Chaintech AV-710 Setup Thread, Including True 44.1kHz Wolfson Output in XP

[Guest5]

I just found a pretty good deal on a ESI Juli@... the problem is(well at first it seems a problem alright) it has the same chip Envy24, will it work flawlessly with Chaintech Av710 in my computer, so that I could use them both(not at the same time of course)? Chaintech will be used with a hp amp+ AKG 240, the ESI Juli@ with a set of good Hi-Fi speakers+amp.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by Guest5 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I just found a pretty good deal on a ESI Juli@... the problem is(well at first it seems a problem alright) it has the same chip Envy24, will it work flawlessly with Chaintech Av710 in my computer, so that I could use them both(not at the same time of course)? Chaintech will be used with a hp amp+ AKG 240, the ESI Juli@ with a set of good Hi-Fi speakers+amp.

It may not work if you use the same drivers, but it might if the ESI Juli@ has a different set. The only way to know for sure is to try them in your system and see. I'm using an E-MU 1212M and an 0404 USB at the same time on this computer without issues. Windows should have no problem addressing the cards separately as long as the drivers don't get in the way.

 

[Guest5]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif It may not work if you use the same drivers, but it might if the ESI Juli@ has a different set. The only way to know for sure is to try them in your system and see. I'm using an E-MU 1212M and an 0404 USB at the same time on this computer without issues. Windows should have no problem addressing the cards separately as long as the drivers don't get in the way.

Yes, it will work hopefully. I will report back when I get it though.

 

[Guest5]

Hi. I got myself a brand new 0404 PCI instead of the Juli@ and I'm very happy with it I must say and although I've never heard the Juli@ some people report that the newer versions/revisions of Juli@s sound not as good as the latest revision of 0404 PCI on AKM4395 DAC which I have BTW. All I can say is that it sounds significantly more open and natural than AV-710's Wolfson DAC, with good recordings it is very evident. So yeah... I'm happy, the drivers are not very complicated like many say too.

 

[Saulous]

HELLO ALL! With Vista 64bit you can get bit perfect 44k 16bit output both Wolfson black analog out and spdif when using xp64 newest drivers with 2-ch output with Vista 64bit drivers audio deck, and you don't have to re-enable output after S3 resume like when using 96k 24bit using Vista newest drivers with Vista 64bit drivers audio deck. BUT I don't know about the quality as with the test tone "UDIAL.APE" the end of the signal is not totally clean (don't find the correct word for this) and none resampling done with Foobar/Winamp affects to this. BUT it is 44K and it works after S3 so right now as I am not buying a new sound card I will use this. Would have used the 96/24bit with clean udial and great sq (I have not listened much with this 44k setup, using Genelec 8020 pair and Senn hd650 with CMoy) but that S3 resume bug was awful, this is better now. The spdif udial is clean, though.

 

[finallygreen]

Hello,

If I have this card installed in WinXP and plan to use the S/PDIF output, is there any reason to use anything other than the current (5.40a) driver? I've read several pages of this thread, and unless I'm mistaken, the benefits described here don't really apply to the S/PDIF jack....but I thought I'd ask just to be safe

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by finallygreen /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hello, If I have this card installed in WinXP and plan to use the S/PDIF output, is there any reason to use anything other than the current (5.40a) driver? I've read several pages of this thread, and unless I'm mistaken, the benefits described here don't really apply to the S/PDIF jack....but I thought I'd ask just to be safe

No, the current drivers should be fine. But if you want even more functionality for the digital output, consider flashing the card with Audiotrak Prodigy firmware. I haven't tried it but it's detailed in a few threads in this sub-forum.

 

[Hazaro]

InfiniteSymphony I'd just like to thank you again for your help.

I signed on a few months back and read your PM's for guidance since my little AV-710 had to be reinstalled.

 

[MrKazador]

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Originally Posted by finallygreen /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hello, If I have this card installed in WinXP and plan to use the S/PDIF output, is there any reason to use anything other than the current (5.40a) driver? I've read several pages of this thread, and unless I'm mistaken, the benefits described here don't really apply to the S/PDIF jack....but I thought I'd ask just to be safe

I use 4.73b drivers and can get bit-perfect output through SPDIF with WinXP. Why update when it works perfectly fine

 

[decayed.cell]

Okay I managed to get the Wolfson doing 48Khz on Windows 7 without installing Envy Driver

I installed ASIO4All, and used the following settings.



The trick is to put the Windows Audio Deck into 5.1 Mode, it maps the Wolfson out to Side Left and Side Right.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by decayed.cell /img/forum/go_quote.gif Okay I managed to get the Wolfson doing 48Khz on Windows 7 without installing Envy Driver

Do you mean 44.1 kHz? Otherwise most audio will be resampled.

 

[decayed.cell]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif Do you mean 44.1 kHz? Otherwise most audio will be resampled.

I couldn't get it to work with 44.1Khz because the Windows Deck doesn't let you choose it as an option. The lowest is 16-Bit 48000Hz

EDIT: Hmm I've now disabled the PPHS resampler I think that I had going, and also the 44.1 to 48Khz box in the ASIO configuration panel. I guess its 44.1 now? lol

 

[oc613]

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[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by Saulous /img/forum/go_quote.gif HELLO ALL! With Vista 64bit you can get bit perfect 44k 16bit output both Wolfson black analog out and spdif when using xp64 newest drivers with 2-ch output with Vista 64bit drivers audio deck, and you don't have to re-enable output after S3 resume like when using 96k 24bit using Vista newest drivers with Vista 64bit drivers audio deck. BUT I don't know about the quality as with the test tone "UDIAL.APE" the end of the signal is not totally clean (don't find the correct word for this) and none resampling done with Foobar/Winamp affects to this. BUT it is 44K and it works after S3 so right now as I am not buying a new sound card I will use this. Would have used the 96/24bit with clean udial and great sq (I have not listened much with this 44k setup, using Genelec 8020 pair and Senn hd650 with CMoy) but that S3 resume bug was awful, this is better now. The spdif udial is clean, though.

I must have missed this the first time around. Can you use Foobar + Kernel Streaming to play back 44.1 kHz material?

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Originally Posted by oc613 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'd like to get bit perfect working in vista, but I don't quite understand your post. Which drivers should I be using on Vista 64 to achieve this with my av710? Do you have a link? Thanks.

His post says to use the latest AV-710 drivers for XP 64-bit, which are here: AV-710 XP 64-bit 4.60b drivers.

 

[oc613]

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