IEM I have
 
May 3, 2021 at 1:22 AM Post #27,836 of 31,868
FIY, the Tape does NOT use an EST. It uses a magnetostatic driver + dd.

If you want a sonion EST (technically only an electret, not an electrostat either) you will probably need to wait for a few more years. As the cheapest iem with them right now is the Dunu EST112.
Actually Tri just came out with 2EST+2BA Starshine with $450 vs DUNU’s $490
Although, my recommendation for EST will be more experienced firm, Thieaudio. They just came out Oracle/Excalibur pair(520-530usd). Thieaudio knows how to make Sonion EST performing what they supposed to
 
May 3, 2021 at 1:24 AM Post #27,837 of 31,868
May 3, 2021 at 1:25 AM Post #27,838 of 31,868
Actually Tri just came out with 2EST+2BA Starshine with $450 vs DUNU’s $490
Although, my recommendation for EST will be more experienced firm, Thieaudio. They just came out Oracle/Excalibur pair(520-530usd). Thieaudio knows how to make Sonion EST performing what they supposed to
I am waiting for the review for Starshine. KBear has been hitting the right buttons so far.

i might resell my LZ for Starshine
 
May 3, 2021 at 1:28 AM Post #27,839 of 31,868
I am waiting for the review for Starshine. KBear has been hitting the right buttons so far.

i might resell my LZ for Starshine
Yup, KBEAR/Tri is coming up to ky radar after I was amazed by their tuning for Lark. Waiting Starsea and Believe, and I’m pretty sure I won’t be disappointed.
 
May 3, 2021 at 1:32 AM Post #27,840 of 31,868
Beside Urbanfun and Shuoer which other companies did false marketing?

We need to inform people
QKZ. Well they usually title “4DD IEM” as it 2DD per side and it’s intentional misleading/eye-catching. They also claimed 2DD as there is only one diaphragm, only because it’s dual-cavity they called it 2DD. Another false marketing. Anyway that QKZ only sells sub$20 segments so no big concerns though.
 

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