Chaintech AV-710 Setup Thread, Including True 44.1kHz Wolfson Output in XP

[Joshatdot]

dang..the Mad Dog's are back ordered or out of stock pretty much every store i found on Froogle

 

[peticsu]

is it normal to have a really loud screeching noise come on when Windows loads? It doesnt happen every load but lets say 1/20 it does it...
Im finding that the majority of the time I come out of Hibernate the sounds quality goes completely s*** or that the KS driver doesnt want to work...

Its so frustrating that I have to reset my computer almost every time I come out of Hibernate...

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by peticsu /img/forum/go_quote.gif is it normal to have a really loud screeching noise come on when Windows loads? It doesnt happen every load but lets say 1/20 it does it... Im finding that the majority of the time I come out of Hibernate the sounds quality goes completely s*** or that the KS driver doesnt want to work... Its so frustrating that I have to reset my computer almost every time I come out of Hibernate...

No, that's not normal. Also, hibernation / sleep mode is only recommended for laptop users because it's known to be buggy. A better option: set up your power saving features to shut off the screen and hard disks after a certain amount of time.

Which OS and VIA driver release are you using?

 

[peticsu]

Im using XP 32-b, 5.12.1.3647 audio drivers, Foobar v 0.9.5, with the regular KS driver from Foobars website

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by peticsu /img/forum/go_quote.gif 5.12.1.3647 audio drivers

That number is the version of the Audio Deck, not the driver version. In any case, if you're using 4.73b (which is recommended for XP) or 5.20b, there shouldn't be any strange issues.

 

[sabotaged]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif [size=small]Windows XP 64-bit 1. Install the card into a free PCI slot on the motherboard. 2. Plug your amplification device (ex. speakers, receiver, etc.) into the black "Back Surr" jack on the back of the card next to the optical output. [Previous card revision: "Alt. Out"] 3. Download the Envy 24 Family Driver version 4.60b linked here and install it using Setup.exe (Application) in the Setup directory. 4. Once the drivers are installed, open up the Envy control panel using its tray icon on the taskbar. 5. Click 2CH if it's not already selected (not 2CH Hi-Sample Rate). 6. Go into the digital output section and enable S/PDIF output, selecting PCM as the sub-option. Click the Auto button under sampling rate. Done! You'll now be capable of using Kernel Streaming in Foobar to directly send 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz audio content through your sound card's Wolfson DAC. Note: This section is untested and needs confirmation from a user. If this doesn't work or needs revision, please let me know!

I've had my AV-710 for quite some time now, so reading that you could get kernel streaming going without having to use 96 kHz and upsampling was interesting. However, when I try this on my 64-bit XP, it doesn't seem to work.

In the envy control panel, setting the audio output from "hi sample rate" to the regular 2 results in no sound coming from the jack next to the toslink one (ie the wolfson one), regardless of regular or kernel streaming being used.

Isn't this what's supposed to happen? With the regular "2" CH icon engaged, sound comes from the regular VIA jack. The guide implicitly states that sound should be coming from the wolfson jack with the regular 2 icon though.

Has anyone gotten this working on 64-bit XP? I notice that my drivers are slightly newer (5.12.1.3652 vs the recommended 5.12.1.3646). If so, what driver version are you running?

 

[edguetzow]

I don't have 64-bit XP but I did have a problem when my main volume channels in the control panel were not set to max.

Check it. If it is even slightly below max output then you will get NO sound. Push the slider up MAX all the way and try it.

Let us know how it goes!

 

[mrarroyo]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif That number is the version of the Audio Deck, not the driver version. In any case, if you're using 4.73b (which is recommended for XP) or 5.20b, there shouldn't be any strange issues.

How can I find what version I have? Thanks.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by sabotaged /img/forum/go_quote.gif I've had my AV-710 for quite some time now, so reading that you could get kernel streaming going without having to use 96 kHz and upsampling was interesting. However, when I try this on my 64-bit XP, it doesn't seem to work. In the envy control panel, setting the audio output from "hi sample rate" to the regular 2 results in no sound coming from the jack next to the toslink one (ie the wolfson one), regardless of regular or kernel streaming being used. Has anyone gotten this working on 64-bit XP? I notice that my drivers are slightly newer (5.12.1.3652 vs the recommended 5.12.1.3646). If so, what driver version are you running?

