Chaintech AV-710 Setup Thread, Including True 44.1kHz Wolfson Output in XP

[Joshatdot]

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Originally Posted by Chingyul /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah, I was gonna buy a new one........but they seem to be discontinued.

I know...I want to get another for backup.

 

[Joshatdot]

OMG! I found a site that sells the AV710 for the old cheep price!

$26.00
MEMORYEXPOUSA

av710 OR "av-710" OR "av 710" - Google Product Search

I gots me one, JIC I need a backup. *edit* maybe they are not a good place

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by Joshatdot /img/forum/go_quote.gif OMG! I found a site that sells the AV710 for the old cheep price! $26.00 MEMORYEXPOUSA

Might want to check the Reseller Rating of MemoryExpo.

 

[Joshatdot]

The next day I got an email saying they were out of stock, and they canceled my order.

 

[phyrefly]

I found a used AV-710. Wow... what a difference it makes compared to ALC888 or my old SB Live!!!!

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by phyrefly /img/forum/go_quote.gif I found a used AV-710. Wow... what a difference it makes compared to ALC888 or my old SB Live!!!!

Yep! It's too bad they no longer seem to be available new... There's really nothing to replace them at the under $30 price point yet.

 

[wangerin]

Quick bump, thread helped alot.

I beleive "Mad Dog" re-labeled the AV-710, can anyone confirm?

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by wangerin /img/forum/go_quote.gif I beleive "Mad Dog" re-labeled the AV-710, can anyone confirm?

Not exactly... The two cards have different designs, but the most important parts seem to be the same. They both use the Envy 24HT-S chipset, VT1616 DACs for most channels, and the Wolfson WM8728 for one set of channels. However, the Mad Dog Multimedia Entertainer 7.1 has an extra optical jack (S/PDIF In), and a different output layout.

Technically, since they both use the same drivers, it should work. Someone give it a try.

Chaintech AV-710

Mad Dog Multimedia Entertainer 7.1

 

[Bonzi]

Are you using KS and PPHS 44.1Khz on "ultra" mode, or just PPHS(without "ultra")? I mean doesn't "ultra" spoil the transparency of 44.1Khz genuine recordings?

On the chaintech av-710, I purchased it for $15, it was used. I was very happy and still am, it works fine with 4.73b in XP and 5.20b in Vista.

 

[Bonzi]

By the way I am using the onboard audio(Realtek HD 880) along with av-710 because chaintech av-710+KS=no sound in windows environment. So.. I started using onboard sound coupled with some Altec Lansing 2100 speaker and it is pretty good actually- for a mobo at $70 pricetag. The Realtek has no middle and so on, but it's not as bad as I thought would be. I even tried it with winamp 2.95+KS, Fb2k+KS and it works great, the 44.1Khz mode is the best. Strangely ALC880 plays simultaniously the windows environment and KS+winamp, Fb2K+KS. Chainetch av-710 cannot do it.

 

[dantztiludrop]

This is very cool...thanks infinitesymphony so much for writing a set-up guide like this, especially for members of an older generation that are digitally-impaired(READ: ME). I just bought the AV-710 used last night on ebay & already knew that I'd have to start researching how to get the most out of it when it arrives. Woke up this a.m. to find this right @ the top of this forum. I've bookmarked it, but I have the feeling I'll be back here next week with some questions. Thanks again.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by Bonzi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Are you using KS and PPHS 44.1Khz on "ultra" mode, or just PPHS(without "ultra")? I mean doesn't "ultra" spoil the transparency of 44.1Khz genuine recordings?

There's no reason to use a resampler like PPHS at 44.1 kHz; any software resampling will affect transparency.

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Originally Posted by Bonzi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Strangely ALC880 plays simultaniously the windows environment and KS+winamp, Fb2K+KS. Chainetch av-710 cannot do it.

The ability to play back both KS and DS at the same time varies from one sound card to another. For example, the E-MU 1212M can play back ASIO, KS, and DS at the same time, while the 0404 USB is limited to either ASIO/KS or DS. It's a known limitation of the AV-710.

 

[Bonzi]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif There's no reason to use a resampler like PPHS at 44.1 kHz; any software resampling will affect transparency.

I'm talking about particular case here, there is no way you can use Fb2k+KS+AV-710 without the resampler. Or is there?

EDIT: Yes! for the first time I threw away the resampler and it worked.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by Bonzi /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm talking about particular case here, there is no way you can use Fb2k+KS+AV-710 without the resampler. Or is there?

Yes, KS will work as long as the sound card knows what to expect. I just meant that there's no reason to use the resampler to "resample" from 44.1 kHz to 44.1 kHz.

In Vista, you'll want to use the resampler to upsample the output to 96 kHz. If you output 44.1 kHz from foobar2000, Vista will perform the upsampling itself. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Bonzi]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yes, KS will work as long as the sound card knows what to expect. I just meant that there's no reason to use the resampler to "resample" from 44.1 kHz to 44.1 kHz. In Vista, you'll want to use the resampler to upsample the output to 96 kHz. If you output 44.1 kHz from foobar2000, Vista will perform the upsampling itself. Sorry for the confusion.

thanks, I got it. Infact I also got Vista Home Basic and using 5.20b and 44.1 with S/PDIF enabled gives good playback. Vista, in my opinion, doesn't upsample anything because in Control Panel 2CH with S/PDIF PCM Only enabled@44100 it figures as 16bit 44100Hz, or you can choose 24bit 44100Hz in the last instance(exactly card's settings). I mean you cannot go 48000hz or 96000Hz from there, these settings are simply absent.
Although chaintech card doesn't sound nearly as good(natural) as my little old D-777 Sony CDplayer, for AudioCD I never use chaintech.