[Slater]

CCA C10 Pro has gone on pre-sale at their official AE store. Roughly 40 USD.

I wonder what’s different about it, other than the faceplate?

The original C10 was darn near perfect; I hope they didn’t mess with the special sauce recipe too much!

 

[seanwee]

someone on the WF-1000XM3 thread here said he can have about 70-80% of the IER-1ZR sound from the XM3.. i haven't heard the 1ZR myself, but i did heard the M7 and M9, and some other "kilobuck" IEMs, so i can believe what he claim to be reasonably true

I own the WF-1000XM3 and having demoed the IER-Z1R extensively I can say the WF is quite far from the IER-Z1R SQ wise. Think budget vs flagship far.

 

[brsdrgn]

I wonder what’s different about it, other than the faceplate?

The original C10 was darn near perfect; I hope they didn’t mess with the special sauce recipe too much!

Same BA drivers again (50060,30095)but they didn't mention what driver they used for 'customized medium and high frequency' .

30095 is again at the end of that nozzle. I guess that's the formula that the engineers found. Give less power, locate it very close not to involve with other frequencies and take more resolution without sibilance.

I asked KZ what was about that second hole in their design quite long time ago and they answered the same. Now I see that is in the illustrations also.

And it also looks like we have a new DD?

I was wondering why not to locate drivers a bit back to achieve better soundstage especially one BA driver's path is ending right in front of the DD. I'm not an expert but I'd appreciate if smb share some details here. I might be wrong.

 

[chinmie]

I own the WF-1000XM3 and having demoed the IER-Z1R extensively I can say the WF is quite far from the IER-Z1R SQ wise. Think budget vs flagship far.

if you're talking about SQ "grain" sound, between them both, I'd agree with you (again, i haven't heard the Z1R personally).

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/off...-true-wireless-earphones.911305/post-15124501

i think he only referring to sound signature and feel, which is good enough, seeing if using the Z1R in the noisy environment that the XM3 is usually being used, that whole fine grain of the Z1R would be hard to hear too.

with clear bass cut on the XM3, i like them so much for mobile use that i bought two of them

 

[seanwee]

if you're talking about SQ "grain" sound, between them both, I'd agree with you (again, i haven't heard the Z1R personally).

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/off...-true-wireless-earphones.911305/post-15124501

i think he only referring to sound signature and feel, which is good enough, seeing if using the Z1R in the noisy environment that the XM3 is usually being used, that whole fine grain of the Z1R would be hard to hear too.

with clear bass cut on the XM3, i like them so much for mobile use that i bought two of them

Even then the difference should be very very clear cut between the two of them. Only possible similarity I can think of is that both of them are behemoths in terms of size.

I'd say the Z1R is a bassier, colder and more aggressive IER M9 with wider sound stage. The WF is warmer, with much more bass bleed and bloat, and generally a few tiers down in technicality compared to the IER M9.

 

[PhonoPhi]

I wonder what’s different about it, other than the faceplate?

The original C10 was darn near perfect; I hope they didn’t mess with the special sauce recipe too much!

C10 are quire treble shy.
Makes them lovely in some sense, but I personally do miss the treble.

The same are BQEYZ K2 (I got them from that Amazon deal and you were spot one with the polarity problem, thank you!), they are very un-KZ in treble tuning - sound nice but after AS16 and A10, what is missed is obvious.

With my C10 pro order, I could not help ordering a second pair of A10 at those sale prices (thank you, treble police).

A10 are amazing to me, especially with some plucked steel strings of konghou, guqin and pipa.
Surely, those high overones are overemphasized and partially distorted, and do not work universally (most electronic music is hard to bear) but it can sound amazing!

 

[assassin10000]

Can anyone recommend me a harman neutral iem under 50 bucks? I was looking at the Moondrop Crescent and it seems perfect but the problem is you can't buy it anymore.

Are there any alternatives?

If you are looking for something budget to try out a harman like signature, maybe the sony mh755 or mh750?

 

[seanwee]

If you are looking for something budget to try a harman like signature out the sony mh755 or mh750 maybe?

Thanks, will check it out

 

[fonkepala]

Thanks, will check it out

Just be aware of (the literal sea) of fakes.

 

[gooeyrich]

Can anyone recommend me a harman neutral iem under 50 bucks? I was looking at the Moondrop Crescent and it seems perfect but the problem is you can't buy it anymore.

Are there any alternatives?

Not under 50 but close enough (silver) https://www.harmanaudio.com/akg/AKG+N30.html?dwvar_AKG N30_color=Black-GLOBAL-Current&cgid=akg

 

[seanwee]

Just be aware of (the literal sea) of fakes.

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of 1-2 dollar ones.

I have local seller that is selling for 10 dollars that seems to be the most trustable one. What is the normal price for an original one?

 

[seanwee]

Not under 50 but close enough (silver) https://www.harmanaudio.com/akg/AKG+N30.html?dwvar_AKG N30_color=Black-GLOBAL-Current&cgid=akg

How the heck does a colour change drop the price from $299 to $59.99 XD

Shows how much they overprice it.

 

[fonkepala]

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of 1-2 dollar ones.

I have local seller that is selling for 10 dollars that seems to be the most trustable one. What is the normal price for an original one?

I'm not 100% certain of the normal going price. Others might be able to chime in. FWIW, a pair of MH755 that is most likely to be authentic from a trusted seller on a local shopping site sells for the equivalent of ~USD$5.

 

[Slater]

Yeah I'm seeing a lot of 1-2 dollar ones.

I have local seller that is selling for 10 dollars that seems to be the most trustable one. What is the normal price for an original one?

Where are you located?

 

[seanwee]

Where are you located?

Malaysia

The store im looking at has a lot of sellers from china though.