Yes, the trick is supposed to give you non-resampled analog output from the Wolfson. Did you enable S/PDIF output with PCM checked as the sub-option?

The version numbers you mentioned are for the Audio Deck application, not the drivers themselves. The guide recommends the newest driver version for XP 64-bit, which is v4.60, but you're the first person who claims to have tested it (thanks, BTW!

). If that driver version doesn't work, you might give one of the older versions a try:

AV-710 on XP64 - v6.10
AV-710 on XP64 - v4.32 beta

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Originally Posted by mrarroyo /img/forum/go_quote.gif How can I find what version I have? Thanks.

There might be a way to look at the properties of the actual driver files you're using, but IIRC, the only way to know for sure is to remember which ones you've installed. Unfortunately, I don't think there's an easy-to-access version number.

 

[sabotaged]

Thanks for the replies. I managed to get it to work: The problem seemed to be the driver version I was using. I installed the 4.60b drivers and now I have 44.1 kHz kernel streaming working in foobar with the wolfson output.

PS: 5.12.1.3646 is actually the driver version of Envy24HF.sys, not the audio deck program, and this slightly older version is working for me. You can find it in device manager by double clicking Envy24 Family Audio Controller and going to driver.

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by sabotaged /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thanks for the replies. I managed to get it to work: The problem seemed to be the driver version I was using. I installed the 4.60b drivers and now I have 44.1 kHz kernel streaming working in foobar with the wolfson output. PS: 5.12.1.3646 is actually the driver version of Envy24HF.sys, not the audio deck program, and this slightly older version is working for me. You can find it in device manager by double clicking Envy24 Family Audio Controller and going to driver.

Ah, gotcha, thanks for the correction. Is that the same version number that shows up in the Audio Deck?

I'm glad to hear that it works! Which driver version were you using before? The 4.60b pack is listed as the most recent driver for XP64 on the VIA Arena site.

 

[sabotaged]

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Originally Posted by infinitesymphony /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ah, gotcha, thanks for the correction. Is that the same version number that shows up in the Audio Deck? I'm glad to hear that it works! Which driver version were you using before? The 4.60b pack is listed as the most recent driver for XP64 on the VIA Arena site.

No, the version that shows up in audio deck is 0.0.1.1

Through a bit of detective work I have found that the driver version I was using was 5.20b. They are available here: VIA Arena - Display Drivers

Something else I found out -- the last two digits of the driver number in device manager is the version via lists on their website.

I had 5.12.1.3652 (version 5.2)
44.1 kHz out seems to only work with 5.12.1.3646 (version 4.6)

You can also check the properties of the Envy24HF.sys file in the driver zips to check the version.

Anyways, nothing new here, that driver version was already recommended in the original post but hopefully this will help anyone who comes looking and are confused about driver versions

 

[infinitesymphony]

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Originally Posted by sabotaged /img/forum/go_quote.gif Through a bit of detective work I have found that the driver version I was using was 5.20b. They are available here: VIA Arena - Display Drivers Something else I found out -- the last two digits of the driver number in device manager is the version via lists on their website. I had 5.12.1.3652 (version 5.2) 44.1 kHz out seems to only work with 5.12.1.3646 (version 4.6) You can also check the properties of the Envy24HF.sys file in the driver zips to check the version.

Thanks again for the info. I'll check it out when I have access to the computer with the AV-710 inside. The drivers you linked to are listed as being for Windows Vista 64-bit instead of XP 64-bit, so that might explain the confusion.

It's good that the 4.60b version is working with the 44.1 kHz trick--I'll give you credit in the first post for making the confirmation. Have you noticed any difference in sound quality versus resampling?

 

[duetta]

New driver (5.30) apparently out as of March 8th. Anybody try it, especially in Vista?

My cards works ok under Vista Basic (using the 5.17 drivers that Vista automatically loads), but I haven't managed to get it to work with a Leadtek Analog TV Tuner DVR application (although it works fine when simply watching TV on the PC). Vista refused to allow the 5.20 drivers to install at all.

 

[infinitesymphony]

Thanks for the update, duetta. Do the 5.30b drivers appear to have the same basic functionality as the other drivers you tried?